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Should we little people buy Windows 8.1 DVD Bing Edition and then upgrade to
Windows 10 Free or go directly for Windows 10?. We're struggling with an Eurozone crisis, they don't know if we will get to the end, if we are losing our chances of being a great unique nation with many little counties united, so if we lose we will not have internet anymore. Then, what shall we do with Windows 8.1 Bing if we can't search for opportunities and be connected? I've still some hope we will overcome this negative moment and we will go on for Windows 10 and forget all the hard times we been through. It's not urgent, I just need your advice because Windows 10 Edition is coming this Summer and I feel we're not prepared. Personally, I think I must quit and let this mission to younger people to do their good work and have fun. |
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Jack Miles wrote:
Should we little people buy Windows 8.1 DVD Bing Edition and then upgrade to Windows 10 Free or go directly for Windows 10?. We're struggling with an Eurozone crisis, they don't know if we will get to the end, if we are losing our chances of being a great unique nation with many little counties united, so if we lose we will not have internet anymore. Then, what shall we do with Windows 8.1 Bing if we can't search for opportunities and be connected? I've still some hope we will overcome this negative moment and we will go on for Windows 10 and forget all the hard times we been through. It's not urgent, I just need your advice because Windows 10 Edition is coming this Summer and I feel we're not prepared. Personally, I think I must quit and let this mission to younger people to do their good work and have fun. In a Eurozone crisis, you use the OS already on the computer. There is no need to buy anything else, Bing or otherwise. The computer I'm typing this on, is running WinXP, and several other OSes are available as virtual machines. Any OS modern enough to run VirtualBox from Oracle/Sun, can run other OSes just fine (as a virtual machine guest). You can get a copy of your "whizzy" OSes from here, for your VirtualBox installation. If you think the OS search features are so wonderful. http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/#downloads Use your brain, not your wallet. Paul |
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"Paul" escreveu na mensagem ...
Jack Miles wrote: Should we little people buy Windows 8.1 DVD Bing Edition and then upgrade to Windows 10 Free or go directly for Windows 10?. We're struggling with an Eurozone crisis, they don't know if we will get to the end, if we are losing our chances of being a great unique nation with many little counties united, so if we lose we will not have internet anymore. Then, what shall we do with Windows 8.1 Bing if we can't search for opportunities and be connected? I've still some hope we will overcome this negative moment and we will go on for Windows 10 and forget all the hard times we been through. It's not urgent, I just need your advice because Windows 10 Edition is coming this Summer and I feel we're not prepared. Personally, I think I must quit and let this mission to younger people to do their good work and have fun. In a Eurozone crisis, you use the OS already on the computer. There is no need to buy anything else, Bing or otherwise. The computer I'm typing this on, is running WinXP, and several other OSes are available as virtual machines. Any OS modern enough to run VirtualBox from Oracle/Sun, can run other OSes just fine (as a virtual machine guest). You can get a copy of your "whizzy" OSes from here, for your VirtualBox installation. If you think the OS search features are so wonderful. http://dev.modern.ie/tools/vms/#downloads Use your brain, not your wallet. Paul I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. Still I live in a almost poor country and Eurozone crisis is real, it can affect all our people. Thanks for your opinion, this system still works good, maybe I just preserve it. |
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Per Bahabi:
I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? -- Pete Cresswell |
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On 17-Jun-2015 08:55, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Bahabi: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( |
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Jack Miles wrote:
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable That's more appropriately an e-mail format. Don't use it in Usenet. For newsgroup HTML/Plain format settings, use None. Then set the max physical line length to 72 to 76 characters long. Should we little people buy Windows 8.1 DVD Bing Edition and then upgrade to Windows 10 Free or go directly for Windows 10?. What will Windows 10 do for you that you cannot do now using Windows 8? Yep, didn't think so. snipped the diatribe from a nymshifter |
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Leala wrote:
PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. |
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Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:44:53 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. And many of us just sit back and wait for the release to really see what will happen. I can't wait to see what predictions/bull **** were close. KenW Ken, when you looked in the Windows 10 Preview control panels, what did the Windows Update control panel show you ? OK, here is a snapshot of the Win10 10130 control panels. http://i62.tinypic.com/29e4nsm.jpg There is *no* Windows Update control panel. It would be pretty hard to control updates, without a control panel. Paul |
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VanguardLH wrote:
Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. I ran preview version win 10 10130 and it was alright on the intel core i7 but had problems with sound drivers on the AMD processors.I had sound fine with the drivers originally installed,but then auto update updated the drivers to hardware not on my system and no sound. The only choice it gave me on my win 10 pro edition was to reschedule an install date for update installation. This has helped me decide what to do,as I will be sticking to win 7 and win 8.1 for a while. |
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Dino wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. I ran preview version win 10 10130 and it was alright on the intel core i7 but had problems with sound drivers on the AMD processors.I had sound fine with the drivers originally installed,but then auto update updated the drivers to hardware not on my system and no sound. The only choice it gave me on my win 10 pro edition was to reschedule an install date for update installation. This has helped me decide what to do,as I will be sticking to win 7 and win 8.1 for a while. Did you try installing a driver from the hardware manufacturer ? As an alternative. For example, if the audio hardware was Realtek, I would go to realtek.com.tw and get a driver there. As I've noticed when a Windows OS does sound itself, the "brand" of the audio is not shown, and it looks like a "generic" driver is being used. You can always test a manufacturer driver as a substitute. That's assuming there is nothing in the INF to prevent it. I think when I've done that, Device Manager changes from a generic HDAudio label, to a Realtek label. Paul |
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On 17-Jun-2015 11:12, Dino wrote:
VanguardLH wrote: Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. I ran preview version win 10 10130 and it was alright on the intel core i7 but had problems with sound drivers on the AMD processors.I had sound fine with the drivers originally installed,but then auto update updated the drivers to hardware not on my system and no sound. The only choice it gave me on my win 10 pro edition was to reschedule an install date for update installation. This has helped me decide what to do,as I will be sticking to win 7 and win 8.1 for a while. I have a very similar sound problem on my 2 Dell desktops. One Dell XPS 8700 w/ Win 8.1 Home x64 and one Dell Studio XPS 435MT w/ Win 7 Ultimate x64. The very first Win 10 build, sound was working fine, after that all the following buids, no sound. No matter what I do , new drivers uninstall/install, Realtek drivers, Dell drivers, etc, etc just can't get sound to work. Looks to me that Windows 10 hates Dell. :-) |
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Paul wrote:
Dino wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. I ran preview version win 10 10130 and it was alright on the intel core i7 but had problems with sound drivers on the AMD processors.I had sound fine with the drivers originally installed,but then auto update updated the drivers to hardware not on my system and no sound. The only choice it gave me on my win 10 pro edition was to reschedule an install date for update installation. This has helped me decide what to do,as I will be sticking to win 7 and win 8.1 for a while. Did you try installing a driver from the hardware manufacturer ? As an alternative. For example, if the audio hardware was Realtek, I would go to realtek.com.tw and get a driver there. As I've noticed when a Windows OS does sound itself, the "brand" of the audio is not shown, and it looks like a "generic" driver is being used. You can always test a manufacturer driver as a substitute. That's assuming there is nothing in the INF to prevent it. I think when I've done that, Device Manager changes from a generic HDAudio label, to a Realtek label. Paul I did that and it was corrected until it auto updated again. Unless updates are manual I will pass on this version. |
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Ken1943 wrote:
On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 10:21:35 -0400, Paul wrote: Ken1943 wrote: On Wed, 17 Jun 2015 08:44:53 -0500, VanguardLH wrote: Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. And many of us just sit back and wait for the release to really see what will happen. I can't wait to see what predictions/bull **** were close. KenW Ken, when you looked in the Windows 10 Preview control panels, what did the Windows Update control panel show you ? OK, here is a snapshot of the Win10 10130 control panels. http://i62.tinypic.com/29e4nsm.jpg There is *no* Windows Update control panel. It would be pretty hard to control updates, without a control panel. Paul I don't do beta, but one never knows the final outcome except death. LOL KenW I guess I don't know my Win10 Preview all that well. While "Control Panels" has no Windows Update, if you use the "Settings" from the main menu, it has a Metro application called "Updates and Security". And in there, it could give a kinda squashed listing of what Windows Updates it was about to install. There were no controls I could see, except a note that says "we'll install when you aren't busy" or some such. Further inside, there is a control labeled "Delay Upgrades" but the "Learn More" button underneath it doesn't work. And since the word is "Upgrades" and not "Updates", who knows what it is for. Maybe it's just for the Preview. So there are some controls. And since the prototype has room for it now (there is a "space" for them to work in), that shows a commitment to differentiation. Paul |
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Dino wrote:
Paul wrote: Dino wrote: VanguardLH wrote: Leala wrote: PeteCresswell wrote: Per Bahabi aka Jack Miles: I'm not rich but I've been saving for Windows 10. What will Windows 10 deliver that XP, 7, or 8.1 will not? Less control over your OS. :-( Especially if you have the Home Edition which means no disabling (notify only) of automatic updates. If you want control over updates, you will need the Pro version of Windows 10. Well, isn't that special. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmwqnqL3Hbg We are in control ... You are about to participate in a great adventure https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCcdr4O-3gE Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. Of course, if Microsoft doesn't get humping satisfaction, they could disable features or cripple Windows 10 if you don't let them service you. Or, if you have a Home Edition and want control without having to fight back with a 3rd party firewall, buy the Pro edition and get serviced another way. I ran preview version win 10 10130 and it was alright on the intel core i7 but had problems with sound drivers on the AMD processors.I had sound fine with the drivers originally installed,but then auto update updated the drivers to hardware not on my system and no sound. The only choice it gave me on my win 10 pro edition was to reschedule an install date for update installation. This has helped me decide what to do,as I will be sticking to win 7 and win 8.1 for a while. Did you try installing a driver from the hardware manufacturer ? As an alternative. For example, if the audio hardware was Realtek, I would go to realtek.com.tw and get a driver there. As I've noticed when a Windows OS does sound itself, the "brand" of the audio is not shown, and it looks like a "generic" driver is being used. You can always test a manufacturer driver as a substitute. That's assuming there is nothing in the INF to prevent it. I think when I've done that, Device Manager changes from a generic HDAudio label, to a Realtek label. Paul I did that and it was corrected until it auto updated again. Unless updates are manual I will pass on this version. It turns out there is a control to help you. http://i61.tinypic.com/9awj9g.jpg System control panel : Advanced System Settings : System Properties, Hardware Tab Device Installation settings : Let me choose what to do I don't know what it does, but there is a tick box... "Do you want Windows to download driver software and realistic icons for your devices" So apparently there is a need for realistic icons. Who knew ? Maybe if you tick that, it'll stop overwriting your Realtek ? My 10130 preview, has a RealTek driver 6.0.1.7503, but I can't figure out where it came from. I don't have a driver file in my Downloads folder, so it isn't from there. I can tell you, my Device Manager lists a Realtek item, so it didn't use a generic HDAudio driver with no brand string. Paul |
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Per VanguardLH:
Guess you'll need a 3rd party firewall (not under Microsoft's control) that blocks Microsoft's WSUS servers. You have to defend yourself against Microsoft's "resistance is futile, you will adapt to service us" queer attitude. Either bend over and let Microsoft service you or fight back. I just accepted a firmware update to my Samsung flat-screen TV - foolishly dreaming of functional enhancements like losing that annoying "Mute" icon when listening via headphones... Guess what? Right: no detectable enhancements, but they have started to spam the screen with promotional material. Low-level at this time.... but I'll never, ever, accept an "Upgrade" on that device again. The logic seems the same: Consumer has purchased a device; attempt to take control of it for marketing purposes. Makes sense at a certain level.... albeit a rather low level. -- Pete Cresswell |
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