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Old December 10th 18, 04:05 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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Default Computer won't sleep.

My computer is set so that the screensshut down after 20 minutes and
the computer goes to sleep after 30 minutes. Password is required when
woken up by mouse or keyboard input.

This has ceased to happen ever since my update with version 1 of 1809.
My computer and screens continue to run no matter how long I leave it
abandoned. This doesn't seem to be a unique problem but Google seems
to only find advice which doesn't apply to my Settings menu system.

My Power Management settings a
"High Performance" selected.
Screen OFF after 20 minutes
SLEEP after 30 minutes.

What am I missing?
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old December 10th 18, 05:32 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Computer won't sleep.

Eric Stevens wrote:
My computer is set so that the screensshut down after 20 minutes and
the computer goes to sleep after 30 minutes. Password is required when
woken up by mouse or keyboard input.

This has ceased to happen ever since my update with version 1 of 1809.
My computer and screens continue to run no matter how long I leave it
abandoned. This doesn't seem to be a unique problem but Google seems
to only find advice which doesn't apply to my Settings menu system.

My Power Management settings a
"High Performance" selected.
Screen OFF after 20 minutes
SLEEP after 30 minutes.

What am I missing?


1) Is Sleep available in the shutdown menu ?

2) Are you running a movie player right now ?
In the Power options, there might be an option
that supports a movie player being able to keep the
machine awake.

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake

and find out why it woke up.

4) In Cortana, try typing "Reliability" and access
the Reliability monitor. Check the colored dots on
the graph, for events which might be happening at
the same instant the machine was trying to sleep.
Maybe something is crashing or exiting.

*******

The tenforums.com site is a pretty good source of info.
It shows where the sleep button is hiding. Look for
"Option One" "Item 7" for a picture.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

Paul
  #3  
Old December 10th 18, 05:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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Default Computer won't sleep.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:32:07 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
My computer is set so that the screensshut down after 20 minutes and
the computer goes to sleep after 30 minutes. Password is required when
woken up by mouse or keyboard input.

This has ceased to happen ever since my update with version 1 of 1809.
My computer and screens continue to run no matter how long I leave it
abandoned. This doesn't seem to be a unique problem but Google seems
to only find advice which doesn't apply to my Settings menu system.

My Power Management settings a
"High Performance" selected.
Screen OFF after 20 minutes
SLEEP after 30 minutes.

What am I missing?


1) Is Sleep available in the shutdown menu ?


Yes, but I have never used it.

2) Are you running a movie player right now ?
In the Power options, there might be an option
that supports a movie player being able to keep the
machine awake.


I'm not running a movie player.

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake

and find out why it woke up.


I'll come back to you on that later.

4) In Cortana, try typing "Reliability" and access
the Reliability monitor. Check the colored dots on
the graph, for events which might be happening at
the same instant the machine was trying to sleep.
Maybe something is crashing or exiting.


There are number of events but no pattern and nothing relevant as far
as I can see.

*******

The tenforums.com site is a pretty good source of info.
It shows where the sleep button is hiding. Look for
"Option One" "Item 7" for a picture.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

Paul

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
  #4  
Old December 10th 18, 06:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Computer won't sleep.

Eric Stevens wrote:

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake

and find out why it woke up.


I'll come back to you on that later.


https://www.sevenforums.com/performa...ng-system.html

powercfg -requests

powercfg -energy -output %USERPROFILE%\Desktop\Energy_Report.html

Powercfg has lots of options, and you may eventually
locate the problem by using it.

The energy report in this virtual machine run, shows
just how broken a VM is. VMs can't sleep or hibernate,
because the VM manager has its own mechanisms for freezing
Guest state. It happens to make a perfect "victim"
of an energy report, and shows the kinds of things
it can display.

https://i.postimg.cc/13zrd1fW/energy-report.gif

Paul
  #5  
Old December 10th 18, 10:45 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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Posts: 911
Default Computer won't sleep.

On Sun, 09 Dec 2018 23:32:07 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
My computer is set so that the screensshut down after 20 minutes and
the computer goes to sleep after 30 minutes. Password is required when
woken up by mouse or keyboard input.

This has ceased to happen ever since my update with version 1 of 1809.
My computer and screens continue to run no matter how long I leave it
abandoned. This doesn't seem to be a unique problem but Google seems
to only find advice which doesn't apply to my Settings menu system.

My Power Management settings a
"High Performance" selected.
Screen OFF after 20 minutes
SLEEP after 30 minutes.

What am I missing?


1) Is Sleep available in the shutdown menu ?

2) Are you running a movie player right now ?
In the Power options, there might be an option
that supports a movie player being able to keep the
machine awake.

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake


I get:

C:\WINDOWS\system32powercfg /lastwake
Wake History Count - 1
Wake History [0]
Wake Source Count - 0

.... whatever that meaans.

and find out why it woke up.

4) In Cortana, try typing "Reliability" and access
the Reliability monitor. Check the colored dots on
the graph, for events which might be happening at
the same instant the machine was trying to sleep.
Maybe something is crashing or exiting.

*******

The tenforums.com site is a pretty good source of info.
It shows where the sleep button is hiding. Look for
"Option One" "Item 7" for a picture.

https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/...dows-10-a.html

Paul

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old December 11th 18, 04:00 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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Default Computer won't sleep.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 00:00:50 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake

and find out why it woke up.


I'll come back to you on that later.


https://www.sevenforums.com/performa...ng-system.html

powercfg -requests

powercfg -energy -output %USERPROFILE%\Desktop\Energy_Report.html

Powercfg has lots of options, and you may eventually
locate the problem by using it.


I have just run it. See
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg3j4he2s3...port.html?dl=0
I haven't tried to digest it yet.

The energy report in this virtual machine run, shows
just how broken a VM is. VMs can't sleep or hibernate,
because the VM manager has its own mechanisms for freezing
Guest state. It happens to make a perfect "victim"
of an energy report, and shows the kinds of things
it can display.

https://i.postimg.cc/13zrd1fW/energy-report.gif

Paul

--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old December 11th 18, 06:13 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default Computer won't sleep.

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 00:00:50 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake

and find out why it woke up.
I'll come back to you on that later.

https://www.sevenforums.com/performa...ng-system.html

powercfg -requests

powercfg -energy -output %USERPROFILE%\Desktop\Energy_Report.html

Powercfg has lots of options, and you may eventually
locate the problem by using it.


I have just run it. See
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg3j4he2s3...port.html?dl=0
I haven't tried to digest it yet.
The energy report in this virtual machine run, shows
just how broken a VM is. VMs can't sleep or hibernate,
because the VM manager has its own mechanisms for freezing
Guest state. It happens to make a perfect "victim"
of an energy report, and shows the kinds of things
it can display.

https://i.postimg.cc/13zrd1fW/energy-report.gif

Paul


From your report:

*******

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Supported Sleep States

Sleep states allow the computer to enter low-power modes after
a period of inactivity. The S3 sleep state is the default sleep state
for Windows platforms. The S3 sleep state consumes only enough power
to preserve memory contents and allow the computer to resume working
quickly. Very few platforms support the S1 or S2 Sleep states.

S1 Sleep Supported false
S2 Sleep Supported false
S3 Sleep Supported true === Sleep or Hybrid Sleep (uses Hiberfile)
S4 Sleep Supported true === Hibernation state

*******

Looks like thumbs up, fully operational to me.

While you seem to have selected a "High Power" schema in
your Power control panel, the web-page-like report offers
no veiled threats at all. It should still be able to
transition from that mode, to Sleep state. That's what the
quoted material above says.

It really should be working, as far as the report is
concerned.

You can check the Reliability Monitor, and see if it
is crashing, every time it tries to go to sleep. The
Energy Report might not see that part, but Reliability
might have it.

Paul
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Old December 11th 18, 10:09 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Eric Stevens
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Posts: 911
Default Computer won't sleep.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 00:13:51 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 00:00:50 -0500, Paul
wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:

3) Does the machine try to sleep, and immediately wake up. Try

powercfg /lastwake

and find out why it woke up.
I'll come back to you on that later.
https://www.sevenforums.com/performa...ng-system.html

powercfg -requests

powercfg -energy -output %USERPROFILE%\Desktop\Energy_Report.html

Powercfg has lots of options, and you may eventually
locate the problem by using it.


I have just run it. See
https://www.dropbox.com/s/sg3j4he2s3...port.html?dl=0
I haven't tried to digest it yet.
The energy report in this virtual machine run, shows
just how broken a VM is. VMs can't sleep or hibernate,
because the VM manager has its own mechanisms for freezing
Guest state. It happens to make a perfect "victim"
of an energy report, and shows the kinds of things
it can display.

https://i.postimg.cc/13zrd1fW/energy-report.gif

Paul


From your report:

*******

Platform Power Management Capabilities:Supported Sleep States

Sleep states allow the computer to enter low-power modes after
a period of inactivity. The S3 sleep state is the default sleep state
for Windows platforms. The S3 sleep state consumes only enough power
to preserve memory contents and allow the computer to resume working
quickly. Very few platforms support the S1 or S2 Sleep states.

S1 Sleep Supported false
S2 Sleep Supported false
S3 Sleep Supported true === Sleep or Hybrid Sleep (uses Hiberfile)
S4 Sleep Supported true === Hibernation state

*******

Looks like thumbs up, fully operational to me.

While you seem to have selected a "High Power" schema in
your Power control panel, the web-page-like report offers
no veiled threats at all. It should still be able to
transition from that mode, to Sleep state. That's what the
quoted material above says.


I selected high powwer some months ago when my problem was waking it
up. It eventually turned out to be a problem with Wi Fi interference,
but I never changed the power setting.

It really should be working, as far as the report is
concerned.

You can check the Reliability Monitor, and see if it
is crashing, every time it tries to go to sleep. The
Energy Report might not see that part, but Reliability
might have it.

The reliability monitor shows the occasional problem but nothing which
remotely synchronizes with me leaving the computer to shut down.
Whatever the cause, it arrived with 1809 Mk1. Something has changed.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
 




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