What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2with limited free disk spaces?

In every case, some other non-Microsoft program causes the problem with
installation of SP3.
Virus programs, malware programs, other than Microsoft firewall programs
etc. etc. etc.
SP3 has been installed on literally millions of systems.
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Suggest you find the problem instead of blaming Microsoft.


Can't see the OP, but if he's RESPONSIBLE (?) for many machines, surely he
TESTED it first?

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You can change the subject in a thread. Someone needs to use "New message"
rather "Reply" to create a new thread.

I am changing the subject to demonstrate my point.

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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
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Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.


There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.

There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?

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Your theory is wrong. Do you think the drive 'overruns' the bus??
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Gerry typed on Sat, 7 Mar 2009 22:24:04 -0000:
Like Patrick I have long been an advocate of using the Microsoft Disk
Defragmenter...

I actually have been using defraggers since the 80's and with the
exception of MFM drives, I *never* have seen an improvement from
defragging. My theory is the bus speed is slower than the reading of a
fragmented IDE drive anyway. Another possibility is that I only buy slow
CPU based machines. As I don't need Lear jet power to play DVDs.

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Gerry wrote:
Gordon

You can change the subject in a thread. Someone needs to use "New message"
rather "Reply" to create a new thread.

I am changing the subject to demonstrate my point.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.


There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.

There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?

Exactly. And there have been several such variations. I think the new OP
(Ant) did it by creating new posts with variations in the spacing in the
subject title.

Defraggler works well.
And also try using just ONE post for the subject line, and not all these
variations in subject spacing, for all these multiple duplicated posts.

Ant wrote:
OK, I will try Defraggler then.


On 3/11/2009 11:32 AM PT, Gerry typed:

Phillip

Do not despair. That is a lot better than it was.

I do not know the answer to your question.

I would try Defraggler. You can defragment single files. Work throgh the
smaller files leaving the largest until the end.
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The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18:47 AM, and on a
whim, Gordon pounded out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.

There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.

There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?


Bill stated, "separate posts". As I said, there is only one "thread"
here. Anyone can change the subject line at any time.

But you are correct that within this thread, some changed the Subject.
But I don't have my headers set to show the full width, as usually a
Subject line isn't so long, so I didn't notice the change at the end.


Terry R.
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Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18:47 AM, and on a
whim, Gordon pounded out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.

There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.

There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?


Bill stated, "separate posts". As I said, there is only one "thread"
here. Anyone can change the subject line at any time.

But you are correct that within this thread, some changed the Subject.
But I don't have my headers set to show the full width, as usually a
Subject line isn't so long, so I didn't notice the change at the end.

If one changes the spacing in the subject line, as was done, it shows up as
a new thread in OE. IOW, it's not tiered or grouped underneath the
previous ones. Presumably the OP did this to create more responses.

The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:39:00 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Gerry wrote:
Gordon

You can change the subject in a thread. Someone needs to use "New message"
rather "Reply" to create a new thread.

I am changing the subject to demonstrate my point.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.

There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.
There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?

Exactly. And there have been several such variations. I think the new OP
(Ant) did it by creating new posts with variations in the spacing in the
subject title.



Hi Bill,

He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?


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The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:07:51 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18:47 AM, and on a
whim, Gordon pounded out on the keyboard:

"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.

There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.
There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?

Bill stated, "separate posts". As I said, there is only one "thread"
here. Anyone can change the subject line at any time.

But you are correct that within this thread, some changed the Subject.
But I don't have my headers set to show the full width, as usually a
Subject line isn't so long, so I didn't notice the change at the end.

If one changes the spacing in the subject line, as was done, it shows up as
a new thread in OE. IOW, it's not tiered or grouped underneath the
previous ones. Presumably the OP did this to create more responses.



Without starting a flame war, OE/WM has MANY flaws, the biggest IMO is
inserting a delimiter when using a sig and top posting that wipes out
everything when a proper newsreader replies. But you have pointed
another one.

On a "good newsreader", new threads aren't started just by modifying the
Subject. Read my reply to you regarding Google Groupers and see what it
takes to create new threads.


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The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:39:00 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Gerry wrote:
Gordon

You can change the subject in a thread. Someone needs to use "New
message"
rather "Reply" to create a new thread.

I am changing the subject to demonstrate my point.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.

There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.
There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?

Exactly. And there have been several such variations. I think the new
OP
(Ant) did it by creating new posts with variations in the spacing in the
subject title.



Hi Bill,

He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?

Yeah, it is. Why on earth would someone modify the subject line that way?

The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:43:40 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Terry R. wrote:
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:39:00 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Gerry wrote:
Gordon

You can change the subject in a thread. Someone needs to use "New
message"
rather "Reply" to create a new thread.

I am changing the subject to demonstrate my point.

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"Gordon" wrote in message
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"Terry R." wrote in message
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The date and time was Wednesday, March 11, 2009 10:01:34 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:

Why are there multiple separate posts on this with just some slight
variations in the subject line? One subject line for it is quite
enough.

There is only one thread I see, and the same subject for all.
There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?
Exactly. And there have been several such variations. I think the new
OP
(Ant) did it by creating new posts with variations in the spacing in the
subject title.


Hi Bill,

He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?

Yeah, it is. Why on earth would someone modify the subject line that way?



Usually because they aren't newsgroup savvy. He is kind of carrying on
the conversation using the Subject line, instead of adding to the post
itself.

Like I said, for good newsreaders it's no big deal as they are all still
in the same thread for me.


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Strange. I don't know why it adds spaces. I use multiple computers and
SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post. Sorry if it was my
fault (not sure how to fix that too).


On 3/12/2009 12:42 PM PT, Bill in Co. wrote:

And also try using just ONE post for the subject line, and not all these
variations in subject spacing, for all these multiple duplicated posts.
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He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?

Yeah, it is. Why on earth would someone modify the subject line that
way?

Usually because they aren't newsgroup savvy. He is kind of carrying on
the conversation using the Subject line, instead of adding to the post
itself.

Like I said, for good newsreaders it's no big deal as they are all still
in the same thread for me.

Strange. Sorry about that. I was trying to add brief information in the
newsgroup thread title.

I don't know why it adds spaces even though I didn't put that in. I use
multiple computers and SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post.
Sorry if it was my fault (not sure how to fix that too).
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On 3/12/2009 1:35 PM PT, Terry R. wrote:

On a "good newsreader", new threads aren't started just by modifying the
Subject. Read my reply to you regarding Google Groupers and see what it
takes to create new threads.

I hope it wasn't SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader fault. I do use mulitple
computers to read and post. I apologize if it was my side.
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Your newsreader does seem to add spaces in the subject. It has added two
spaces between disk and space, which were not there in the message you
relied to.

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"Phillip Pi" wrote in message
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He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?

Yeah, it is. Why on earth would someone modify the subject line that
way?

Usually because they aren't newsgroup savvy. He is kind of carrying on
the conversation using the Subject line, instead of adding to the post
itself.

Like I said, for good newsreaders it's no big deal as they are all still
in the same thread for me.

Strange. Sorry about that. I was trying to add brief information in the
newsgroup thread title.

I don't know why it adds spaces even though I didn't put that in. I use
multiple computers and SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post.
Sorry if it was my fault (not sure how to fix that too).
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Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
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