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  #16  
Old November 18th 19, 08:49 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Panthera Tigris Altaica[_2_]
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Posts: 106
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 2019-11-17 18:32, David wrote:
Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms, contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.


Are you really deluded enough to think that someone would risk a
reputation which took _decades_ to build just to get you ejected from
ASC? In particular, that they would do anything at all when it is clear
that all that would be necessary would be to just let you be yourself,
and you'd be gone soon enough? You're _that_ delusional? Really?
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  #17  
Old November 18th 19, 11:59 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
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Posts: 41
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 18/11/2019 20:49, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-17 18:32, David wrote:
Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that
there *ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and
honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan, for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to to the rule which I have quoted.


Are you really deluded enough to think that someone would risk a
reputation which took _decades_ to build just to get you ejected from
ASC? In particular, that they would do anything at all when it is clear
that all that would be necessary would be to just let you be yourself,
and you'd be gone soon enough? You're _that_ delusional? Really?


I don't believe that I've had any interaction with Wolffan on the ASC
forums.

But I cannot be sure of that can I? He denies that the Wolffan persona
on ASC is him. There's no way for me to know. Odd coincidence though.

  #18  
Old November 19th 19, 04:10 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
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Posts: 7
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms, contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.


You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just to see if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_ know which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.


How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?

  #19  
Old November 19th 19, 05:11 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Char Jackson
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Posts: 10,449
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:10:49 +0000, David ! wrote:

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms, contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.


You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just to see if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_ know which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.


How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?


Your stalking has become somewhat less subtle over the years. You're losing
your edge.


--

Have you been approached by David Brooks (DB, ~DB~, and 50+ other nyms)?

To prevent yourself from being a victim of cyber
stalking, it's highly recommended that you visit he

https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
https://web.archive.org/web/20191103112509/https://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php
  #20  
Old November 19th 19, 05:47 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Shadow
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Posts: 1,638
Default *BD BANNED* on the ASC forums

On Tue, 19 Nov 2019 16:10:49 +0000, David ! wrote:

How many points have YOU accumulated


He said he wasn't interested in accumulating points. But that
was when you asked YESTERDAY.
You probably forgot.

---------------
BD: I want people to "get to know me better. I have nothing to
hide".
I'm always here to help, this page was put up at BD's request,
rather, he said "Do it *NOW*!":

http://tekrider.net/pages/david-brooks-stalker.php

60 confirmed #FAKE_NYMS, most used in cybercrimes!
Google "David Brooks Devon"
[]'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012
  #21  
Old November 20th 19, 02:58 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
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Posts: 25
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 20/11/2019 12:23, Wolffan wrote:
On 19 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms, contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.

You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just to see
if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_ know
which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.


How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?


1 they’re not illegal, as Apple KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM

2 a lot more than 250, none of which were obtained by voting for myself,
because I don’t care about points and even if I did, if I tried, as Apple
KNOWS ALL ABOUT MY ACCOUNTS doing that would be a really good way to lose
those accounts. Only a complete idiot would even think of trying that... oh.
wait. You _are_ a complete idiot. Carry on.


Wolffan, please do everyone a favour.

Please bring this article to the attention of the 'staff' at the Apple
Support Communities forums:-

https://blog.vanillaforums.com/commu...brand-advocacy

Long before the advent of modern inbound marketing, word-of-mouth was an
important factor in determining what brands people would spend their
money on. Now, as technology continues to develop, recommendations still
remain the centrepiece in most buying decisions in both B2B and B2C,
though it now takes place virtually, on the web.The rise of
user-generated content and its role in shaping purchase decisions has
made traditional marketing methods almost obsolete. Nowadays, people are
less interested in being advertised to, and instead, prefer to receive
unbiased recommendations. Moreover, people are willing to share their
own experiences, whether it be positive or negative, to help guide the
decisions of others. In other words, if someone loves a particular
product, they’ll likely spread the good word with or without an
incentive to do so.

As a result, online social communities have become a driving force
behind purchasing decisions in both the B2C and B2B sectors. Successful
marketing strategies are no longer in the hands of the brands behind
them – they’re now in the hands of users; and so, its important that you
keep up with and support this trend! Your primary focus should therefore
be on empowering your customers with the right tools (*ahhmmm* such as a
branded community) to become brand advocates for your organization.

Online communities to help encourage brand advocacy since they support
ongoing dialogue (engagement), real-time feedback and even incorporate a
bit of fun in the form of gamification or viral memes.

There are many different ways to inspire brand advocacy, but in this
article, we’ll take a closer look at the role of online communities in
creating and empowering brand advocates.

Laying the Foundations for a Successful Online Community
The first step in building a brand advocacy campaign is knowing who is
likely to become a brand ambassador — the right candidate to recommend
your brand, products and services to others. To give the simplest
explanation, it’s anyone who is satisfied enough with the value you
offer to spread the word.

Behind every brand advocacy program is, of course, a solid product or
service. Just think about how popular Apple products are; it’s not so
much because of the advertising, but because they have one of the
biggest brand advocacy communities of any consumer product in the world.
In other words, people don’t buy the latest iPhone because they’ve seen
a billboard by the side of the road or even a banner on a website; they
buy it because it’s an industry standard with an immense following.

================================================== ================


This morning, another senior member of the *Apple* support staff
emphasised to me, once again, that the ASC forum is *NOT* an Apple site
and is *NOT* run by Apple.

With regard to me being 'banned' he suggested ...... "Just reinvent
yourself using another 'nym if you REALLY want to read and post there!"

I'd prefer not to have to do that, but I suppose I /could/ behave just
like Wolffan, eh?!! ;-)


  #22  
Old November 20th 19, 05:54 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Panthera Tigris Altaica[_2_]
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Posts: 106
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 2019-11-18 18:59, David wrote:
On 18/11/2019 20:49, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-17 18:32, David wrote:
Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules
expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that
there *ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and
honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan, for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to to the rule which I have quoted.


Are you really deluded enough to think that someone would risk a
reputation which took _decades_ to build just to get you ejected from
ASC? In particular, that they would do anything at all when it is
clear that all that would be necessary would be to just let you be
yourself, and you'd be gone soon enough? You're _that_ delusional?
Really?


I don't believe that I've had any interaction with Wolffan on the ASC
forums.


Irrelevant. You seem to be under the impression that he is doing
something you can get stopped. He's been there, according to posts here
and elsewhere, well over 20 years, using the same accounts. If Apple
cared they would have done something about it more than two decades ago.
They are quite unlikely to do anything to someone who has been a
considerably more valued than you contributor to their fora just because
you are annoyed with him.


But I cannot be sure of that can I?


And this is the nub of your problem. You lack information you think,
incorrectly, that you are entitled to. Your giant overinflated ego is
again highly visible.


He denies that the Wolffan persona
on ASC is him.


As he pointed out, there are many who use wolffan or something close. I
know of at least four. He uses akwolffan in large part because he is on
another site I go to where there is a flwolffan and a lawolffan. It's a
bloody common nym.

There's no way for me to know. Odd coincidence though.


And it is simply none of your business.
  #23  
Old November 20th 19, 06:02 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Panthera Tigris Altaica[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 106
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 2019-11-20 09:58, David wrote:
On 20/11/2019 12:23, Wolffan wrote:
On 19 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules
expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that
there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and honest
manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.

You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just
to see
if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and
when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for
them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_ know
which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.

How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?


1 they’re not illegal, as Apple KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM

2 a lot more than 250, none of which were obtained by voting for myself,
because I don’t care about points and even if I did, if I tried, as Apple
KNOWS ALL ABOUT MY ACCOUNTS doing that would be a really good way to lose
those accounts. Only a complete idiot would even think of trying
that... oh.
wait. You _are_ a complete idiot. Carry on.


Wolffan, please do everyone a favour.

Please bring this article to the attention of the 'staff' at the Apple
Support Communities forums:-

https://blog.vanillaforums.com/commu...brand-advocacy


Long before the advent of modern inbound marketing, word-of-mouth was an
important factor inÂ* determining what brands people would spend their
money on. Now, as technology continues to develop, recommendations still
remain the centrepiece in most buying decisions in both B2B and B2C,
though it now takes place virtually, on the web.The rise of
user-generated content and its role in shaping purchase decisions has
made traditional marketing methods almost obsolete. Nowadays, people are
less interested in being advertised to, and instead, prefer to receive
unbiased recommendations. Moreover, people are willing to share their
own experiences, whether it be positive or negative, to help guide the
decisions of others. In other words, if someone loves a particular
product, they’ll likely spread the good word with or without an
incentive to do so.

As a result, online social communities have become a driving force
behind purchasing decisions in both the B2C and B2B sectors. Successful
marketing strategies are no longer in the hands of the brands behind
them – they’re now in the hands of users; and so, its important that you
keep up with and support this trend! Your primary focus should therefore
be on empowering your customers with the right tools (*ahhmmm* such as a
branded community) to become brand advocates for your organization.

Online communities to help encourage brand advocacy since they support
ongoing dialogue (engagement), real-time feedback and even incorporate a
bit of fun in the form of gamification or viral memes.

There are many different ways to inspire brand advocacy, but in this
article, we’ll take a closer look at the role of online communities in
creating and empowering brand advocates.

Laying the Foundations for a Successful Online Community
The first step in building a brand advocacy campaign is knowing who is
likely to become a brand ambassador — the right candidate to recommend
your brand, products and services to others. To give the simplest
explanation, it’s anyone who is satisfied enough with the value you
offer to spread the word.

Behind every brand advocacy program is, of course, a solid product or
service. Just think about how popular Apple products are; it’s not so
much because of the advertising, but because they have one of the
biggest brand advocacy communities of any consumer product in the world.
In other words, people don’t buy the latest iPhone because they’ve seen
a billboard by the side of the road or even a banner on a website; they
buy it because it’s an industry standard with an immense following.

================================================== ================


This morning, another senior member of the *Apple* support staff
emphasised to me, once again, that the ASC forum is *NOT* an Apple site
and is *NOT* run by Apple.

With regard to me being 'banned' he suggested ...... "Just reinvent
yourself using another 'nym if you REALLY want to read and post there!"


I don't believe you.


I'd prefer not to have to do that, but I suppose I /could/ behave just
like Wolffan, eh?!! ;-)



Unlike him, you'll just get banned again, only faster this time. You
will be nymshifting to avoid a ban. Once detected, and you will be
detected, there will be moderators looking for you especially once I
forward this post to them, you will be instantly banned. And every new
nym you come up with will be banned as soon as it is detected. Virtually
the only way for you to avoid detection would be if you behaved
yourself, and did not attempt to troll about EtreCheck, ClamXAV, or any
of your stalking targets. As soon as you started your normal trolling,
you would out yourself and would be checked out and banned.

Wolffan is not posting criminal libel. You are. Wolffan has been posting
for over 20 years without being banned. You can't stay on a site without
being banned.
  #24  
Old November 20th 19, 07:39 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 25
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 20/11/2019 18:02, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-20 09:58, David wrote:
On 20/11/2019 12:23, Wolffan wrote:
On 19 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules
expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that
there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and
honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.

You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just
to see
if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and
when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for
them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_
know
which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.

How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?

1 they’re not illegal, as Apple KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM

2 a lot more than 250, none of which were obtained by voting for myself,
because I don’t care about points and even if I did, if I tried, as
Apple
KNOWS ALL ABOUT MY ACCOUNTS doing that would be a really good way to
lose
those accounts. Only a complete idiot would even think of trying
that... oh.
wait. You _are_ a complete idiot. Carry on.


Wolffan, please do everyone a favour.

Please bring this article to the attention of the 'staff' at the Apple
Support Communities forums:-

https://blog.vanillaforums.com/commu...brand-advocacy


Long before the advent of modern inbound marketing, word-of-mouth was
an important factor inÂ* determining what brands people would spend
their money on. Now, as technology continues to develop,
recommendations still remain the centrepiece in most buying decisions
in both B2B and B2C, though it now takes place virtually, on the
web.The rise of user-generated content and its role in shaping
purchase decisions has made traditional marketing methods almost
obsolete. Nowadays, people are less interested in being advertised to,
and instead, prefer to receive unbiased recommendations. Moreover,
people are willing to share their own experiences, whether it be
positive or negative, to help guide the decisions of others. In other
words, if someone loves a particular product, they’ll likely spread
the good word with or without an incentive to do so.

As a result, online social communities have become a driving force
behind purchasing decisions in both the B2C and B2B sectors.
Successful marketing strategies are no longer in the hands of the
brands behind them – they’re now in the hands of users; and so, its
important that you keep up with and support this trend! Your primary
focus should therefore be on empowering your customers with the right
tools (*ahhmmm* such as a branded community) to become brand advocates
for your organization.

Online communities to help encourage brand advocacy since they support
ongoing dialogue (engagement), real-time feedback and even incorporate
a bit of fun in the form of gamification or viral memes.

There are many different ways to inspire brand advocacy, but in this
article, we’ll take a closer look at the role of online communities in
creating and empowering brand advocates.

Laying the Foundations for a Successful Online Community
The first step in building a brand advocacy campaign is knowing who is
likely to become a brand ambassador — the right candidate to recommend
your brand, products and services to others. To give the simplest
explanation, it’s anyone who is satisfied enough with the value you
offer to spread the word.

Behind every brand advocacy program is, of course, a solid product or
service. Just think about how popular Apple products are; it’s not so
much because of the advertising, but because they have one of the
biggest brand advocacy communities of any consumer product in the
world. In other words, people don’t buy the latest iPhone because
they’ve seen a billboard by the side of the road or even a banner on a
website; they buy it because it’s an industry standard with an immense
following.

================================================== ================


This morning, another senior member of the *Apple* support staff
emphasised to me, once again, that the ASC forum is *NOT* an Apple
site and is *NOT* run by Apple.

With regard to me being 'banned' he suggested ...... "Just reinvent
yourself using another 'nym if you REALLY want to read and post there!"


I don't believe you.


I'd prefer not to have to do that, but I suppose I /could/ behave just
like Wolffan, eh?!! ;-)



Unlike him, you'll just get banned again, only faster this time. You
will be nymshifting to avoid a ban. Once detected, and you will be
detected, there will be moderators looking for you especially once I
forward this post to them, you will be instantly banned. And every new
nym you come up with will be banned as soon as it is detected. Virtually
the only way for you to avoid detection would be if you behaved
yourself, and did not attempt to troll about EtreCheck, ClamXAV, or any
of your stalking targets. As soon as you started your normal trolling,
you would out yourself and would be checked out and banned.

Wolffan is not posting criminal libel. You are. Wolffan has been posting
for over 20 years without being banned. You can't stay on a site without
being banned.


Perhaps he's not concerned about the bad guy, huh? Maybe he (Wolffan)
*IS* one - maybe!

Did you notice that JD (Etresoft) is looking for a job? Look carefully:-

https://postimg.cc/F1NnxVTM
  #25  
Old November 20th 19, 07:47 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
Panthera Tigris Altaica[_2_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 106
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 2019-11-20 14:39, David wrote:
On 20/11/2019 18:02, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-20 09:58, David wrote:
On 20/11/2019 12:23, Wolffan wrote:
On 19 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC
rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more -
that there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and
honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.

You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did
just to see
if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and
when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for
them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_
know
which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.

How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?

1 they’re not illegal, as Apple KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM

2 a lot more than 250, none of which were obtained by voting for
myself,
because I don’t care about points and even if I did, if I tried, as
Apple
KNOWS ALL ABOUT MY ACCOUNTS doing that would be a really good way to
lose
those accounts. Only a complete idiot would even think of trying
that... oh.
wait. You _are_ a complete idiot. Carry on.

Wolffan, please do everyone a favour.

Please bring this article to the attention of the 'staff' at the
Apple Support Communities forums:-

https://blog.vanillaforums.com/commu...brand-advocacy


Long before the advent of modern inbound marketing, word-of-mouth was
an important factor inÂ* determining what brands people would spend
their money on. Now, as technology continues to develop,
recommendations still remain the centrepiece in most buying decisions
in both B2B and B2C, though it now takes place virtually, on the
web.The rise of user-generated content and its role in shaping
purchase decisions has made traditional marketing methods almost
obsolete. Nowadays, people are less interested in being advertised
to, and instead, prefer to receive unbiased recommendations.
Moreover, people are willing to share their own experiences, whether
it be positive or negative, to help guide the decisions of others. In
other words, if someone loves a particular product, they’ll likely
spread the good word with or without an incentive to do so.

As a result, online social communities have become a driving force
behind purchasing decisions in both the B2C and B2B sectors.
Successful marketing strategies are no longer in the hands of the
brands behind them – they’re now in the hands of users; and so, its
important that you keep up with and support this trend! Your primary
focus should therefore be on empowering your customers with the right
tools (*ahhmmm* such as a branded community) to become brand
advocates for your organization.

Online communities to help encourage brand advocacy since they
support ongoing dialogue (engagement), real-time feedback and even
incorporate a bit of fun in the form of gamification or viral memes.

There are many different ways to inspire brand advocacy, but in this
article, we’ll take a closer look at the role of online communities
in creating and empowering brand advocates.

Laying the Foundations for a Successful Online Community
The first step in building a brand advocacy campaign is knowing who
is likely to become a brand ambassador — the right candidate to
recommend your brand, products and services to others. To give the
simplest explanation, it’s anyone who is satisfied enough with the
value you offer to spread the word.

Behind every brand advocacy program is, of course, a solid product or
service. Just think about how popular Apple products are; it’s not so
much because of the advertising, but because they have one of the
biggest brand advocacy communities of any consumer product in the
world. In other words, people don’t buy the latest iPhone because
they’ve seen a billboard by the side of the road or even a banner on
a website; they buy it because it’s an industry standard with an
immense following.

================================================== ================


This morning, another senior member of the *Apple* support staff
emphasised to me, once again, that the ASC forum is *NOT* an Apple
site and is *NOT* run by Apple.

With regard to me being 'banned' he suggested ...... "Just reinvent
yourself using another 'nym if you REALLY want to read and post there!"


I don't believe you.


I'd prefer not to have to do that, but I suppose I /could/ behave
just like Wolffan, eh?!! ;-)



Unlike him, you'll just get banned again, only faster this time. You
will be nymshifting to avoid a ban. Once detected, and you will be
detected, there will be moderators looking for you especially once I
forward this post to them, you will be instantly banned. And every new
nym you come up with will be banned as soon as it is detected.
Virtually the only way for you to avoid detection would be if you
behaved yourself, and did not attempt to troll about EtreCheck,
ClamXAV, or any of your stalking targets. As soon as you started your
normal trolling, you would out yourself and would be checked out and
banned.

Wolffan is not posting criminal libel. You are. Wolffan has been
posting for over 20 years without being banned. You can't stay on a
site without being banned.


Perhaps he's not concerned about the bad guy,


You are the bad guy.


huh? Maybe he (Wolffan)
*IS* one - maybe!


More libel without anything even resembling any evidence. Keep digging.


Did you notice that JD (Etresoft) is looking for a job? Look carefully:-

https://postimg.cc/F1NnxVTM


Irrelevant.
  #26  
Old November 21st 19, 01:37 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop
Wolffan[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 224
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 20 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 20/11/2019 12:23, Wolffan wrote:
On 19 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and honest
manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms, contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.

You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just to see
if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and when,
and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_ know
which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.

How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?


1 they’re not illegal, as Apple KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM

2 a lot more than 250, none of which were obtained by voting for myself,
because I don’t care about points and even if I did, if I tried, as Apple
KNOWS ALL ABOUT MY ACCOUNTS doing that would be a really good way to lose
those accounts. Only a complete idiot would even think of trying that... oh.
wait. You _are_ a complete idiot. Carry on.


Wolffan, please do everyone a favour.

Please bring this article to the attention of the 'staff' at the Apple
Support Communities forums:-


Why would I do anything whatsoever for a lying, trolling, stalking,
slandering, subhuman, paedophile, alcoholic, arsenugget?



With regard to me being 'banned' he suggested ...... "Just reinvent
yourself using another 'nym if you REALLY want to read and post there!"


do that little thing. You’ll get rebanned.



I'd prefer not to have to do that, but I suppose I /could/ behave just
like Wolffan, eh?!! ;-)


You’re an idiot. There is a considerable difference between having had
multiple accounts for decades without once having been warned much less
banned and creating a fraudulent account to evade a ban. I will be bringing
your stated intent to avoid your permaban to the attention of the mods.
They’ll be looking for you.

  #27  
Old November 21st 19, 01:39 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop
Wolffan[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 224
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 20 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 20/11/2019 18:02, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-20 09:58, David wrote:
On 20/11/2019 12:23, Wolffan wrote:
On 19 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 17/11/2019 23:43, Wolffan wrote:
On 17 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules
expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that
there
*ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and
honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan,
for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to
to the rule which I have quoted.

You’re an idiot. I’ve had multiple IDs for decades; I also haven’t
logged in to some of them for years... until today, when I did just
to see
if
they still work. They do. Apple will know which IDs logged in, and
when, and
where they logged into, and what they did. It would be trivial for
them to
see that I was, umm, ‘gaming the system’. And just as trivial to see
that, unlike you, I have not done anything of the sort. And _they_
know
which
IDs are mine, so they can track it.

How many points have YOU accumulated under *each one* of your illegal
Apple IDs, Wolffan?

1 they’re not illegal, as Apple KNOWS ALL ABOUT THEM

2 a lot more than 250, none of which were obtained by voting for myself,
because I don’t care about points and even if I did, if I tried, as
Apple
KNOWS ALL ABOUT MY ACCOUNTS doing that would be a really good way to
lose
those accounts. Only a complete idiot would even think of trying
that... oh.
wait. You _are_ a complete idiot. Carry on.

Wolffan, please do everyone a favour.

Please bring this article to the attention of the 'staff' at the Apple
Support Communities forums:-

https://blog.vanillaforums.com/commu...es-inspire-bra
nd-advocacy


Long before the advent of modern inbound marketing, word-of-mouth was
an important factor in determining what brands people would spend
their money on. Now, as technology continues to develop,
recommendations still remain the centrepiece in most buying decisions
in both B2B and B2C, though it now takes place virtually, on the
web.The rise of user-generated content and its role in shaping
purchase decisions has made traditional marketing methods almost
obsolete. Nowadays, people are less interested in being advertised to,
and instead, prefer to receive unbiased recommendations. Moreover,
people are willing to share their own experiences, whether it be
positive or negative, to help guide the decisions of others. In other
words, if someone loves a particular product, they’ll likely spread
the good word with or without an incentive to do so.

As a result, online social communities have become a driving force
behind purchasing decisions in both the B2C and B2B sectors.
Successful marketing strategies are no longer in the hands of the
brands behind them – they’re now in the hands of users; and so, its
important that you keep up with and support this trend! Your primary
focus should therefore be on empowering your customers with the right
tools (*ahhmmm* such as a branded community) to become brand advocates
for your organization.

Online communities to help encourage brand advocacy since they support
ongoing dialogue (engagement), real-time feedback and even incorporate
a bit of fun in the form of gamification or viral memes.

There are many different ways to inspire brand advocacy, but in this
article, we’ll take a closer look at the role of online communities in
creating and empowering brand advocates.

Laying the Foundations for a Successful Online Community
The first step in building a brand advocacy campaign is knowing who is
likely to become a brand ambassador — the right candidate to recommend
your brand, products and services to others. To give the simplest
explanation, it’s anyone who is satisfied enough with the value you
offer to spread the word.

Behind every brand advocacy program is, of course, a solid product or
service. Just think about how popular Apple products are; it’s not so
much because of the advertising, but because they have one of the
biggest brand advocacy communities of any consumer product in the
world. In other words, people don’t buy the latest iPhone because
they’ve seen a billboard by the side of the road or even a banner on a
website; they buy it because it’s an industry standard with an immense
following.

================================================== ================


This morning, another senior member of the *Apple* support staff
emphasised to me, once again, that the ASC forum is *NOT* an Apple
site and is *NOT* run by Apple.

With regard to me being 'banned' he suggested ...... "Just reinvent
yourself using another 'nym if you REALLY want to read and post there!"


I don't believe you.


I'd prefer not to have to do that, but I suppose I /could/ behave just
like Wolffan, eh?!! ;-)


Unlike him, you'll just get banned again, only faster this time. You
will be nymshifting to avoid a ban. Once detected, and you will be
detected, there will be moderators looking for you especially once I
forward this post to them, you will be instantly banned. And every new
nym you come up with will be banned as soon as it is detected. Virtually
the only way for you to avoid detection would be if you behaved
yourself, and did not attempt to troll about EtreCheck, ClamXAV, or any
of your stalking targets. As soon as you started your normal trolling,
you would out yourself and would be checked out and banned.

Wolffan is not posting criminal libel. You are. Wolffan has been posting
for over 20 years without being banned. You can't stay on a site without
being banned.


Perhaps he's not concerned about the bad guy, huh? Maybe he (Wolffan)
*IS* one - maybe!


And you can’t post one sentance without showing that you’re a lying
slandering subhuman arsenugget.


Did you notice that JD (Etresoft) is looking for a job? Look carefully:-


stalking again. not a surprise.

  #28  
Old November 21st 19, 01:49 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac, alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.workshop
Wolffan[_3_]
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 224
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 18 Nov 2019, David wrote
(in article ):

On 18/11/2019 20:49, Panthera Tigris Altaica wrote:
On 2019-11-17 18:32, David wrote:
Char Jackson asked:-

"How ironic that you would only become a self-proclaimed ASC rules expert
AFTER you got yourself banned. Why weren't you able to read and
understand
the rules before it impacted you?"

=

It was important to me to prove - to myself if nothing more - that
there *ARE* folk on the ASC who are not 'moderating' in a fair and
honest manner.

It was also necessary for me to gain evidence that folk - like
Wolffan, for instance - post under a number of different pseudonyms,
contrary to to the rule which I have quoted.


Are you really deluded enough to think that someone would risk a
reputation which took _decades_ to build just to get you ejected from
ASC? In particular, that they would do anything at all when it is clear
that all that would be necessary would be to just let you be yourself,
and you'd be gone soon enough? You're _that_ delusional? Really?


I don't believe that I've had any interaction with Wolffan on the ASC
forums.


You’re an idiot. You’re completely ****ing clueless. You want to
‘gather evidence’ when you have no ****ing idea which accounts I use or
which forums I go to. Hint for the hopeless: as I have multiple machines and
each has multiple browsers, I go to different forums using specific browsers
from specific machines. I don’t ‘game the system’ because I don’t
access forums used by other accounts, so I _can’t_ mess with their precious
points. Apple knows this. Any ‘interaction’ you may/may not have had with
any of my accounts on ASC would depend on whether or not you blundered into a
forum I was active on. As you’re clueless, always were and always will be
you will never know.


But I cannot be sure of that can I? He denies that the Wolffan persona
on ASC is him.


Because it’s not. You’re free to attempt to harass him... Oh. Wait. You
_can’t_, you’re banned for being an arsenugget.

There's no way for me to know.


and it burns you.

Odd coincidence though.


Nah. ‘Wolffan’ is a damn common nym.

  #29  
Old November 21st 19, 02:45 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 25
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 21/11/2019 13:37, Wolffan wrote:
I will be bringing
your stated intent to avoid your permaban to the attention of the mods.


How on earth could a cheapskate like you manage to do that?!!!

Do you know them personally?

What are their names?!!!
  #30  
Old November 21st 19, 02:49 PM posted to uk.comp.sys.mac,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.computer.workshop
David
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 25
Default Starting out on the ASC forums

On 21/11/2019 13:49, Wolffan wrote:
‘Wolffan’ is a damn common nym.


Hence "Cheapskate" - 'common as muck' as they say! :-P
 




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