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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On 8/16/2014 12:25 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. Don't be so serious. ;-) OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good for a laugh... Comparisons are quite useful for those of us that doesn't know about the other. It doesn't have to do with OS either. While I have been involved with RC flying for many years. I am new to quad copters. So I know about a few of them, I am learning more and more when people compare with the ones I know about to those I don't know about. You can call it quad wars if you like, it is still very useful. :-) -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On 2014-08-16 1:25 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. Don't be so serious. ;-) OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good for a laugh... AmigaOS 4 has a better chance at winning a debate war against Windows than GNU/Linux does. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:49:26 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 1:25 PM, s|b wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. Don't be so serious. ;-) OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good for a laugh... AmigaOS 4 has a better chance at winning a debate war against Windows than GNU/Linux does. Although I'm more likely to be able to do some useful stuff with Linux today than with AmigaOS today. -- Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch) |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. Rod. |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On 8/16/2014 5:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. Really? I have done the same and I found the opposite. Although I am running Ubuntu and Puppy. Why is Mint Cinnamon 17 magic? -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0 Centrino Core2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz - 4GB - Windows XP SP2 |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 5:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. Really? I have done the same and I found the opposite. Although I am running Ubuntu and Puppy. Why is Mint Cinnamon 17 magic? Some people don't like the Unity interface, so they take a gander at the Mint site for an alternative. I still download and do a quick test of Ubuntu, but my UBB flash key has Mint on it. And that's what I boot when I want a non-Windows environment. ******* The people in the Ubuntu group, seem to relish installing alternate desktops using packages, so if you have the time or stomach for it, that's another route. The only thing I don't like about Mint, is the packages aren't as highly polished as a Ubuntu release. I've found things in Mint, that have apparently never been tested. When it comes to distros, you either need a single gifted individual, a jack of all trades, to whip together and QA the thing. An example would be Klaus Knopper. Some of his early distros were amazingly good. Otherwise, you need a small army of individuals good at this or that aspect of building a release. And some distros no longer have the critical mass and hours of work put into it, to make a quality product. And the only way I know of to judge that, is test for yourself, and see. As an example, the first time I installed Gentoo, followed the standard recipe, the whole thing was flawless. I was impressed. Fast forward three years, I try to do a new install, follow the usual recipe, and it was a disaster. All sorts of broken dependencies. No clue as to what to back out to fix it. What does that tell you ? Some sort of QA issue, a loss of staff, or something along those lines. No single install, is a guarantee a "distro is here to stay". You can't expect the people building the distro, to have paying jobs, and invest an extra 8 hours a day, making a distro for you for free. There has to be staff turnover. Paul |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:04:10 -0500, BillW50 wrote:
You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. Really? I have done the same and I found the opposite. Although I am running Ubuntu and Puppy. Why is Mint Cinnamon 17 magic? I wouldn't describe it as magic, but I've found it to install easily and work reliably. Also, I think the design of the interface is such that it would be particularly easy for somebody already familiar with Windows 7 to understand. (Easier than Windows 8, that's for sure). Another point, of lesser importance but possibly indicative of care taken elsewhere in the system, is that Cinnamon is the only one of the Ubuntu family and its derivatives in which the sound effects actually work. This has been my experience with several different computers. Rod. |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On 2014-08-16 5:07 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:49:26 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: On 2014-08-16 1:25 PM, s|b wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. Don't be so serious. ;-) OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good for a laugh... AmigaOS 4 has a better chance at winning a debate war against Windows than GNU/Linux does. Although I'm more likely to be able to do some useful stuff with Linux today than with AmigaOS today. Assuming that you're using one of the Commodore-made Amigas, that's likely to be true. However, the computer still exists (in name) and other companies are releasing hardware with an upgraded version of the AmigaOS based on the code of AmigaOS 3. While I can't imagine them being successful, tell yourself that the OS was able to multitask and do things unimaginable until 1995 on PCs on a 68020 processor running at 7MHz. You would have to assume that the operating system is snappy as hell. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D games. In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D games. In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta. more like a Ford Pinto. Regards Rene |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D games. In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta. You know what they say, "different strokes for different folks". Personally, I would move to Linux in a New York second if it had an Outlook like email program that did HTML the way I like it. -- A |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
Pinto means painting in Spanish, never heard of Ford Pinto model.
"Rene Lamontagne" escreveu na mensagem ... Silver Slimer wrote: On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D games. In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta. more like a Ford Pinto. Regards Rene |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:13:50 +0100, "Homer"
wrote: Pinto means painting in Spanish, I don't speak Spanish, and know only a few words, but I was curious about that. So I looked it up. It means "speckled." There are several web sites that translate it and they all say the same the same thing. |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
Homer wrote:
Pinto means painting in Spanish, never heard of Ford Pinto model. Painting in Spanish is "pintura" The phrase, "I paint" is "pinto". In Ford's case they are referring to a horse: http://www.best-horse-photos.com/images/Pinto_Horse.jpg Ford Pinto: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Ford_Pinto.jpg "Rene Lamontagne" escreveu na mensagem ... Silver Slimer wrote: On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D games. In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta. more like a Ford Pinto. Regards Rene -- A |
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MS 8.1 Update [OT]
On 2014-08-17 12:58 PM, A wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote: On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote: On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote: OS war! -) There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on an i3 with 8GB of RAM. You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly. On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster than Windows. That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D games. In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta. You know what they say, "different strokes for different folks". Personally, I would move to Linux in a New York second if it had an Outlook like email program that did HTML the way I like it. It's called Evolution and it's been a part of GNU/Linux for an incredibly long time. -- Silver Slimer OpenMedia Supporter GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data |
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