Cascading or tiling open images?

Keith Nuttle wrote:

On 6/15/2017 11:09 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

On 6/15/2017 4:44 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote:

Not sure if this is a Win 10 OS or IrfanView issue, or just user memory
fatigue. But wasn't there an option in the right click menu of taskbar
icons to cascade or tile open files. In this case, images.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gabax1scio...cde-1.jpg?dl=0

Disappeared in Windows 7 (don't know if it started back in Vista).
Instead you go to Task Manager under its Applications tab and Ctrl+click
on each window you want to tile (just like how you pick multiple files
in Windows/File Explorer). Then you can right-click on any of them to
tile horizontally or vertically or to cascade them. Rather than tiling
all windows some of which you don't care about right now, you get to
pick which ones to tile.

In Windows 10, if you click on any space in the Taskbar at the bottom of
the Desktop screen, you will be given a menu That gives the options to
place the windows stacked (Vertical), side by side or cascade.

Yes, but that's ALL windows, not just IrfanView for example.

The menu you get when you right click on a program icon that shows
recently opened files is the best change to Windows, since MS used their
OS/2 code and came out with Windows XP. It took me some time to
realize that the program icon can be on the program list, the start
screen or on the desktop task bar.

But I think it should have included the cascading/tiling items too.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I don't understand what you are asking. Do you want to cascade the
windows on the desktop or do you want to cascade the items in the
program window (you Mentioned Irfanview).

To cascade the items on the desktop you need multiple windows open, so
the function would be an OS function not a function of the individual
program. To cascade items in a program window would be a program
function and only applicable to the program.

"...an option in the right click menu of taskbar
ICONS to cascade or tile open files. In this case, images."

My screenshot pointed to an individual icon, IrfanView in this case. Not
the Taskbar.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Terry Pinnell wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I should have said it TRIES to rearrange all non-minimized
windows, and does a horrible job of it.

The only thing you can do is minimize all windows, then make
sure only the Windows you want to rearrange are non-minimized.
Then use either your method or clicking on an open area on the
taskbar to rearrange them. I would recommend the open area since
it includes a "Undo" option.

I have 25 windows open at the moment, which is fairly typical. These are
owned by seven applications, the main contributor being File Explorer
and IrfanView. I would never want to cascade or stack a mish-mash of
windows from multiple applications. Almost always it would be FE folders
or IrfanView images.

Shift+Right clicking the specific icon works fine. Thanks again for the
reminder.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

My slip; it's lifewoutmilk I'm thanking.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

Terry Pinnell wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Terry Pinnell wrote:

Not sure if this is a Win 10 OS or IrfanView issue, or just user memory
fatigue. But wasn't there an option in the right click menu of taskbar
icons to cascade or tile open files. In this case, images.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gabax1scio...cde-1.jpg?dl=0

Disappeared in Windows 7 (don't know if it started back in Vista).
Instead you go to Task Manager under its Applications tab and
Ctrl+click on each window you want to tile (just like how you pick
multiple files in Windows/File Explorer). Then you can right-click
on any of them to tile horizontally or vertically or to cascade
them. Rather than tiling all windows some of which you don't care
about right now, you get to pick which ones to tile.

That strange procedure works for you? Not here. Nothing gets selected
with Ctrl+ Click (or any operation for that matter). And anyway all
entries have the same text 'IrfanView 64-bit'! Not that selection by
filename would be practical anyway, you need a thumbnail.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3q4lgpcdb...ction.jpg?dl=0

I just did some reading on this and the trick of tiling or cascading
windows was dropped in Windows 10's task manager.

https://www.howtogeek.com/181681/4-h...ndows-desktop/
"all of these tricks also work on Windows 8 or 10 except the ones that
require the Task Manager"
and later
"You can’t use the below tricks on Windows 8 — Microsoft probably
removed them because they were used so rarely."

Ah, fark. Gave something in Windows 7. Took it away in Windows 8
(which I never bothered with). The only Windows 10 hosts that I can use
are at work but I do Usenet at home.

Can you tile or cascade only the non-minimized windows? That is, if you
minimize all the windows except leave the Irfanview windows open, will
right-clicking on the taskbar and choosing one of the window placement
options result in only acting on the Irfanview windows?

Keith Nuttle wrote:

On 6/15/2017 11:09 AM, Terry Pinnell wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:

On 6/15/2017 4:44 AM, VanguardLH wrote:
Terry Pinnell wrote:

Not sure if this is a Win 10 OS or IrfanView issue, or just user memory
fatigue. But wasn't there an option in the right click menu of taskbar
icons to cascade or tile open files. In this case, images.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gabax1scio...cde-1.jpg?dl=0

Disappeared in Windows 7 (don't know if it started back in Vista).
Instead you go to Task Manager under its Applications tab and Ctrl+click
on each window you want to tile (just like how you pick multiple files
in Windows/File Explorer). Then you can right-click on any of them to
tile horizontally or vertically or to cascade them. Rather than tiling
all windows some of which you don't care about right now, you get to
pick which ones to tile.

In Windows 10, if you click on any space in the Taskbar at the bottom of
the Desktop screen, you will be given a menu That gives the options to
place the windows stacked (Vertical), side by side or cascade.

Yes, but that's ALL windows, not just IrfanView for example.

The menu you get when you right click on a program icon that shows
recently opened files is the best change to Windows, since MS used their
OS/2 code and came out with Windows XP. It took me some time to
realize that the program icon can be on the program list, the start
screen or on the desktop task bar.

But I think it should have included the cascading/tiling items too.

Terry, East Grinstead, UK

I don't understand what you are asking. Do you want to cascade the
windows on the desktop or do you want to cascade the items in the
program window (you Mentioned Irfanview).

To cascade the items on the desktop you need multiple windows open, so
the function would be an OS function not a function of the individual
program. To cascade items in a program window would be a program
function and only applicable to the program.

SDI (single document interface) apps have separate windows for each
document so the OS would take care of their placement. MDI (multiple
document interface) apps have one parent window but can multiple
documents within, and their placement would be controlled by the app. I
don't know if Irfanview is an MDI or SDI app (I don't have it
installed). My guess is Irfanview is an app that has but one parent
window and no child windows. From what I see at Google Images, it is an
SDI app with but one child window in which pane objects are used.

So the OP likely has multiple instances of Irfanview running, each with
its single window displayed. The OP might have other windows displayed
for other apps, too, but he only wants to tile or cascade the windows
*only* owned by Irfanview. That's why I mentioned the Task Manager
approach where you can pick which windows are included in the
reorganization. Instead of tiling or cascading all windows, only those
selected are included in the tile or cascade action.

Alas, looks like Microsoft took away the Task Manager trick the means of
selecting which windows to include in a tile or cascade reorganize.

Terry Pinnell wrote:

John Doe wrote:

I should have said it TRIES to rearrange all non-minimized
windows, and does a horrible job of it.

The only thing you can do is minimize all windows, then
make sure only the Windows you want to rearrange are
non-minimized. Then use either your method or clicking on
an open area on the taskbar to rearrange them. I would
recommend the open area since it includes a "Undo" option.

I have 25 windows open at the moment, which is fairly
typical. These are owned by seven applications, the main
contributor being File Explorer and IrfanView. I would
never want to cascade or stack a mish-mash of windows from
multiple applications. Almost always it would be FE folders
or IrfanView images.

Shift+Right clicking the specific icon works fine.

Only if you minimize all windows first. It automatically
restores the category of windows according to the taskbar
button you click on, then rearranges them.

On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 21:16:04 -0000 (UTC), Diesel
wrote:


Windows 10 has succesfully (imho) turned the desktop into a steaming
pile of ****.



The purpose of alt.comp.os.windows-10 is to help people with Windows
10 problems, not express opinions about how terrible or wonderful
Windows 10 is. Please keep your opinions to yourself.

And by the way, if you think the Windows 10 desktop is a steaming
pile of ****, you haven't even begun to explore the available choices
for what the desktop looks like. If you were to look at my desktop,
you would have a hard time differentiating it from Windows 7's.

A netcop wannabe...

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On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 21:16:04 -0000 (UTC), Diesel me privacy.net
wrote:


Windows 10 has succesfully (imho) turned the desktop into a steaming
pile of ****.



The purpose of alt.comp.os.windows-10 is to help people with Windows
10 problems, not express opinions about how terrible or wonderful
Windows 10 is. Please keep your opinions to yourself.

And by the way, if you think the Windows 10 desktop is a steaming
pile of ****, you haven't even begun to explore the available choices
for what the desktop looks like. If you were to look at my desktop,
you would have a hard time differentiating it from Windows 7's.

John Doe wrote:
A netcop wannabe...


The USENET convention for advocacy groups,
is to put advocacy as the last work in the name.

Famous examples.

comp.os.linux.advocacy
comp.sys.mac.advocacy

The purpose of advocacy groups, is to separate
advocacy traffic from other traffic not related
to a group charter. And you can see that COLA
does an excellent job of this.

Of course groups don't have charters any more,
as witnessed by the excessive crossposting these days.
So it hardly matters that USENET had a "design intent".
Once upon a time...

Paul

On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:58:18 -0700, Ken Blake
wrote:

And by the way, if you think the Windows 10 desktop is a steaming
pile of ****, you haven't even begun to explore the available choices
for what the desktop looks like. If you were to look at my desktop,
you would have a hard time differentiating it from Windows 7's.

Why did you install it then ? You obviously spent a lot of time to
make it work like Win 7.
Have you read the TOS and the massive amount of personal datamining it
does ?

http://news.softpedia.com/news/windo...s-516187.shtml

//Windows 7, whose support is coming to an end in January 2020, is
increasing its market share much faster than Windows 10, even though
Microsoft is clearly pushing people towards the latter.

Data provided by NetMarketShare for the month of May indicates that
Windows 7 is getting very close to powering 50 percent of the world’s
PCs, growing from 48.50 percent in April to 49.46 percent last
month.//
[]'s

PS IMHO, most of Win 10's 26.78% are people that buy computers
with Win 10 pre-installed and have no idea how to "upgrade" it to Win
7.

OT up. Even if it's "free", Win 10 is certainly not freeware.
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Paul wrote:

John Doe wrote:

A netcop wannabe...

The USENET convention for advocacy groups, is to put
advocacy as the last work in the name.

Famous examples.

comp.os.linux.advocacy comp.sys.mac.advocacy

The purpose of advocacy groups, is to separate advocacy
traffic from other traffic not related to a group charter.
And you can see that COLA does an excellent job of this.

Of course groups don't have charters any more, as witnessed
by the excessive crossposting these days. So it hardly
matters that USENET had a "design intent". Once upon a
time...

When talking about Microsoft (Windows) or any other mega tech
company, there is no such thing as effective advocacy. If
there were any purpose to posting elsewhere, it would be a
good thing.

This is not a Google criticism group either, but we do it
anyway, right? Everybody expresses their opinions about
things freely here on USENET.