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Old June 19th 15, 06:55 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
No_Name
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Default Using 8 as 7

I'm having a new system built. Just to stay current, I bought Windows 8.1, full
version, as the O/S. But truth be told, I don't like Windows 8, I have it on a
new laptop I picked up and I don't like the way it looks. Is there a Windows 7
type interface, that will let me run it in a more user friendly (to me) way? I
want to be able to go into Windows Explorer and work with my files and set up
icons and folders the way I'm used to having them on my current system. And
forgive me if this has been askeed before. I was just made aware of this group.
Thanks.
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Old June 19th 15, 07:46 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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"philo" wrote in message
...
On 06/19/2015 07:08 AM, Carpe Diem wrote:
schreef op 19/06/2015 om 7:55:
I'm having a new system built. Just to stay current, I bought Windows
8.1, full
version, as the O/S. But truth be told, I don't like Windows 8, I have
it on a
new laptop I picked up and I don't like the way it looks. Is there a
Windows 7
type interface, that will let me run it in a more user friendly (to
me) way? I
want to be able to go into Windows Explorer and work with my files and
set up
icons and folders the way I'm used to having them on my current
system. And
forgive me if this has been askeed before. I was just made aware of
this group.
Thanks.

A first step is to install ClassicShell :
http://www.classicshell.net/

+1


+1

Classic Shell (or other similar third party programs) turn a severely
crippled computer into a usable one: how the F are you supposed to start a
program if its installation has not placed an icon on the desktop, or to
copy a shortcut to such a program onto the desktop?

I didn't know about right-clicking on the Windows logo start button: I'll
try it and see how much of the functionality of the old XP/Vista/7 start
menu it has. Probably programs but not Start | Run or access to things like
Control Panel.

First rule of software design: never remove or change functionality when
going from one version to another; just add additional alternative
functionality. That way you don't alienate all the people who have learned
the old way and do it automatically without having to think about it.

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Old June 19th 15, 09:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Reinhard Skarbal
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Default Using 8 as 7

In article , rfdjr1
@optonline.net says...

I'm having a new system built. Just to stay current, I bought Windows 8.1, full
version, as the O/S. But truth be told, I don't like Windows 8, I have it on a
new laptop I picked up and I don't like the way it looks. Is there a Windows 7
type interface, that will let me run it in a more user friendly (to me) way? I
want to be able to go into Windows Explorer and work with my files and set up
icons and folders the way I'm used to having them on my current system. And
forgive me if this has been askeed before. I was just made aware of this group.
Thanks.


Hi

Have a look at :
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2927609/
how-to-find-the-secret-start-menu-built-into-windows-81.html

Regards
Reinhard
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Old June 19th 15, 09:15 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Using 8 as 7

On 19/06/2015 06:55, wrote:
I'm having a new system built. Just to stay current, I bought Windows 8.1, full
version, as the O/S. But truth be told, I don't like Windows 8, I have it on a
new laptop I picked up and I don't like the way it looks. Is there a Windows 7
type interface, that will let me run it in a more user friendly (to me) way? I
want to be able to go into Windows Explorer and work with my files and set up
icons and folders the way I'm used to having them on my current system. And
forgive me if this has been askeed before. I was just made aware of this group.
Thanks.


I am using Windows 8.1 and I have no problems using Windows Explorer or
file Explorer as you would want to use so why bother with third party
add ons when you can adapt your self and get used to windows 8, 8.1 and
in August Windows 10. frankly, it is time to get your grey cells
working again and use the latest UI of Windows 8, or 8.1. It is free to
upgrade from 8 to 8.1 and it will be free to upgrade from 8.1 to Windows 10.

You can have icons of your applications on you desktop or on your task
bar. Personally, I Windows explorer on task bar and all my applications
are on Windows APP because I like it that way but I am very fond of new
technologies so adapting to anything new is not a problem for me.

Just for interest sake, when you change your job, do you have problems
adapting to new ways of doing things with your new employer? I wonder!!!

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Old June 19th 15, 09:47 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/19/2015 2:46 PM, NY wrote:
"philo" wrote in message
...
On 06/19/2015 07:08 AM, Carpe Diem wrote:
schreef op 19/06/2015 om 7:55:
I'm having a new system built. Just to stay current, I bought Windows
8.1, full
version, as the O/S. But truth be told, I don't like Windows 8, I have
it on a
new laptop I picked up and I don't like the way it looks. Is there a
Windows 7
type interface, that will let me run it in a more user friendly (to
me) way? I
want to be able to go into Windows Explorer and work with my files and
set up
icons and folders the way I'm used to having them on my current
system. And
forgive me if this has been askeed before. I was just made aware of
this group.
Thanks.

A first step is to install ClassicShell :
http://www.classicshell.net/

+1


+1

Classic Shell (or other similar third party programs) turn a severely
crippled computer into a usable one: how the F are you supposed to start
a program if its installation has not placed an icon on the desktop, or
to copy a shortcut to such a program onto the desktop?

I didn't know about right-clicking on the Windows logo start button:
I'll try it and see how much of the functionality of the old XP/Vista/7
start menu it has. Probably programs but not Start | Run or access to
things like Control Panel.

First rule of software design: never remove or change functionality when
going from one version to another; just add additional alternative
functionality. That way you don't alienate all the people who have
learned the old way and do it automatically without having to think
about it.


If you have not pinned your program to the task bar, you can start it
from the new Start menu. This is the only time I access the computer
from the modern interface.

I have cleaned up this screen and it now contains only those programs
that I use infrequently. All of the garbage that Microsoft put on this
screen has been removed. When you remove a program from the Start Menu
it still is on the App menu, Those programs that I will never used, have
been uninstalled so they do not appear on the App menu either.

Personal, once cleaned I like the Start menu I can find the program I
wanted, much easier I find it is much easier than chasing pop up menus
across the screen.

I always hated MS pop up menus. It always took multiple attempts to get
the cursor on the menu of interest, without the cursor going over the
wrong area and the whole thing collapsing. Then you would have to start
over.



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Old June 19th 15, 10:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Using 8 as 7

Pfsszxt wrote on 6/19/2015 9:39 AM:
On 6/19/2015 12:55 AM, wrote:
I'm having a new system built. Just to stay current, I bought Windows 8.1, full
version, as the O/S. But truth be told, I don't like Windows 8, I have it on a
new laptop I picked up and I don't like the way it looks. Is there a Windows 7
type interface, that will let me run it in a more user friendly (to me) way? I
want to be able to go into Windows Explorer and work with my files and set up
icons and folders the way I'm used to having them on my current system. And
forgive me if this has been askeed before. I was just made aware of this group.
Thanks.

Yes ---"Start Eight" is one

Startisback is another
http://www.startisback.com/

I think there is about 5 or so out there. Worst one is about $5 maybe, and Classic shell is free as said before.

All get you the classic start button menu and some will allow you to still hit the windows key and get to that metro
start screen. I myself don't mind it, I just don't want to go there first.
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Old June 19th 15, 10:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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Default Using 8 as 7

On 6/19/2015 4:47 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

If you have not pinned your program to the task bar, you can start it
from the new Start menu. This is the only time I access the computer
from the modern interface.

Since a program can be pinned to your task bar and to the Start menu,
this is a "both/and" rather than "either/or" situation. That makes it
easier to access the apps that you need regardless of whether they're
classic or "modern".

--
Best regards,

Neil
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Old June 19th 15, 11:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Keith Nuttle
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On 6/19/2015 5:50 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/19/2015 4:47 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

If you have not pinned your program to the task bar, you can start it
from the new Start menu. This is the only time I access the computer
from the modern interface.

Since a program can be pinned to your task bar and to the Start menu,
this is a "both/and" rather than "either/or" situation. That makes it
easier to access the apps that you need regardless of whether they're
classic or "modern".

I don't know I never run the Modern Menu. I don't go to the Start menu,
unless it is a program that I seldom use. All of my routine programs
are pinned to the taskbar.

While there are a few exceptions a program is either on the Taskbar or
on the start menu. They are all on the App menu which is below the
Start menu.
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Old June 19th 15, 11:00 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
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On 6/19/2015 2:46 PM, NY wrote:

First rule of software design: never remove or change functionality when
going from one version to another; just add additional alternative
functionality. That way you don't alienate all the people who have
learned the old way and do it automatically without having to think
about it.

This "First rule" of yours has *never* been followed any more closely
than it is with Windows and Mac OSes. Apps are even less concerned about
the user's previous experience, since with many of them there has been
very little in the way of "additional alternative functionality" for a
couple of decades. Developers shuffle the app's UI so that people have
to waste a good deal of time re-learning how to do what they did with
the previous version. I suspect that this is because many apps are
already way beyond what most users need, so a new "look" becomes one of
very few selling points.

--
Best regards,

Neil
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Old June 20th 15, 12:18 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-8
Neil
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Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 6/19/2015 5:50 PM, Neil wrote:
On 6/19/2015 4:47 PM, Keith Nuttle wrote:

If you have not pinned your program to the task bar, you can start it
from the new Start menu. This is the only time I access the computer
from the modern interface.

Since a program can be pinned to your task bar and to the Start menu,
this is a "both/and" rather than "either/or" situation. That makes it
easier to access the apps that you need regardless of whether they're
classic or "modern".

I don't know I never run the Modern Menu. I don't go to the Start menu,
unless it is a program that I seldom use.

I suspect that one of two things will happen to the Modern Menu; more
apps will be introduced that are frequently used, or it will go away. In
the meantime, using or avoiding it is what qualifies the device as a
"personal computer".


While there are a few exceptions a program is either on the Taskbar or
on the start menu. They are all on the App menu which is below the
Start menu.

I see the App menu as a repository rather than a way to launch apps. If
I use an app, I pin it someplace convenient.

--
Best regards,

Neil
 




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