How to remove prompt "Upgrade to Windows 10" ?

On 12-Oct-15 2:12 PM, . . .winston wrote:

[cut because "too many quoted lines"]

Option 1: (simplest)
•Cancel the Win10 Reservation (applicable if reserved)
•Uninstall 3035583 and 2952664
•Run WU manually and Continue to hide both KB's
•Delete ~BTS and ~WS folders if present

Option 2:
•Cancel Reservation via GWX app (applicable if reserved)
•Uninstall the two KBs
•Restart/Run Windows Update/Hide the two KBs
•Stop Wuaserv
•Delete BTS and WS folders
•Rename Software Distribution (optional) [1]-see note at end
•Start Wuaserv
•Run WU manually
•Continue to hide 3035583 and 2952664

Option 3: Windows 7 Sp1 Pro only
•Same as Option 2 plus Group Policy (GPO) for added robustness to
prevent an o/s upgrade via policy
•Run GPO (gpedit.msc)/Computer Configuration/Administrative
Templates/Windows Components/Windows Update
•Navigate to, double click and enable: 'Turn off the upgrade to the
latest version of Windows through Windows Update'

[1] For Option 2 - Instead of renaming Software Distribution, optionally
one can:

a. Run Windows 7 Troubleshooter

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...#1TC=windows-7

or

b. Reset Windows Update components

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971058

**Ensure after using either of these methods that if you desire for
Windows Update to be in notify mode that 'Notify' mode is done
immediately after using either of these, since they both reset Windows
Update to its default settings.

Thanks for comprehensive response.

On 10/12/2015 1:07 AM, Vico T wrote:
On 12-Oct-15 9:17 AM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:
On 10/11/2015 7:03 PM, Vico T wrote:
On 11-Oct-15 9:22 PM, GlowingBlueMist wrote:

http://blog.ultimateoutsider.com/201...ly-remove.html


Thanks for the link.
How can I be sure Windows 10 has not been downloaded into some 'hidden'
folder to my pc?

The GBX Control program looks for the download folder and if you give it
permission it will delete it.

I decided using GWX_control_panel.
Information in GWX Control Panel:-
Is 'Get Windows 10' app running? (App not found.)
Is 'Get Windows 10' app enabled? (App not found.)
Are Windows Updates OS enabled? No.
Windows 10 Download folder found? No.
Folder size: (not found)

The buttons Start 'Get Windows 10' App (temporarily display icon)
and
Enable 'Get Windows 10' App (permanently restore icon)
are greyed-out.

I Disabled Operating System Upgrades in Windows Update and rebooted the pc.

Good news---The "Upgrade to Windows 10" has finally disappeared but the
two (2) KB3035583) are still in "Restore hidden updates".

Would you have a solution to removing permanently items placed in
"Restore hidden updates"?

It's been a while but I had run all those updates people were hiding and
let Windows think things were ready for upgrading, then I run the GWX
Control panel program again and it turned off the Icon and using the
menu items it blocked the upgrade and removed the Icon.

I think you might be over thinking the problem. It don't matter if
those updates get run as long as you have a program like GWX Control
panel looking for and killing the repeated upgrade attempts by
Microsoft. Just my opinion but I have found it simpler to let the
system run the updates and let the GWX program kill what it needed to.

On 10/12/2015 3:56 AM, Vico T wrote:
On 12-Oct-15 2:12 PM, . . .winston wrote:

[cut because "too many quoted lines"]

Option 1: (simplest)
•Cancel the Win10 Reservation (applicable if reserved)
•Uninstall 3035583 and 2952664
•Run WU manually and Continue to hide both KB's
•Delete ~BTS and ~WS folders if present

Option 2:
•Cancel Reservation via GWX app (applicable if reserved)
•Uninstall the two KBs
•Restart/Run Windows Update/Hide the two KBs
•Stop Wuaserv
•Delete BTS and WS folders
•Rename Software Distribution (optional) [1]-see note at end
•Start Wuaserv
•Run WU manually
•Continue to hide 3035583 and 2952664

Option 3: Windows 7 Sp1 Pro only
•Same as Option 2 plus Group Policy (GPO) for added robustness to
prevent an o/s upgrade via policy
•Run GPO (gpedit.msc)/Computer Configuration/Administrative
Templates/Windows Components/Windows Update
•Navigate to, double click and enable: 'Turn off the upgrade to the
latest version of Windows through Windows Update'

[1] For Option 2 - Instead of renaming Software Distribution, optionally
one can:

a. Run Windows 7 Troubleshooter

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...#1TC=windows-7

or

b. Reset Windows Update components

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971058

**Ensure after using either of these methods that if you desire for
Windows Update to be in notify mode that 'Notify' mode is done
immediately after using either of these, since they both reset Windows
Update to its default settings.

Thanks for comprehensive response.


Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10

Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10

I think users want to feel they're in control
of their own machine.

They've been trained (the hard way) to deal
with malware.

And this current campaign from Microsoft, from
a user perspective (amount of work required), is
a lot like dealing with malware. It's a lot like
getting rid of that toolbar you never asked for.

I would be less concerned about this whole charade,
if the removal process (return to qualifying OS)
was trouble free. But the evidence seems to be,
it is not trouble free. And that makes it all the
more obnoxious (for those people who will be
dragging their Win10 PC to Geek Squad to have
the damage undone).

I've "lashed down" my own OSes here, but that
doesn't mean my methodology is "best practice".
So here, the problem is merely bandaided, not
properly dealt with.

It was also disheartening, to discover the HOST
file has "holes" in it. And cannot be trusted
as a filtering mechanism. So one side effect of
this stuff, is learning more about how things
really work.

Paul

On 10/12/2015 10:41 AM, Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:44:25 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10

Yeah, I don't know about that! ;-)

Word is, US DoD is avoiding 10 like that disease. Admittedly, they are making a concerted effort to migrate
to Linux, but they still have many Windows boxes.


Well I agree that privacy is a big issue for a lot of people, and there
has been so much talk of it that a lot people are scared of it.
Personally I have configured it to my liking and there is nothing on my
system that MS wants, There is no financial info of any kind nor do I do
any online banking. If they want my name and address and other mundane
info they can have it, no skin off my elbow.
Talking about Linux, Out of boredom I installed Mint 17.2 KDE on a spare
SSD and was pleasantly surprised to have it run complete with sound,
Internet, video all running well. This is the first distro of many I
have tried that I could actually use if I had to.

Regards, Rene

On 10/12/2015 11:09 AM, Paul wrote:
Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10

I think users want to feel they're in control
of their own machine.

They've been trained (the hard way) to deal
with malware.

And this current campaign from Microsoft, from
a user perspective (amount of work required), is
a lot like dealing with malware. It's a lot like
getting rid of that toolbar you never asked for.

I would be less concerned about this whole charade,
if the removal process (return to qualifying OS)
was trouble free. But the evidence seems to be,
it is not trouble free. And that makes it all the
more obnoxious (for those people who will be
dragging their Win10 PC to Geek Squad to have
the damage undone).

I've "lashed down" my own OSes here, but that
doesn't mean my methodology is "best practice".
So here, the problem is merely bandaided, not
properly dealt with.

It was also disheartening, to discover the HOST
file has "holes" in it. And cannot be trusted
as a filtering mechanism. So one side effect of
this stuff, is learning more about how things
really work.

Paul


Well I have to agree with you Paul that Win10 is a hell of a lot more
work to configure than it should be.
Most users would be sorely tempted to say the hell with it and stay with
an older version, I am retired and can afford the time ( I'm only 81)
and effort required.
Also I am not too concerned if I break the system as I have all the
backups and images I need to get back up, most users don't have that luxury.


Regards, Rene

En el artículo , Rene Lamontagne
escribió:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

It's worse than that.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10

You're an idiot.

--
(\_/)
(='.'=) Bunny says: Windows 10? Nein danke!
(")_(")

On 10/12/2015 1:07 PM, Mike Tomlinson wrote:
En el artículo , Rene Lamontagne
escribió:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

It's worse than that.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10

You're an idiot.



it takes one to know one

Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:44:25 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10
Yeah, I don't know about that! ;-)

Word is, US DoD is avoiding 10 like that disease. Admittedly, they are making a concerted effort to migrate
to Linux, but they still have many Windows boxes.

I hope that's true! I'm hoping enough agencies, businesses, ...
their "enterprise" customers are going to avoid it, to make MS rethink
the way they are doing business now.

Windows 10 is like a plague to me, that has to be constantly fought off.
bj

chicagofan wrote on 10/12/2015 2:44 PM:
Stormin' Norman wrote:
On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:44:25 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote:

Jeez, its only Windows 10, Not the black plague.

Regards, Rene, Running Windows 10
Yeah, I don't know about that! ;-)

Word is, US DoD is avoiding 10 like that disease. Admittedly, they
are making a concerted effort to migrate
to Linux, but they still have many Windows boxes.

I hope that's true! I'm hoping enough agencies, businesses, ...
their "enterprise" customers are going to avoid it, to make MS rethink
the way they are doing business now.

Windows 10 is like a plague to me, that has to be constantly fought
off.
bj

Word is ? Word from where beyond circumstantial supposition ?

LOB applications in Linux continue to be the Achille's heal. No rush on
the business side eithe since most are still running Win7 or sister
Server o/s and will continue to do so at least 4-5 yrs.

Anyone telling you that the DOD is avoiding 10 is just passing along
another fool's uninformed comment. The DOD lags even business on
upgrading and deploying and existing o/s - any 'word' about Win10
adoption or lack of is completely lacking of substance - too early to
even comment.

What is known is that the DOD uses both o/s [Windows and Linux] to date
for some very obvious reasons one of which is redundancy. The
consistent weakness (the marginal % distro pundits will show up and cry
otherwise) in Linux in DOD and DARPA applications has been the
compatibility with the internal supported o/s and more importantly the
supply base which is primarily Windows.

The DOD provided 3/4 Billion to MSFT to adopt Windows 8. Touch Screen
and mobile is/was a large part of the deployment. Win10 continues that
trend and also across more non MSFT devices - never confuse the included
Win10 existing apps with those developed and used proprietarily by the
DOD (larger than any business) and their massive business supply base
including avionics on land, air and sea (the latter on, in, and under).

There's obvious room for both but stating anything about the defense
industry and Win10 has little credibility.


--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

Paul wrote on 10/12/2015 12:09 PM:


I would be less concerned about this whole charade,
if the removal process (return to qualifying OS)
was trouble free. But the evidence seems to be,
it is not trouble free. And that makes it all the
more obnoxious (for those people who will be
dragging their Win10 PC to Geek Squad to have
the damage undone).


Those same people dragging devices into Geek Squad's high turnover/low
talent to return to Vista and XP from 7 and 8 were less obnoxious ?



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

.. . .winston wrote:
Paul wrote on 10/12/2015 12:09 PM:


I would be less concerned about this whole charade,
if the removal process (return to qualifying OS)
was trouble free. But the evidence seems to be,
it is not trouble free. And that makes it all the
more obnoxious (for those people who will be
dragging their Win10 PC to Geek Squad to have
the damage undone).


Those same people dragging devices into Geek Squad's high turnover/low
talent to return to Vista and XP from 7 and 8 were less obnoxious ?

Remember that this is an upgrade they didn't ask for.

If you're going to Geek Squad to have Win7 put on your
Vista machine, that's your call. All the cards are on
the table. You know exactly when the update will be
done - you put cash on the table to have it done.

That's just a bit different than dragging the PC
to the Geek Squad, because Microsoft ****ed it up
for you.

The people who hang around in this group, have
at least some clues as to what is going on, so
they can try their best to prepare. But I know
there are people out there, who are just
taking this stuff on the chin (blindsided).

Paul

Paul wrote on 10/12/2015 11:06 PM:
. . .winston wrote:
Paul wrote on 10/12/2015 12:09 PM:


I would be less concerned about this whole charade,
if the removal process (return to qualifying OS)
was trouble free. But the evidence seems to be,
it is not trouble free. And that makes it all the
more obnoxious (for those people who will be
dragging their Win10 PC to Geek Squad to have
the damage undone).


Those same people dragging devices into Geek Squad's high turnover/low
talent to return to Vista and XP from 7 and 8 were less obnoxious ?

Remember that this is an upgrade they didn't ask for.

If you're going to Geek Squad to have Win7 put on your
Vista machine, that's your call. All the cards are on
the table. You know exactly when the update will be
done - you put cash on the table to have it done.

That's just a bit different than dragging the PC
to the Geek Squad, because Microsoft ****ed it up
for you.

The people who hang around in this group, have
at least some clues as to what is going on, so
they can try their best to prepare. But I know
there are people out there, who are just
taking this stuff on the chin (blindsided).

Paul

This group like the 'taking it on the chin' population is marginal.
There are plenty who should never move to Win10 from Win7 (8 to 10 imo
is different) - new device or upgrade...but that 'plenty' is still
marginal but as you've noted it is present and obviously part of the 0.1
Billion as of Oct 1 on Win10 (someone earlier claimed 200 million - I
doubt that 0.2B figure is accurate)

There's also a population that complain about 10 extolling its
shortcomings trying to protect or warn the potential 'on the chin'
population not having even used 10 - some right, some wrong.

There is no question that MSFT's approach with the GWX app is more
aggressive in pushing the Win10 upgrade - it may also be their job to do
so. MSFT having already reported the impact of the cost of the 1yr free
upgrade and accrual book entries over the next three years indicates
more of the same may be in the future g

Never underestimate that who is the targeted audience - not this group,
not the 'on the chin' but the future disposable income of the next
mobile generation - and that is probably not you or I or most anyone in
this group.





--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 18:38:09 +0700, Vico T wrote:

OS: Win7, 32-bit, Home edition.

A couple of months ago or so I hid KB3035583.

So did I and guess what Patch Tuesday is offering me today... :-\

--
s|b

Vico T wrote:
OS: Win7, 32-bit, Home edition.

A couple of months ago or so I hid KB3035583.

During a recent update KB3035583 somehow installed itself. I definitely
did not restore this update!

In "Review your update history" the status is shown as "Successful" for
Update for Windows 7 (KB3035583).

I tried to remove KB3035583 but it is not shown in "Uninstall an update".

In "Windows Update" "Upgrade to Windows 10" is displayed. How can I
remove this prompt?

It also indicates "Start installing the newest version of Windows now
(2,160.0 MB)."

Does this imply Windows 10 is already downloaded to my pc?

And to make things even more confusing, in "Restore hidden updates"
there are now two (2) "Update for Windows 7 (KB3035583) displayed.
TIA.

In My hide update I find that I now have 2 KB3035583 updates but they
are different sizes.You have to watch closely now because they want
everybody to be on Windows 10 and the upgrades are not going as fast as
Microsoft has hoped for.