Windows 7 vulnerability

"Jeff Layman" wrote in
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"Alias" wrote in
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Jeff Layman wrote:
But it is new and almost specific to Windows 7. And I'd
rather read it ten times in different places than not at
all.

And this isn't a forum - it's a newsgroup.


Where top posting -- especially with a delimiter -- is
frowned upon.


True, and I reply with bottom posting except where the
reply to the OP has been made with top posting. It makes
little sense to respond to that reply with bottom posting,
effectively splitting the message into a nonsense order
where you want to keep all the message information.

That's a good point, as the poster that did the top-post in
the first place is most likely expecting that.

I think the bigger issue was that MS Live Mail put the quoted
text below the delimiter. As you can see, the OPs context is
now lost because a compliant newsreader does not include the
OPs sig & delimiter when you select 'Reply' or 'Followup', as
I did here or Alias did before.

Instead of splitting the message, it deletes the text of the
original message. So if that was important info that may be of
use in a later post in the same thread, you would need to go
back and re-read messages to find the missing info.

(This is just FYI. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not
defending anyone, my 'panties arent in a bunch', or whatever
other sayings some persons may use to personally attack me.)

"DanS" wrote in message
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in
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True, and I reply with bottom posting except where the
reply to the OP has been made with top posting. It makes
little sense to respond to that reply with bottom posting,
effectively splitting the message into a nonsense order
where you want to keep all the message information.

That's a good point, as the poster that did the top-post in
the first place is most likely expecting that.

Indeed. If you top post, most likely that's your default, and you either
want it that way, don't know the difference, or don't know/care about the
convention.

I think the bigger issue was that MS Live Mail put the quoted
text below the delimiter. As you can see, the OPs context is
now lost because a compliant newsreader does not include the
OPs sig & delimiter when you select 'Reply' or 'Followup', as
I did here or Alias did before.

Still, at least WLM offers the option of top or bottom posting, whereas OE
didn't, and Quotefix was required for automatic bottom-posting.

Instead of splitting the message, it deletes the text of the
original message. So if that was important info that may be of
use in a later post in the same thread, you would need to go
back and re-read messages to find the missing info.

(This is just FYI. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not
defending anyone, my 'panties arent in a bunch', or whatever
other sayings some persons may use to personally attack me.)

How very true... ;-)))

--

Jeff

DanS wrote:

(This is just FYI. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not
defending anyone, my 'panties arent in a bunch', or whatever
other sayings some persons may use to personally attack me.)

How about 'Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of
elderberries'?

http://pythonline.com/youtube_archive/french-taunter


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"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
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"DanS" wrote in message
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"Jeff Layman" wrote in
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True, and I reply with bottom posting except where the
reply to the OP has been made with top posting. It makes
little sense to respond to that reply with bottom posting,
effectively splitting the message into a nonsense order
where you want to keep all the message information.

That's a good point, as the poster that did the top-post in
the first place is most likely expecting that.

Indeed. If you top post, most likely that's your default, and you either
want it that way, don't know the difference, or don't know/care about the
convention.

I think the bigger issue was that MS Live Mail put the quoted
text below the delimiter. As you can see, the OPs context is
now lost because a compliant newsreader does not include the
OPs sig & delimiter when you select 'Reply' or 'Followup', as
I did here or Alias did before.

Still, at least WLM offers the option of top or bottom posting, whereas OE
didn't, and Quotefix was required for automatic bottom-posting.

Instead of splitting the message, it deletes the text of the
original message. So if that was important info that may be of
use in a later post in the same thread, you would need to go
back and re-read messages to find the missing info.

(This is just FYI. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not
defending anyone, my 'panties arent in a bunch', or whatever
other sayings some persons may use to personally attack me.)

How very true... ;-)))

--

Jeff



Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't let
either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng with rants
about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better to do than look
for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to start with.
HTH,
Dave

"Dave" wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't let
either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng with
rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better to do than
look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area that
flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had 3.1/NT4/XP
for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still undecided as to
whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...

--

Jeff

Jeff Layman wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't
let either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng
with rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better
to do than look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to
start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area
that flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had
3.1/NT4/XP for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still
undecided as to whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...


He's not. Microsoft became the Home of the Trolls when Steve "Monkey
Man" Ballmer took over. Had Gates stayed with the company, Microsoft
would have a much better future.

--
Alias

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the
group. Don't let either of them get to you, they constantly
try to disrupt the ng with rants about Unix and now it
looks like they have nothing better to do than look for
netiquette, when they don't know what it is to start with.

I hope you are not including me in that grouping of 'either', as

1) I do nothing to disrupt this group. Any posts I make are in
threads started by others, and usually several levels deep at
least.

2) I've never raved anything about Unix.

3) I've never made any wild claims about Linux superiority over
Windows, or how it's going to take over or anything like that.
The only thing I ever say is superior is the fact that while
using Linux, my PC isn't going to be infected with the couple
hundred thousand Windows malware/trojan/worm packages.

4) My typical post about Linux is just correcting mis-
information about it stated by others, in threads that are
already OT by others, (and usually several levels deep).

5) My comment in this thread about all text following the
delimiter not being included in followups was not me 'looking
for netiquette'. The topic was already netiquette there, and I
merely added a detail that many don't realize happens.

On 5/21/2010 9:02 AM, Alias wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't
let either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng
with rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better
to do than look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to
start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area
that flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had
3.1/NT4/XP for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still
undecided as to whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...


He's not. Microsoft became the Home of the Trolls when Steve "Monkey
Man" Ballmer took over. Had Gates stayed with the company, Microsoft
would have a much better future.

This from a lying linturd pimp!

"Jeff Layman" wrote in message
...
"Dave" wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't let
either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng with
rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better to do
than look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area that
flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had
3.1/NT4/XP for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still undecided
as to whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...

--

Jeff

Whatever he is, he is rich. Pretty generous too, as I understand it he gives
away almost 50% of what he makes to charities, including his own.
Dave

On 5/21/2010 9:02 AM, Alias wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't
let either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng
with rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better
to do than look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to
start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area
that flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had
3.1/NT4/XP for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still
undecided as to whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...


He's not. Microsoft became the Home of the Trolls when Steve "Monkey
Man" Ballmer took over. Had Gates stayed with the company, Microsoft
would have a much better future.


You are really jealous of Steve Ballmer, aren't you? You calling him
"monkey man" is rather ironic seeing as how you are a "sheep-****er".
Oops!

On 05/20/10 11:48, XS11E wrote:
wrote:

(This is just FYI. I don't care one way or the other. I'm not
defending anyone, my 'panties arent in a bunch', or whatever
other sayings some persons may use to personally attack me.)

How about 'Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of
elderberries'?

http://pythonline.com/youtube_archive/french-taunter

"Now go away or I shall taunt you again!"

On Fri, 21 May 2010 18:02:41 +0200, Alias
wrote:

Jeff Layman wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't
let either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng
with rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better
to do than look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to
start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area
that flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had
3.1/NT4/XP for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still
undecided as to whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...


He's not. Microsoft became the Home of the Trolls when Steve "Monkey
Man" Ballmer took over. Had Gates stayed with the company, Microsoft
would have a much better future.


You really don't know much do you? Ballmer didn't "take over" he was
simply allowed to run things on a day to day basis to let the Top Dog
drive around doing what likes instead of having to come in the office
every morning and sort out problems.

Has Steve divested himself of the billion shares of Microsoft shares ?
John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

On 05/22/2010 06:45 AM, John B. Slocomb wrote:
On Fri, 21 May 2010 18:02:41 +0200, Alias
wrote:

Jeff Layman wrote:
wrote in message
...

Jeff,
Haven't seen you post much so I assume you're new to the group. Don't
let either of them get to you, they constantly try to disrupt the ng
with rants about Unix and now it looks like they have nothing better
to do than look for netiquette, when they don't know what it is to
start with.
HTH,
Dave

You mean you haven't got a Troll Alarm icon in the Notification Area
that flashes when one is detected? I thought everyone had one. ;-)))

I've had Win7 only a few months, but have made a few posts. Had
3.1/NT4/XP for many years, so trolls are nothing new. I'm still
undecided as to whether or not Bill Gates is a troll...


He's not. Microsoft became the Home of the Trolls when Steve "Monkey
Man" Ballmer took over. Had Gates stayed with the company, Microsoft
would have a much better future.


You really don't know much do you? Ballmer didn't "take over" he was
simply allowed to run things on a day to day basis to let the Top Dog
drive around doing what likes instead of having to come in the office
every morning and sort out problems.

You've just confirmed what I said.


Has Steve divested himself of the billion shares of Microsoft shares ?
John B. Slocomb
(johnbslocombatgmaildotcom)

I wouldn't know nor did I bring it up.


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Alias