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"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. exactly, same goes for Microsoft. And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to the customer runs second to making money. Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development, nada.. Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises.. Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine.. you took my statement and added "And..." that generally means in addition to. sounded like an agreement to me. |
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:32:22 -0400, "john" wrote:
"Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. exactly, same goes for Microsoft. And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to the customer runs second to making money. Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development, nada.. Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises.. Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine.. you took my statement and added "And..." that generally means in addition to. sounded like an agreement to me. Always fun to watch Mike Hall try to wiggle out of what he said. Memo to Mike Hall: The word 'and' is intended to indicate some connection or additions to what was previously said. Often used to express logical modification, some consequence or supplementary explanation to another. May be used to form a conjunction, list more of the same or of a similar kind. Always amusing to see the Microsoft fateful exclude Microsoft from what they admit are a laundry list of sins of other software companies, software/hardware retailers etc., when everybody knows Microsoft is the biggest offender when it comes to poor service, crappy always buggy products and attempts to bully and be the 800 pound gorilla in the room. You see Mike, that MVP badge you so love to flash around looks pretty tarnished when you always excuse Microsoft no matter what pretending they are guiltless, like a good little fanboy is suppose to do. |
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Tim Slattery wrote:
"Colin Barnhorst" wrote: The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception might not do so well with digital signals. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines It is that digital signals are more picky about the signal quality. You will need a higher signal strength to get a respectable digital signal otherwise you will get a pretty bad picture. -- Robert Pendell "A perfect world is one of chaos." Thawte Web of Trust Notary CAcert Assurer |
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jim wrote:
As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim This applies to over the air signals only. If you use any other source for the signal then they are fine. -- Robert Pendell "A perfect world is one of chaos." Thawte Web of Trust Notary CAcert Assurer |
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Mike Hall - MVP wrote:
"john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. exactly, same goes for Microsoft. And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. Not all of them. -- Robert Pendell "A perfect world is one of chaos." Thawte Web of Trust Notary CAcert Assurer |
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"Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception might not do so well with digital signals. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt Perhaps that is correct for some sets in some localities. However, my TV receives both analog and digital signals. The only difference I see is that the digital signals are sharper and have better colors. Jim |
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The date and time was 5/20/2008 10:32 AM, and on a whim, Jim pounded out
on the keyboard: "Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception might not do so well with digital signals. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt Perhaps that is correct for some sets in some localities. However, my TV receives both analog and digital signals. The only difference I see is that the digital signals are sharper and have better colors. Jim Those living in the boonies will suffer the most probably. Since analog gives varying degrees of quality, from lousy to good, digital will either work or it won't. You won't "kind" of get a signal. If it's not strong enough, you're out of luck. -- Terry R. ***Reply Note*** Anti-spam measures are included in my email address. Delete NOSPAM from the email address after clicking Reply. |
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"Adam Albright" wrote in message ... On Tue, 20 May 2008 12:32:22 -0400, "john" wrote: "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... "john" wrote in message ... "Mike Hall - MVP" wrote in message ... Digital cable and satellite boxes will convert to analogue, so the TVs will still work, but you are right in that Best Buy and other major computer stores have little integrity, and service to the customer runs second to making money.. exactly, same goes for Microsoft. And the people behind Linux Distros also make money.. glad to see you agree that Microsoft has little integrity and service to the customer runs second to making money. Without the making of money, there would be no service, no development, nada.. Linux is offered free on the back of other money making enterprises.. Do NOT accredit me with words that are not mine.. you took my statement and added "And..." that generally means in addition to. sounded like an agreement to me. Always fun to watch Mike Hall try to wiggle out of what he said. Memo to Mike Hall: The word 'and' is intended to indicate some connection or additions to what was previously said. Often used to express logical modification, some consequence or supplementary explanation to another. May be used to form a conjunction, list more of the same or of a similar kind. Always amusing to see the Microsoft fateful exclude Microsoft from what they admit are a laundry list of sins of other software companies, software/hardware retailers etc., when everybody knows Microsoft is the biggest offender when it comes to poor service, crappy always buggy products and attempts to bully and be the 800 pound gorilla in the room. You see Mike, that MVP badge you so love to flash around looks pretty tarnished when you always excuse Microsoft no matter what pretending they are guiltless, like a good little fanboy is suppose to do. Memo to Adam Albright: The word "retard" is reserved for our special child in this group and you just happen to fit that bill. You always love to put down everyone who doesn't agree with your views on Vista. That makes you look stupid in this group and you lose credibility every time you post. Pretty soon, most people will killfile your sorry ass and you will look more like the fool you already are. Take the "and" and shove it where the sun DON'T shine. Now go see if you can get a T1 line so you can have bandwith for your EGO. |
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Terry R. wrote: The date and time was 5/20/2008 10:32 AM, and on a whim, Jim pounded out on the keyboard: "Tim Slattery" wrote in message ... "Colin Barnhorst" wrote: The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. Yes but....there's an article in the Washington Post this morning about how the digital over-the-air signals are not as robust as analog signals. Somebody who gets acceptable over-the-air analog reception might not do so well with digital signals. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...=moreheadlines -- Tim Slattery MS MVP(Shell/User) http://members.cox.net/slatteryt Perhaps that is correct for some sets in some localities. However, my TV receives both analog and digital signals. The only difference I see is that the digital signals are sharper and have better colors. Jim Those living in the boonies will suffer the most probably. Since analog gives varying degrees of quality, from lousy to good, digital will either work or it won't. You won't "kind" of get a signal. If it's not strong enough, you're out of luck. Yep, digital, ON/OFF, don't ya just love this new technology. VBG |
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To make more money on that inventory they will eventually need to dump?
jim wrote: Of course you are right, but why wouldn't Best Buy tell their customers this? "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message ... The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. "Mark H" wrote in message ... Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is not digital ready. If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and the TVs are a lot cheaper. "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim |
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Ahh, but see that would be too technical, for most of the Hollywood consumer
set here. :-) I like that term digital terrestrial receivers MUCH better - at least it explains a bit better what it is (i.e., with the tuner for the new digital channels). Synapse Syndrome wrote: "Colin Barnhorst" wrote in message ... The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. I don't know about what you call these in America, but we do not call them converter boxes. They are digital terrestrial receivers, as these analogue TVs just lack digital tuners. ss. |
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True enough.
I wonder what % will be that way (receiving only local, over the air, broadcasts, having no cable or satellite). I'll hazard a guess: maybe 20% of the population? (I figure the overwhelming majority are on cable or satellite now, but I could be wrong) Colin Barnhorst wrote: The converter boxes will allow analog sets to continue to work with over-the-air tv. No satellite or cable is required. "Mark H" wrote in message ... Your TV will not work if you do not receive Satellite or Cable and it is not digital ready. If you currently receive Satellite or Cable, it will work just fine and the TVs are a lot cheaper. "jim" wrote in message .. . As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). Seeing as how the tone for the overall Best Buy/Geek Squad operations are set by Best Buy, it would behoove people to take note as to how Best Buy treats its customers before using the services of Geek Squad. As reported on CNET (http://www.news.com/8301-10784_3-994...?tag=nefd.top), Best Buy has been selling customers old ANALOG (that means the TVs are not ready for the February 17, 2009 switch of ALL television to digital signals) televisions without the stickers MANDATED by the FCC that warn buyers that the sets will not work after February 17, 2009 without buying an additional digital converter. That's nice. Screwing the public to dump old analog TVs that will work for less than a year without the new digital signal converters. Makes me wonder what old, out-of-date crap Geek Squad is installing on people's PCs. jim |
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On Tue, 20 May 2008 06:35:09 -0400, jim wrote:
As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). This thread has nothing at all to do with either Vista or XP so please end it. Those who want to continue this useless discussion should take it to email, it doesn't belong in any of the news groups it has been excessively cross-posted to. -- Paul Adare http://www.identit.ca You forgot to do your backup 16 days ago. Tomorrow you will need that version. |
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Paul Adare wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2008 06:35:09 -0400, jim wrote: As you probably know, Geek Squad is owned by Best Buy and operates right out of their stores. So, it is reasonable to assume that Best Buy sets the tone for how Geek Squad operates (except for the influence that Microsoft's $200,000,000 cash infusion gives them, of course). This thread has nothing at all to do with either Vista or XP so please end it. Those who want to continue this useless discussion should take it to email, it doesn't belong in any of the news groups it has been excessively cross-posted to. Your net-cop response in this thread has nothing at all to do with either Vista or XP so please end it. If you want to continue this useless net-nazi discussion should take it to email, it doesn't belong in any of the news groups it has been excessively cross-posted to. -- "Fair use is not merely a nice concept--it is a federal law based on free speech rights under the First Amendment and is a cornerstone of the creativity and innovation that is a hallmark of this country. Consumer rights in the digital age are not frivolous." - Maura Corbett DRM and unintended consequences: http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/se...35&tag=nl.e101 |
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Adam Albright wrote:
Always amusing to see the Microsoft fateful exclude Microsoft from what they admit are a laundry list of sins of other software companies, software/hardware retailers etc., when everybody knows Microsoft is the biggest offender when it comes to poor service, crappy always buggy products and attempts to bully and be the 800 pound gorilla in the room. You see Mike, that MVP badge you so love to flash around looks pretty tarnished when you always excuse Microsoft no matter what pretending they are guiltless, like a good little fanboy is suppose to do. There is a difference. Microsoft may release poor quality products and not stand behind them, but Microsoft's motives are pure and the perceived offenses can easily be attributed to oversight, mistake, or human error. That stands in stark contrast to those companies who deliberately set out to deceive. I wouldn't own stock in a wicked, wicked company! Anyway, to return to the thread - Best Buy is in for a change. They are bidding to take over Netflix, which has a very high customer statisfaction quotient. Whether Best Buy is the agent of change or the recipient has yet to be determined. |
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