What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?

Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

Advice for beginners in getting up to speed in minutes on VPN was posted
this morning where the question then came up of a "free Usenet proxy".
o How to get up & running on a free public vpn service in minutes
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/Bv8bwG4ggnc

Mike Easter, always being purposefully helpful, suggested another POV:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Bv8bwG4ggnc/lcJ5Jo8OEgAJ

Specifically, Mike referred to this helpful article saying not to use a
public VPN service as a "glorified proxy"
o Don't use VPN services.
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29

The article Mike kindly referred to suggests using a "specific proxy" instead:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Bv8bwG4ggnc/oAPYdk4QEgAJ

That's all well & good if you're posting to Usenet via a browser:
o TBB https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser.html.en
o Opera VPN Browser https://www.opera.com/computer/features/free-vpn
o Epic Privacy Browser https://www.epicbrowser.com/
etc.

There's nothing wrong with the alternative POV of that article other than
the unanswered question, which is the question asked in this thread.

What proxy answers the specific problem set is of finding a reasonably fast
& reliable free proxy that allows the user to post to free news servers?

In summary, for _any_ common consumer platform (Win/Linux/Mac/iOS/Android):
Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

arlen holder wrote:
The article Mike kindly referred to suggests using a "specific proxy" instead:

That is not correct.

The gistgithub article is NOT 'favorable' to proxies; and it mentions
proxy in the par "So when should I use a VPN?" and then the usage is in
a larger context going in the direction of a personal VPN at a VPS. It
does repeat opining saying that VPNs are glorified proxies; but I don't
want to defend every word in the article, but instead to expose its
point of view.

It is definitely not an article pro-proxy anti-VPN, but more an article
reminding the reader that "A VPN provider specifically seeks out those
who are looking for privacy, and who may thus have interesting traffic.
Statistically speaking, it is more likely that a VPN provider will be
malicious or a honeypot, than that an arbitrary generic VPS provider
will be."

The article comes on a little stronger about that than I would be, but
if you explore the content of the TOPS* site you can sense that the user
who is encourage to be a VPN user and then goes hunting for the best VPN
will more likely be reading the wrong pages than the right ones.

*https://thatoneprivacysite.net/

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Mike Easter

On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 12:46:40 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

Mike Easter

Hi Mike,

None of what you wrote even remotely answers the question.
o I don't fear a thread that has no good answer.

Sometimes, an intelligent person provides a useful answer.
o If so, we _all_ benefit from that intelligent person's knowledge.

Sometimes nobody knows the answer to the question
o That's OK; then I don't need to respond to ignorant drivel as a result

The question is patently simple - which asks intelligent users simply...
Q: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?

arlen holder wrote:
Q: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?

I have no interest in that question and I'm under no obligation to even
consider it worth discussing.

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On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:29:54 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

I have no interest in that question and I'm under no obligation to even
consider it worth discussing.

The question is actually very simple & rather easy to comprehend Mike.

Knowledgeable users who know the answer can add to our knowledge.

Q: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?

On 18/02/2019 00.15, arlen holder wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:29:54 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

I have no interest in that question and I'm under no obligation to even
consider it worth discussing.

The question is actually very simple & rather easy to comprehend Mike.

Knowledgeable users who know the answer can add to our knowledge.

I hate your mania of saying that phrase.


Q: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?


I don't have the foggiest idea what an nntp proxy would be in your
context, what would it be useful for.

An nntp proxy would just be an nntp server that forwards to another nntp
server - which by definition converts it into another nntp server, not a
proxy. It would not necessarily anonymize the user.


There is an nntp proxy, I use one - but it sits in my very own computer.
It is called leafnode - seek it up in the wikipedia. It is not used for
anonymity: its original creation purpose was for use with dial up modems.

A user would connect the modem and fire up the "fetch news cycle":
leafnode collects all new messages on the groups it follows (not all
groups). Then the modem would disconnect. The user or users would read
the posts, write answers using any normal nntp client software, which
for all purposes would think they were connected to a normal nntp server
on Internet. Finally, the machine would fire up the modem and send all
pending nntp posts in a few seconds of connection.

This would happen daily, hourly, or any period the admin would define
with cron. This was/is on Linux, maybe there were other tools for Windows.

The current advantage now that dial up modems are not used is that the
clients read posts much faster. It also allows automatic connection to
several upstream nntp servers: if one doesn't work, it goes to another.

I can also search for a text on a group or bunch of groups, because the
"server" is in my machine and I have access to its files.

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On 2/17/19 6:15 PM, arlen holder wrote:
On Sun, 17 Feb 2019 14:29:54 -0800, Mike Easter wrote:

I have no interest in that question and I'm under no obligation to even
consider it worth discussing.

The question is actually very simple & rather easy to comprehend Mike.

Knowledgeable users who know the answer can add to our knowledge.

Q: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?


Google is your friend.

I copied and pasted your question into Google; it came back with "About
481,000 results (0.78 seconds)"

The seventh result down the page was "25 Best Free Web Proxies for Safer
and Anonymous Surfing | SpyAdvice
https://spyadvice.com/free-web-proxies/"
While I didn't check out the cite/site, it does mention "It also
supports Usenet... posting..."



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arlen holder wrote:

Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

You could for example use a SOCKS proxy, but why would you want to do
that? Can't you connect directly to that free NNTP news server?

On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 22:35:27 +0100, Georg Schwarz wrote:

Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

You could for example use a SOCKS proxy, but why would you want to do
that? Can't you connect directly to that free NNTP news server?

Hi George,

Thanks for the SOCK suggestion.

I admit I haven't "played" with SOCKS since I had to get Mixmin encryption
to work with, oh, was it "Pan" before Pan allowed it natively, so it has
been _years_ since I touched SOCKS.

To answer your question, of WHY, it was explained in the OP.

Essentially, this is what happened:
1. I wrote a quick VPN basics for beginners
2. Mike Easter responded, essentially, advising the following:
o Don't use VPN services.
https://gist.github.com/joepie91/5a9909939e6ce7d09e29
3. I immediately summarized Mike's article as the following:
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.android/Bv8bwG4ggnc/oAPYdk4QEgAJ

Mike Easter _continued_ to keyword troll the thread, in essence, ruining it
for beginners (which was, likely, Mike's intention from the start for all I
know, since nothing he said passed the simple 3-word ignorance test).

Many times I asked Mike to stop spewing ignorant bull****.
o Almost nothing Mike wrote passed the simple 3-word ignorance test.

Mike kept spewing more and more and more ignorant bull****.
o Mike couldn't comprehend that he couldn't comprehend.

Almost every post by Mike failed the 3-word ignorance test:
o Name just one

Since Mike refused to comprehend that the proxy doesn't exist,
I brought the question over here, and let Mike know I did that
(since I am an adult).

It's abundantly clear that I assumed the answer was "no", but, since I'm an
adult, I asked anyway, just in case the answer was not "no".

Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

If the keyword trolls didn't exist, this thread would have remained on
topic, but keyword trolls are like the hypothetical southern hick who can't
comprehend the existence of a Black female Jewish doctor.

Everything BUT that simple question was covered by the keyword trolls,
almost all of which (if not all of which) was complete ignorant bull****
that didn't even pass the three word ignorance test of:
o Name just one

In the end, this thread likely should have been two post, the first asking:
Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

*Name just one.*

And the second providing the most likely answer:
Q: *Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?*
A: *no*

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On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 00:10:13 -0000 (UTC)
arlen holder wrote:

Black female Jewish doctor.

You just keep getting worse, don't you, you racist pig? When will you
claim that she's inbred, too?

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In alt.os.linux arlen holder wrote:
Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

....

In summary, for _any_ common consumer platform (Win/Linux/Mac/iOS/Android):
Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

Grab a list of socks4/socks5 proxies, then:

proxychains pan
proxychains telnet news.aioe.org 119
....
whatever.

Subject: What's a free proxy for the specific purpose of free Usenet posts?

Answer: a free proxy is irrelavent for the specific purpose of free
Usenet posts.

On 2019-02-17, arlen holder wrote:
Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

A: leafnode costs $0

Advice for beginners in getting up to speed in minutes on VPN was posted
this morning where the question then came up of a "free Usenet proxy".

Appently this question is "easy to understand" but so far I've
probably missed the mark twice.

In minutes? really? Are you going to explain which type of VPN or are
we expected to guess?

o How to get up & running on a free public vpn service in minutes
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.mobile.android/Bv8bwG4ggnc

Oh, no just a ****ing link.... seems to be VPN for anonymity, rather
than security. ok.

What proxy answers the specific problem set is of finding a reasonably fast
& reliable free proxy that allows the user to post to free news servers?

And now I have a question for you. If I had it how would making such
information public be beneficial?

It seems like such a tool would be most useful to spammers. Curretlty they
seem to favour google groups so if you want a free way to post to usenet
that's probably the best way.

In summary, for _any_ common consumer platform (Win/Linux/Mac/iOS/Android):
Q: Does a free proxy even exist to post using free nntp news servers?

What's the difference between a free proxy and a free nntp news server?

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Jasen Betts wrote:
What's the difference between a free proxy and a free nntp news server?

The problem is that arlen expects you to 'think' like he does, which is
not .... (? something difficult to define), let's say 'normal' or
typical for absence of a better word.

But, something 'similar' to the way he thinks is that (maybe) he thinks
that it is important for him to maintain his privacy in relationship to
a free nntp text admin mixmin, his choice of an nntp which does not
require authentication.

So, apparently his current strategy for that purpose is to use free VPN,
except that free VPN has its own limitations of various sorts - free
trial VPN, and other varieties of free. If you search for free VPN
providers you will run into limitations.

Many web proxies are free; so his further thinking (we are/ I am/
guessing, as he refuses to make his target goals or aims public info
here) that similarly to free web proxies, what would be useful to him
personally in terms of concealing his IP from the nntp admin at mixmin
(or perhaps alternatively to obscure even the encrypted version of his
IP in the mixmin Injection-info posting-host content from the
usenet/internet at large) would be a similar proxy to be used for him to
access the mixmin nntp server.

I have only used a couple of 'proxy' type devices or utilities in
conjunction with nntp or smtp; those bear no resemblance to his
purposes. I've used nproxy as a filter for nntp, I have used yProxy as
a filter for nntp to decode yEncoding for agents which couldn't do that,
and I have used SpamPal, which is like SpamAssassin which acts as a
milter-type 'proxy' for smtp mail filtering.

But, his idea is for a proxy to work 'in the other direction' as a
concealment proxy like a webproxy, as well as I can tell absent his full
disclosure of his purpose. He likes to structure 'conversations' in his
own style, and if one should deviate from what he agrees with you are
all kinda bad.

--
Mike Easter

On 19/02/2019 20:56, Jasen Betts wrote:
And now I have a question for you. If I had it how would making such
information public be beneficial?

the benefit is to the paedophile like Arlen whatever (I can't remember
his name because he keeps changing them) and he strongly believes that
you are a young boy who would be attracted by his desire to be anonymous
on these newsgroups. He seems to have won this over you. the next step
is to ask you to sit on his laps so that he can show you how to use a
mouse!!.

I suggest kill-file him so that we don't have to read his posts but if
you fail to do this then you will be the subject of "DELETE" button on
most people's computers. I hardly receive any posts in this newsgroup
until an idiot like you replies to a known troll and we have to suffer
for your stupidity. I am putting you on my kill-file until you get some
intelligence to make good judgements on these newsgroups.




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