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  #61  
Old August 16th 14, 06:52 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On 8/16/2014 12:25 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

OS war! -)


There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost.


Don't be so serious. ;-)

OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or
fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good
for a laugh...


Comparisons are quite useful for those of us that doesn't know about the
other. It doesn't have to do with OS either. While I have been involved
with RC flying for many years. I am new to quad copters. So I know about
a few of them, I am learning more and more when people compare with the
ones I know about to those I don't know about. You can call it quad wars
if you like, it is still very useful. :-)

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  #62  
Old August 16th 14, 09:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Silver Slimer[_7_]
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On 2014-08-16 1:25 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

OS war! -)


There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost.


Don't be so serious. ;-)

OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or
fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good
for a laugh...


AmigaOS 4 has a better chance at winning a debate war against Windows
than GNU/Linux does.

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  #63  
Old August 16th 14, 10:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Gene E. Bloch[_2_]
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:49:26 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2014-08-16 1:25 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

OS war! -)


There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost.


Don't be so serious. ;-)

OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or
fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good
for a laugh...


AmigaOS 4 has a better chance at winning a debate war against Windows
than GNU/Linux does.


Although I'm more likely to be able to do some useful stuff with Linux
today than with AmigaOS today.

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  #64  
Old August 16th 14, 11:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)


There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.

Rod.
  #65  
Old August 17th 14, 12:04 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
BillW50
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On 8/16/2014 5:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)


There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


Really? I have done the same and I found the opposite. Although I am
running Ubuntu and Puppy. Why is Mint Cinnamon 17 magic?

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  #66  
Old August 17th 14, 12:53 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Paul
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

BillW50 wrote:
On 8/16/2014 5:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


Really? I have done the same and I found the opposite. Although I am
running Ubuntu and Puppy. Why is Mint Cinnamon 17 magic?


Some people don't like the Unity interface, so they
take a gander at the Mint site for an alternative.

I still download and do a quick test of Ubuntu, but
my UBB flash key has Mint on it. And that's what I boot
when I want a non-Windows environment.

*******

The people in the Ubuntu group, seem to relish installing
alternate desktops using packages, so if you have the time
or stomach for it, that's another route.

The only thing I don't like about Mint, is the packages
aren't as highly polished as a Ubuntu release. I've found
things in Mint, that have apparently never been tested.

When it comes to distros, you either need a single gifted
individual, a jack of all trades, to whip together and QA
the thing. An example would be Klaus Knopper. Some of his
early distros were amazingly good. Otherwise, you need a
small army of individuals good at this or that aspect of
building a release. And some distros no longer have the
critical mass and hours of work put into it, to make a
quality product. And the only way I know of to judge
that, is test for yourself, and see.

As an example, the first time I installed Gentoo, followed
the standard recipe, the whole thing was flawless. I was
impressed. Fast forward three years, I try to do a new
install, follow the usual recipe, and it was a disaster.
All sorts of broken dependencies. No clue as to what
to back out to fix it. What does that tell you ?
Some sort of QA issue, a loss of staff, or something
along those lines.

No single install, is a guarantee a "distro is here to stay".
You can't expect the people building the distro, to have
paying jobs, and invest an extra 8 hours a day, making
a distro for you for free. There has to be staff turnover.

Paul
  #67  
Old August 17th 14, 03:42 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Roderick Stewart
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 18:04:10 -0500, BillW50 wrote:


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


Really? I have done the same and I found the opposite. Although I am
running Ubuntu and Puppy. Why is Mint Cinnamon 17 magic?


I wouldn't describe it as magic, but I've found it to install easily
and work reliably. Also, I think the design of the interface is such
that it would be particularly easy for somebody already familiar with
Windows 7 to understand. (Easier than Windows 8, that's for sure).

Another point, of lesser importance but possibly indicative of care
taken elsewhere in the system, is that Cinnamon is the only one of the
Ubuntu family and its derivatives in which the sound effects actually
work. This has been my experience with several different computers.

Rod.
  #68  
Old August 17th 14, 03:53 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Silver Slimer[_7_]
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On 2014-08-16 5:07 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 16:49:26 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

On 2014-08-16 1:25 PM, s|b wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost.

Don't be so serious. ;-)

OS war = when users of different operating systems debate (argue or
fight is perhaps a better word) over which OS is "the best". Always good
for a laugh...


AmigaOS 4 has a better chance at winning a debate war against Windows
than GNU/Linux does.


Although I'm more likely to be able to do some useful stuff with Linux
today than with AmigaOS today.


Assuming that you're using one of the Commodore-made Amigas, that's
likely to be true. However, the computer still exists (in name) and
other companies are releasing hardware with an upgraded version of the
AmigaOS based on the code of AmigaOS 3.

While I can't imagine them being successful, tell yourself that the OS
was able to multitask and do things unimaginable until 1995 on PCs on a
68020 processor running at 7MHz. You would have to assume that the
operating system is snappy as hell.

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  #69  
Old August 17th 14, 03:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Silver Slimer[_7_]
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)


There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down
correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D
games.

In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever
again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is
like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta.

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GNU/Linux is a dangerous attack on your data
  #70  
Old August 17th 14, 04:02 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Rene Lamontagne
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Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down
correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D
games.

In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever
again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is
like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta.


more like a Ford Pinto.

Regards Rene
  #71  
Old August 17th 14, 05:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
A
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down
correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D
games.

In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever
again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is
like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta.


You know what they say, "different strokes for different folks".
Personally, I would move to Linux in a New York second if it had an
Outlook like email program that did HTML the way I like it.

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  #72  
Old August 17th 14, 06:13 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Homer[_3_]
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

Pinto means painting in Spanish, never heard of Ford Pinto model.

"Rene Lamontagne" escreveu na mensagem ...

Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.


You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down
correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D
games.

In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever
again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is
like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta.


more like a Ford Pinto.

Regards Rene

  #73  
Old August 17th 14, 06:54 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Ken Blake, MVP[_4_]
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On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 18:13:50 +0100, "Homer"
wrote:

Pinto means painting in Spanish,



I don't speak Spanish, and know only a few words, but I was curious
about that. So I looked it up. It means "speckled." There are several
web sites that translate it and they all say the same the same thing.

  #74  
Old August 17th 14, 07:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
A
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Homer wrote:
Pinto means painting in Spanish, never heard of Ford Pinto model.


Painting in Spanish is "pintura" The phrase, "I paint" is "pinto". In
Ford's case they are referring to a horse:

http://www.best-horse-photos.com/images/Pinto_Horse.jpg

Ford Pinto:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Ford_Pinto.jpg


"Rene Lamontagne" escreveu na mensagem
...

Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run
slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.

You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down
correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D
games.

In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever
again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is
like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta.


more like a Ford Pinto.

Regards Rene



--
A
  #75  
Old August 17th 14, 07:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Silver Slimer[_7_]
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Default MS 8.1 Update [OT]

On 2014-08-17 12:58 PM, A wrote:
Silver Slimer wrote:
On 2014-08-16 6:42 PM, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 12:41:34 -0400, Silver Slimer
wrote:

OS war! -)

There's no war, GNU/Linux has already lost. I'm generally very
open-minded about other operating systems but GNU/Linux is so
destructively awful that I have to advocate staying away from it
completely. There's no excuse for the same system and the same game
screen tearing when played in GNU/Linux, there's no excuse for a very
standard computer refusing to shut down or sleep in GNU/Linux, there's
also no excuse for one of their main desktop environments to run
slow on
an i3 with 8GB of RAM.

You must simply be unlucky with the particular machine on which you've
tried to install it. I have Mint Cinnamon 17 installed on several
computers on SSDs and it boots up in seconds runs nice and smoothly.
On some I have both Windows and Linux installed as a dual boot, and on
these computers Linux always boots up and loads applications faster
than Windows.


That's awesome. I hope that they wake from sleep and manage to shut down
correctly. I also hope that they don't experience screen tearing in 3D
games.

In my case, I have no interest in touching the operating system ever
again. Windows does a marvelous job and replacing it with GNU/Linux is
like replacing a Porsche with a Ford Fiesta.


You know what they say, "different strokes for different folks".
Personally, I would move to Linux in a New York second if it had an
Outlook like email program that did HTML the way I like it.


It's called Evolution and it's been a part of GNU/Linux for an
incredibly long time.

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