ISO 9660s

I am seeing that siple ISOs are not really working on Wind 7 ultimate. The
ISOs have UDF data in them and have to be booted from a DVD/R(W). Anything
to make things harder. Even ISOS made without UDF aren't showing up on my
OS. They aren't recognized or the OS says the USB stick is raw or full and
shows no data.

Bill

Bill Cunningham wrote:

I am seeing that siple ISOs are not really working on Wind 7 ultimate. The
ISOs have UDF data in them and have to be booted from a DVD/R(W). Anything
to make things harder. Even ISOS made without UDF aren't showing up on my
OS. They aren't recognized or the OS says the USB stick is raw or full and
shows no data.

I've never relied on any Windows-included support for ISOs. I use 3rd
party software, like IsoBuster (I use just the free crippled version) to
peek inside the image file or WinCDemu (free) for mounting the image
file but there are lots of other free ISO tools; e.g., Elby's Virtual
CloneDrive, MagicISO's MagicDisc. I've not felt the need to pay for ISO
tools (e.g., UltraISO @ $30, PowerISO @ $30, IsoBuster Pro @ $40,
CDRoller @ $39).

On 01/07/2018 19:17, Bill Cunningham wrote:
I am seeing that siple ISOs are not really working on Wind 7 ultimate. The
ISOs have UDF data in them and have to be booted from a DVD/R(W). Anything
to make things harder. Even ISOS made without UDF aren't showing up on my
OS. They aren't recognized or the OS says the USB stick is raw or full and
shows no data.

Bill


You didn't "finalise" the DVD after creating the bootable disk. Bootable
disks requires to be "finalised" and if you don't know what this means
then google that word.

http://www.cd-info.com/howto/finalize/index.html

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Bill Cunningham wrote:
I am seeing that siple ISOs are not really working on Wind 7 ultimate. The
ISOs have UDF data in them and have to be booted from a DVD/R(W). Anything
to make things harder. Even ISOS made without UDF aren't showing up on my
OS. They aren't recognized or the OS says the USB stick is raw or full and
shows no data.

Bill


Go to;
Control Panel/ Default Programs/ Associate a file type or protocol with
a program
and find .iso in the list.

If it's not there, then you need to install a program or associate one
already installed with it. To do that find an .iso file, right click on
it, select "open with ...".

Here's a list of programs that can deal with them;
http://extension.nirsoft.net/iso

Ed

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I am seeing that siple ISOs are not really working on Wind 7 ultimate. The
ISOs have UDF data in them and have to be booted from a DVD/R(W). Anything
to make things harder. Even ISOS made without UDF aren't showing up on my
OS. They aren't recognized or the OS says the USB stick is raw or full and
shows no data.

Bill

The fact it refers to a optical drive as a USB device means something
lower level is the issue. Is the optical drive a plug-in usb dvd drive?

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On 02/07/2018 20:36, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Why are you posting in HTML ?

Because you are a ****ing liar Troll. You've changed your name once
again to Bill ****er. Go and **** yourself.

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On 02/07/2018 20:36, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Why are you posting in HTML ?

Because you are a ****ing liar Troll. You've changed your name once
again to Bill ****er. Go and **** yourself.

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From: Bill Cunningham

GG, that's not a nym shifter. He's an upgrader
from the WinXP group, now running Win7. He
was one of the few people running WinXP SP2 x64.

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.

Paul

Bill Cunningham wrote:
I am seeing that siple ISOs are not really working on Wind 7 ultimate. The
ISOs have UDF data in them and have to be booted from a DVD/R(W). Anything
to make things harder. Even ISOS made without UDF aren't showing up on my
OS. They aren't recognized or the OS says the USB stick is raw or full and
shows no data.

Bill

I can't tell what you're really doing.

For identification purposes, I recommend "disktype".

http://disktype.sourceforge.net/

Only problem is, there's no native Windows version.
For that, you can install Cygwin, then install the
disktype package, then extract disktype.exe and
the two Cygwin runtime DLLs, and that makes
a portable Windows version of the tool.

disktype.exe some.iso

And that will give details of the ISO9660 file contents.

*******

I don't see a native ISO9660 mounter in Windows 7.

Purely for your amusement, there is Passmark OSFMounter.
I tried this on an ISO9660 and it worked!

https://www.osforensics.com/tools/mo...sk-images.html

Here is a picture of it working on Windows 7.

https://s22.postimg.cc/n6s7a2zj5/Pas...OSFMounter.gif

*******

Only UDF 2.6 is read-only, on modern Windows. The
others in the table seem to be supported. UDF can
even be applied to hard drives (without knowing
why it would have any merit whatsoever).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format

Paul

Paul wrote in news

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.

I seem to see no OE on this win 7 ultimate. I have had it about 2 months
now or os. I am using xnews. Whew. It's much harder than OE. All takes time
to learn I guess.

I under linux monted and ISO with UDF data and used genisoimage to create a
non-bootable ISO 9660 without UDF code. To sinmply insert the USB stick and
see if the data was understood. win 7 ultimate wanted to format the
full/empty USB stick. Boot code or not would make no difference, the OS
doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I dodn't know the internals of this
"new" OS like I did XP. And this mahcine I bought used is different too. It
wouldn't recognize my XP X64 sp2 DVD.

Bill

Bill Cunningham wrote:
Paul wrote in news

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.

I seem to see no OE on this win 7 ultimate. I have had it about 2 months
now or os. I am using xnews. Whew. It's much harder than OE. All takes time
to learn I guess.

I under linux monted and ISO with UDF data and used genisoimage to create a
non-bootable ISO 9660 without UDF code. To sinmply insert the USB stick and
see if the data was understood. win 7 ultimate wanted to format the
full/empty USB stick. Boot code or not would make no difference, the OS
doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I dodn't know the internals of this
"new" OS like I did XP. And this mahcine I bought used is different too. It
wouldn't recognize my XP X64 sp2 DVD.

Bill

Win7 Pro and Win7 Ultimate support "WinXP Mode".

There, you can run your OE.

The tool used consists of two parts. A 20MB download containing
"Windows Virtual PC". And a 500MB file containing a brand new
(licensed) WinXP image.

The difference between Windows Virtual PC and VPC2007, is
Windows Virtual PC for Windows 7 supports terminal services.
This allows a program (OE) running under the WinXP VM,
to open a rootless OE window on the Windows 7 desktop.
The environment provides desktop integration, and terminal
services allows the WinXP Guest to draw on the Win7 desktop.

Most people can't use this, because they're running Win7 Home
or Home Premium. If you spent the extra money on one of the
higher SKUs, then this option is available to you.

Some details he

https://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...all-setup.html

*******

Running a copy of WinXP inside VirtualBox, provides
some of the same functions - the difference is, you have
to provide the license key in that case. The advantage
of WinXP Mode and Windows Virtual PC, is the license
is included in the download.

You cannot run Windows Virtual PC and VirtualBox simultaneously.
As long as one of them is shut down, you can start the
other running without a problem. Just don't run both
of them at the same time. Windows Virtual PC only supports
single CPU core operation, which is a performance limitation
of this solution.

The WinXP Mode image is not designed to be "transported"
to some other VM environment.

You could patch the WinXP Mode install up to date with
WsusOffline legacy version after it's installed. Version 9.2.4.

http://download.wsusoffline.net/

Run the tool on your Win7 machine, collect the WinXP update
collection, then you'll have to share a folder with the
WinXP Mode VM to be able to run the Client install from
the collected updates. That brings the WinXP Mode OS up
to around the year 2014 or so. It would not include any
POSReady updates. It will likely be missing the SMBV1 patch
as well.

Make an occasional backup copy of the WinXP Mode .vhd file,
for safety. You do this, *while the VM is shut down*.

Windows Virtual PC doesn't have the nice interface
of VPC2007. They changed the interface so it runs from
an Explorer window. And the "controls" are on a bar
above the Explorer window when you're situated above
the VM folder.

*******

Of course you could use Thunderbird for newsgroups...
But it's not OE.

Paul

Paul wrote in news
Bill Cunningham wrote:
Paul wrote in
news

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.

I seem to see no OE on this win 7 ultimate. I have had it about 2
months now or os. I am using xnews. Whew. It's much harder than OE.
All takes time to learn I guess.

I under linux monted and ISO with UDF data and used genisoimage to
create a non-bootable ISO 9660 without UDF code. To sinmply insert
the USB stick and see if the data was understood. win 7 ultimate
wanted to format the full/empty USB stick. Boot code or not would
make no difference, the OS doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I
dodn't know the internals of this "new" OS like I did XP. And this
mahcine I bought used is different too. It wouldn't recognize my XP
X64 sp2 DVD.

Bill

Win7 Pro and Win7 Ultimate support "WinXP Mode".

There, you can run your OE.

....

Of course you could use Thunderbird for newsgroups...
But it's not OE.

I didn't know you could use usenet with thunderbird. That's what I use for
email. I still miss XP x64. But my machine went. I think the HD is still
useable.

Bill Cunningham wrote:
Paul wrote in news
Bill Cunningham wrote:
Paul wrote in
news

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.
I seem to see no OE on this win 7 ultimate. I have had it about 2
months now or os. I am using xnews. Whew. It's much harder than OE.
All takes time to learn I guess.

I under linux monted and ISO with UDF data and used genisoimage to
create a non-bootable ISO 9660 without UDF code. To sinmply insert
the USB stick and see if the data was understood. win 7 ultimate
wanted to format the full/empty USB stick. Boot code or not would
make no difference, the OS doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I
dodn't know the internals of this "new" OS like I did XP. And this
mahcine I bought used is different too. It wouldn't recognize my XP
X64 sp2 DVD.

Bill
Win7 Pro and Win7 Ultimate support "WinXP Mode".

There, you can run your OE.

...

Of course you could use Thunderbird for newsgroups...
But it's not OE.

I didn't know you could use usenet with thunderbird. That's what I use for
email. I still miss XP x64. But my machine went. I think the HD is still
useable.

Yes, Thunderbird allows the creation of news accounts.

For setting up Eternal September, you want to
tick the "Always Request Authentication" box.

There are probably a few tutorials around with details.

https://www.fastusenet.org/thunderbi...-tutorial.html

Paul

On 02/07/2018 23:18, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Paul wrote in news

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.

I seem to see no OE on this win 7 ultimate. I have had it about 2 months
now or os. I am using xnews. Whew. It's much harder than OE. All takes time
to learn I guess.

I under linux monted and ISO with UDF data and used genisoimage to create a
non-bootable ISO 9660 without UDF code. To sinmply insert the USB stick and
see if the data was understood. win 7 ultimate wanted to format the
full/empty USB stick. Boot code or not would make no difference, the OS
doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I dodn't know the internals of this
"new" OS like I did XP. And this mahcine I bought used is different too. It
wouldn't recognize my XP X64 sp2 DVD.

Bill


ISO is for optical disks.
WTF would you expect anything to understand it if you write it to a USB
drive?

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On 03/07/2018 17:58, FredW wrote:
On Tue, 3 Jul 2018 17:25:49 +0100, Brian Gregory
wrote:
On 02/07/2018 23:18, Bill Cunningham wrote:
Paul wrote in news

And his name has been consistent for years.
Look it up.

I seem to see no OE on this win 7 ultimate. I have had it about 2 months
now or os. I am using xnews. Whew. It's much harder than OE. All takes time
to learn I guess.

I under linux monted and ISO with UDF data and used genisoimage to create a
non-bootable ISO 9660 without UDF code. To sinmply insert the USB stick and
see if the data was understood. win 7 ultimate wanted to format the
full/empty USB stick. Boot code or not would make no difference, the OS
doesn't seem to be recognizing it. I dodn't know the internals of this
"new" OS like I did XP. And this mahcine I bought used is different too. It
wouldn't recognize my XP X64 sp2 DVD.

ISO is for optical disks.

Wrong

WTF would you expect anything to understand it if you write it to a USB
drive?

I write ISO's to USB sticks using Rufus.
http://rufus.akeo.ie/
or UnetBootin
https://unetbootin.github.io/
or ...

There is nothing wring with writing an ISO to USB.
Then you can start your computer from the ISO on your USB.

Try it, a new world will open to you,
:-)

[or read more carefully, not USB drive, but USB stick]


They why are there special programs like Rufus that look in the ISO and
work out how to make a bootable USB stick from it?

It may work sometimes but you cannot rely on it to work with absolutely
any bootable ISO.

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