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Hardware compatibility checker?
I think I recall that during the initial rollout of Windows 10 there
was a compatibility checker you could run that would tell you if your hardware was adequate to run Win10 before you installed it. If it ever existed, is it still available? |
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Hardware compatibility checker?
On 08/01/2020 23:47, Nil wrote:
I think I recall that during the initial rollout of Windows 10 there was a compatibility checker you could run that would tell you if your hardware was adequate to run Win10 before you installed it. If it ever existed, is it still available? Yes https://www.techworm.net/2018/09/win...hecker-pc.html HTH |
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On 08 Jan 2020, David wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: On 08/01/2020 23:47, Nil wrote: I think I recall that during the initial rollout of Windows 10 there was a compatibility checker you could run that would tell you if your hardware was adequate to run Win10 before you installed it. If it ever existed, is it still available? Yes https://www.techworm.net/2018/09/win...hecker-pc.html The article at that link now points to where you can download Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, which I know makes a full-size installation disc or flash drive. After I posted this I found a post in alt.windows7.general where somebody asked a similar question, and the answer was that there's no separate compatibility checker any more, but if you run the installation media as if you were going to do a regular Win10 install, it will first do a compatibility check, after which you can bail and not continue with the installation. Have I got that right? I don't want to install Win10 at this time but I am curious to know what MS thinks about the possibility on one of my older computers. |
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Nil wrote:
On 08 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: On 08/01/2020 23:47, Nil wrote: I think I recall that during the initial rollout of Windows 10 there was a compatibility checker you could run that would tell you if your hardware was adequate to run Win10 before you installed it. If it ever existed, is it still available? Yes https://www.techworm.net/2018/09/win...hecker-pc.html The article at that link now points to where you can download Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, which I know makes a full-size installation disc or flash drive. After I posted this I found a post in alt.windows7.general where somebody asked a similar question, and the answer was that there's no separate compatibility checker any more, but if you run the installation media as if you were going to do a regular Win10 install, it will first do a compatibility check, after which you can bail and not continue with the installation. Have I got that right? I don't want to install Win10 at this time but I am curious to know what MS thinks about the possibility on one of my older computers. You can plug in your Win10 1909 DVD, into a running Windows 7 system, run Setup.exe off the DVD, and get your test result. If the CPU is missing a hardware feature, the install stops rather quickly. Here, an ancient P4 system (capable of running Win7 and has Win7 installed for this test), fails the NX check. https://i.postimg.cc/2ykKyy6K/dvd-19...heck-no-NX.gif Once it "summarizes" what it plans to do, says it will "keep your files and programs", at that point it won't be doing any more testing. So you can "Cancel" at that point and eject the DVD. Paul |
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On 09 Jan 2020, Paul wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: Nil wrote: On 08 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: On 08/01/2020 23:47, Nil wrote: I think I recall that during the initial rollout of Windows 10 there was a compatibility checker you could run that would tell you if your hardware was adequate to run Win10 before you installed it. If it ever existed, is it still available? Yes https://www.techworm.net/2018/09/win...bility-checker -pc.html The article at that link now points to where you can download Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, which I know makes a full-size installation disc or flash drive. After I posted this I found a post in alt.windows7.general where somebody asked a similar question, and the answer was that there's no separate compatibility checker any more, but if you run the installation media as if you were going to do a regular Win10 install, it will first do a compatibility check, after which you can bail and not continue with the installation. Have I got that right? I don't want to install Win10 at this time but I am curious to know what MS thinks about the possibility on one of my older computers. You can plug in your Win10 1909 DVD, into a running Windows 7 system, run Setup.exe off the DVD, and get your test result. If the CPU is missing a hardware feature, the install stops rather quickly. Here, an ancient P4 system (capable of running Win7 and has Win7 installed for this test), fails the NX check. https://i.postimg.cc/2ykKyy6K/dvd-19...heck-no-NX.gif Once it "summarizes" what it plans to do, says it will "keep your files and programs", at that point it won't be doing any more testing. So you can "Cancel" at that point and eject the DVD. Any idea how far you can get into it before the install starts making unreversable changes? I made an installation flash drive and ran the install on a computer I know could run Win10 if I wanted it to. It didn't complain about the hardware, but it was starting to look for things to keep or delete. I didn't want to proceed to the next step so I canceled it right then and there. Your comment implies that if the hardware were not adequate it would have told me before that point. I'm going to try it on the older computer tonight or tomorrow. That machine has an AMD Phenom II X4 965 processor. I have to scrounge around my records to remember what the motherboard is so I can see if drivers are available. |
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Nil wrote:
On 09 Jan 2020, Paul wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Nil wrote: On 08 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: On 08/01/2020 23:47, Nil wrote: I think I recall that during the initial rollout of Windows 10 there was a compatibility checker you could run that would tell you if your hardware was adequate to run Win10 before you installed it. If it ever existed, is it still available? Yes https://www.techworm.net/2018/09/win...bility-checker -pc.html The article at that link now points to where you can download Microsoft's Media Creation Tool, which I know makes a full-size installation disc or flash drive. After I posted this I found a post in alt.windows7.general where somebody asked a similar question, and the answer was that there's no separate compatibility checker any more, but if you run the installation media as if you were going to do a regular Win10 install, it will first do a compatibility check, after which you can bail and not continue with the installation. Have I got that right? I don't want to install Win10 at this time but I am curious to know what MS thinks about the possibility on one of my older computers. You can plug in your Win10 1909 DVD, into a running Windows 7 system, run Setup.exe off the DVD, and get your test result. If the CPU is missing a hardware feature, the install stops rather quickly. Here, an ancient P4 system (capable of running Win7 and has Win7 installed for this test), fails the NX check. https://i.postimg.cc/2ykKyy6K/dvd-19...heck-no-NX.gif Once it "summarizes" what it plans to do, says it will "keep your files and programs", at that point it won't be doing any more testing. So you can "Cancel" at that point and eject the DVD. Any idea how far you can get into it before the install starts making unreversable changes? I made an installation flash drive and ran the install on a computer I know could run Win10 if I wanted it to. It didn't complain about the hardware, but it was starting to look for things to keep or delete. I didn't want to proceed to the next step so I canceled it right then and there. Your comment implies that if the hardware were not adequate it would have told me before that point. I'm going to try it on the older computer tonight or tomorrow. That machine has an AMD Phenom II X4 965 processor. I have to scrounge around my records to remember what the motherboard is so I can see if drivers are available. There isn't any point going past this screen. Click the "X" and get the hell out of there :-) https://www.tenforums.com/attachment..._install-7.png There is another screen after the "Summary" screen, where you can quit, but seeing that Summary in the picture, is warning enough that you've run out of rope. Here's the link where that picture came from. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...e-upgrade.html Paul |
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On 09 Jan 2020, Paul wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: Nil wrote: Any idea how far you can get into it before the install starts making unreversable changes? There isn't any point going past this screen. Click the "X" and get the hell out of there :-) https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...7d1547071408-r epair-install-windows-10-place-upgrade-windows_10_repair_install-7. png There is another screen after the "Summary" screen, where you can quit, but seeing that Summary in the picture, is warning enough that you've run out of rope. Here's the link where that picture came from. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...all-windows-10 -place-upgrade.html That's exactly where I canceled out of the installation, where it said "Ready to install". Thanks for the sanity check. I'm pretty sure that computer could run Windows 10 reasonably well, even though its ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 motherboard only has Windows 8.1 drivers. I found some reports of other people successfully upgrading from Windows 7. I don't intend to do that - I usually only change OSs when I build or buy a new computer or when it won't run some software that I want it to run, and this one's working fine at the moment - but I was curious about the possibility. |
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On 11/01/2020 20:44, Nil wrote:
On 09 Jan 2020, Paul wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Nil wrote: Any idea how far you can get into it before the install starts making unreversable changes? There isn't any point going past this screen. Click the "X" and get the hell out of there :-) https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...7d1547071408-r epair-install-windows-10-place-upgrade-windows_10_repair_install-7. png There is another screen after the "Summary" screen, where you can quit, but seeing that Summary in the picture, is warning enough that you've run out of rope. Here's the link where that picture came from. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...all-windows-10 -place-upgrade.html That's exactly where I canceled out of the installation, where it said "Ready to install". Thanks for the sanity check. I'm pretty sure that computer could run Windows 10 reasonably well, even though its ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 motherboard only has Windows 8.1 drivers. I found some reports of other people successfully upgrading from Windows 7. I don't intend to do that - I usually only change OSs when I build or buy a new computer or when it won't run some software that I want it to run, and this one's working fine at the moment - but I was curious about the possibility. I'm pleased to know it all worked out! Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Where is a safe place to get it? I believe its free. Is that right? -- David |
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Hardware compatibility checker?
David wrote:
On 11/01/2020 20:44, Nil wrote: On 09 Jan 2020, Paul wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Nil wrote: Any idea how far you can get into it before the install starts making unreversable changes? There isn't any point going past this screen. Click the "X" and get the hell out of there :-) https://www.tenforums.com/attachment...7d1547071408-r epair-install-windows-10-place-upgrade-windows_10_repair_install-7. png There is another screen after the "Summary" screen, where you can quit, but seeing that Summary in the picture, is warning enough that you've run out of rope. Here's the link where that picture came from. https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...all-windows-10 -place-upgrade.html That's exactly where I canceled out of the installation, where it said "Ready to install". Thanks for the sanity check. I'm pretty sure that computer could run Windows 10 reasonably well, even though its ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 motherboard only has Windows 8.1 drivers. I found some reports of other people successfully upgrading from Windows 7. I don't intend to do that - I usually only change OSs when I build or buy a new computer or when it won't run some software that I want it to run, and this one's working fine at the moment - but I was curious about the possibility. I'm pleased to know it all worked out! Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Where is a safe place to get it? I believe its free. Is that right? You already have a newsgroup reader. Do you need this for froggery ? :-/ You are a little too full of surprises, your rating has slipped a notch. You're now in the "radioactive" section of the list. Paul |
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On 12 Jan 2020, David wrote in
alt.comp.os.windows-10: Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Yes. |
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On 13/01/2020 20:02, Nil wrote:
On 12 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Yes. Thank you. :-) I'm uncertain how you know that to be true though. It appears to be fairly old, looking he- https://web.archive.org/web/20141227...s.newsguy.com/ There's a little about it here too:- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xnews I wonder from where 'Paul' would download it. Hmmm -- David |
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David schreef op 13-01-2020
in : On 13/01/2020 20:02, Nil wrote: On 12 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Yes. Thank you. :-) I'm uncertain how you know that to be true though. It appears to be fairly old, looking he- https://web.archive.org/web/20141227...s.newsguy.com/ MesNews is also old, but it works great. http://www.mesnews.net -- MdW. |
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On 13/01/2020 23:10, Machiel de Wit wrote:
David schreef op 13-01-2020 in : On 13/01/2020 20:02, Nil wrote: On 12 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Yes. Thank you. :-) I'm uncertain how you know that to be true though. It appears to be fairly old, looking he- https://web.archive.org/web/20141227...s.newsguy.com/ MesNews is also old, but it works great. http://www.mesnews.net Thank you. :-) At the link it says:- "It works on all version of Windows (95, 98, NT, on 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8)." Have you tried it with Windows 10? -- David |
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David wrote:
On 13/01/2020 23:10, Machiel de Wit wrote: David schreef op 13-01-2020 in : On 13/01/2020 20:02, Nil wrote: On 12 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Yes. Thank you. :-) I'm uncertain how you know that to be true though. It appears to be fairly old, looking he- https://web.archive.org/web/20141227...s.newsguy.com/ MesNews is also old, but it works great. http://www.mesnews.net Thank you. :-) At the link it says:- "It works on all version of Windows (95, 98, NT, on 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8)." Have you tried it with Windows 10? -- David Why would a guy asking questions from a Macintosh computer, be so so concerned about Windows 10 compatibility, like he was a member of the Windows 10 police or something ? Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 You do like everyone else does here. You test the software yourself. And, you use the normal level of security handling. Even if a person tells you they ran something, you should *repeat* the virustotal scan or the Windows Defender scan, or examine the executable for trouble as best you can. One of the reasons fewer people get stung here, is we try to education them about "safe hex" when the topic comes up. For example, *don't* download executables from page 20 of a Google search - the good results are on page 1. Page 20 is full of traps and bears and "Danger, Will Robinson". When you asked the question, a poster with good reputation points answered your question with "Yes.", which means the experiment you are about to carry out, is highly likely to succeed. If there is something abnormal about your machine, you've broken a lot of subsystems while hacking the machine to death, the answer might well be "No.", but the thing is, you would then be responsible for any errant behaviors. When a person answers "Yes." like that, it means "yes, for an un-buggered machine". If you were attempting to use a 64-bit PE32+ version of some software, on an Android version of Windows 10, the answer is likely "No. For obvious reasons.". We always assume some level of common sense here when answering questions. Laboriously writing encyclopedic tomes covering every conceivable ****up (trying to run an EXE on a Windows 10-S machine), that's just not going to happen. If you want more strict answers, please include "winver" info and copy the descriptive version text from the System control panel. As this will aid answerers in identifying "the alligators ate it" cases. On the Macintosh, your platform of choice, frequently the "era of software doesn't match your current OS version" is the root cause and the annoying part of finding software to work. For example, imagine you're running Sierra or something, and you go to wireshark.org and you look at their Macintosh download section. Nothing is labeled! You'll see 20 versions. Only two of those will run on your Mac (with it's particular MacOSX 10.x). Which two ? Who knows! That's what it's like trying to align Mac freeware with MacOSX version. Every Mac user is expected to go to Wireshark.org and play "matrix roulette" to find the right one to run. I've spent many unhappy hours trying to sort stuff like that. The situation on Windows could be considered to be just as bad, except the most common use cases, work. There is less roulette required. (Nothing works for the dude on Win98, but you expect that.) For example, if I go to OldVersions and pick up an Imgburn from the collection, they're all likely to work. Each one will have different amounts of adware, and different file sizes. Only when someone has gone to considerable effort (Paint.Net) to make your life miserable, could it turn out otherwise. Testing. Testing. Testing. Rubber boots. Rubber gloves. Don't be in a rush. Don't click the wrong link. "Yes." Paul |
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On 14/01/2020 05:34, Paul wrote:
David wrote: On 13/01/2020 23:10, Machiel de Wit wrote: David schreef op 13-01-2020 in : On 13/01/2020 20:02, Nil wrote: On 12 Jan 2020, David wrote in alt.comp.os.windows-10: Can one use Xnews on Windows 10? Yes. Thank you. :-) I'm uncertain how you know that to be true though. It appears to be fairly old, looking he- https://web.archive.org/web/20141227...s.newsguy.com/ MesNews is also old, but it works great. http://www.mesnews.net Thank you. :-) At the link it says:- "It works on all version of Windows (95, 98, NT, on 2000, XP, Vista, 7 and 8)." Have you tried it with Windows 10? -- David Why would a guy asking questions from a Macintosh computer, be so so concerned about Windows 10 compatibility, like he was a member of the Windows 10 police or something ? Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:68.0) ** Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.4.1 I am entitled to ask, just as you are entitled to answer! ;-) If you check my header info. now you should note that I'm posting from my Toshiba laptop which has Windows 10 installed. THAT should provide adequate information and explanation, Paul. You do like everyone else does here. You test the software yourself. And, you use the normal level of security handling. Even if a person tells you they ran something, you should *repeat* the virustotal scan or the Windows Defender scan, or examine the executable for trouble as best you can. One of the reasons fewer people get stung here, is we try to education them about "safe hex" when the topic comes up. For example, *don't* download executables from page 20 of a Google search - the good results are on page 1. Page 20 is full of traps and bears and "Danger, Will Robinson". When you asked the question, a poster with good reputation points answered your question with "Yes.", which means the experiment you are about to carry out, is highly likely to succeed. If there is something abnormal about your machine, you've broken a lot of subsystems while hacking the machine to death, the answer might well be "No.", but the thing is, you would then be responsible for any errant behaviors. When a person answers "Yes." like that, it means "yes, for an un-buggered machine". If you were attempting to use a 64-bit PE32+ version of some software, on an Android version of Windows 10, the answer is likely "No. For obvious reasons.". We always assume some level of common sense here when answering questions. Laboriously writing encyclopedic tomes covering every conceivable ****up (trying to run an EXE on a Windows 10-S machine), that's just not going to happen. If you want more strict answers, please include "winver" info and copy the descriptive version text from the System control panel. As this will aid answerers in identifying "the alligators ate it" cases. My Winver info:- Version 1909 (OS Build 18363.535) Awaiting the Tuesday update! On the Macintosh, your platform of choice, frequently the "era of software doesn't match your current OS version" is the root cause and the annoying part of finding software to work. For example, imagine you're running Sierra or something, and you go to wireshark.org and you look at their Macintosh download section. Nothing is labeled! You'll see 20 versions. Only two of those will run on your Mac (with it's particular MacOSX 10.x). Which two ? Who knows! That's what it's like trying to align Mac freeware with MacOSX version. Every Mac user is expected to go to Wireshark.org and play "matrix roulette" to find the right one to run. I've spent many unhappy hours trying to sort stuff like that. I invariably use the most up-to-date Mac OS that has been released for general use. The situation on Windows could be considered to be just as bad, except the most common use cases, work. There is less roulette required. (Nothing works for the dude on Win98, but you expect that.) For example, if I go to OldVersions and pick up an Imgburn from the collection, they're all likely to work. Each one will have different amounts of adware, and different file sizes. Only when someone has gone to considerable effort (Paint.Net) to make your life miserable, could it turn out otherwise. Testing. Testing. Testing. Rubber boots. Rubber gloves. Don't be in a rush. Don't click the wrong link. "Yes." ** Paul Thank you for taking so much trouble with your response, Paul. I really appreciate straightforward and honest answers here in Usenet. -- Kind regards, David |
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