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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida |
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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
Boolworm Cowboy wrote:
You can get it from news.eternal-september.org Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida Change your sig name. I love books too, but not "bools". Ed |
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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
On 11/05/2014 08:12 AM, Ed Cryer wrote:
Boolworm Cowboy wrote: You can get it from news.eternal-september.org Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida Change your sig name. I love books too, but not "bools". Ed Shows up as "Book" here. -- Caver1 |
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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
On 05-Nov-2014 08:22, Caver1 wrote:
On 11/05/2014 08:12 AM, Ed Cryer wrote: Boolworm Cowboy wrote: You can get it from news.eternal-september.org Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida Change your sig name. I love books too, but not "bools". Ed Shows up as "Book" here. The sig says _Bookworm_ but the from says *Boolworm* -- Leala. |
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Completely OT reply
For a minute I thought Ed had mis-read until on 2nd look I see that I
missed the "boolworm" entirely reminding me of the poem I wrote many years ago: 21 sep 93 feeling blurry i looked up and saw a sign: OPTIMIST. i walked into the shop & said: that's exactly what we need in this world, more optimism. i could use some. at this point the OPTOMETRIST looked up and said: maybe... you just need new glasses. |
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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:08:37 -0500, Leala wrote:
On 05-Nov-2014 08:22, Caver1 wrote: On 11/05/2014 08:12 AM, Ed Cryer wrote: Boolworm Cowboy wrote: You can get it from news.eternal-september.org Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida Change your sig name. I love books too, but not "bools". Ed Shows up as "Book" here. The sig says _Bookworm_ but the from says *Boolworm* I just wish the rest of the news servers would pick up this group. They have thousands of dead groups that are no longer in use, and should be purged. But start a new group, and it takes them forever to add it. Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida |
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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
Bookworm Cowboy wrote:
On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:08:37 -0500, Leala wrote: On 05-Nov-2014 08:22, Caver1 wrote: On 11/05/2014 08:12 AM, Ed Cryer wrote: Boolworm Cowboy wrote: You can get it from news.eternal-september.org Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida Change your sig name. I love books too, but not "bools". Ed Shows up as "Book" here. The sig says _Bookworm_ but the from says *Boolworm* I just wish the rest of the news servers would pick up this group. They have thousands of dead groups that are no longer in use, and should be purged. But start a new group, and it takes them forever to add it. Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida The alt.* hierarchy uses a "light-weight" process. The Big-8 groups, on the other hand, have a democratic process involving writing a charter, bringing the group to a vote, and sending out signed control messages. That whole process takes forever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_8_(Usenet) You really shouldn't complain about how quickly alt.comp.os.windows-10 propagated. In fact it was "lightning fast". And the "lightweight manual" method of addition for alt.*, is why you're not going to find messages to alt.comp.os.windows-10 archived on groups.google.com. Nobody knows how to effectively communicate with Google :-) Hahaha. Google doesn't know the group exists. There is a process for removing groups too. If you visit uk.net.news.config for example, the activity starting Oct.30,2014 shows some steps taken to remove a few groups from uk.*. That's an example of a "democratic control process" for the groups list. For hierarchies with the "full process", you need a proponent to propose a group and a proponent to ask for the removal of a group. The former people are easier to find, than the latter. And that's why you won't find a lot of energy put into trimming the list. Some admins trim the list by hand, but that's another story. Admins generally don't do stuff like that - most admins "want to use the automation" of the server to their advantage (run the server using signed control messages). Only a few administrators get a kick out of editing the groups list by hand. It's a lot of work. If your administrator trims the list by hand, and you notice something you use goes missing, contact them and they'll generally put it back right away. If a control message was sent, "officially" doing an rmgroup from all servers, the administrator will instead explain that no server carries the group any more. So there would be no point adding it back by hand. The server has dual controls, and lots of freedom as to how you do things. A smart administrator, lets the automation do the work. Hand editing is for the birds. As it is, the administrator is pretty busy tending to DDOS attacks, adjusting CleanFeed to stop Chinese running shoe adverts from showing up, and so on. No time or energy for hand-editing the newsgroup list... Paul |
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You can get it from news.eternal-september.org
On Fri, 07 Nov 2014 06:22:05 -0500, Paul wrote:
Bookworm Cowboy wrote: On Wed, 05 Nov 2014 09:08:37 -0500, Leala wrote: On 05-Nov-2014 08:22, Caver1 wrote: On 11/05/2014 08:12 AM, Ed Cryer wrote: Boolworm Cowboy wrote: You can get it from news.eternal-september.org Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida Change your sig name. I love books too, but not "bools". Ed Shows up as "Book" here. The sig says _Bookworm_ but the from says *Boolworm* I just wish the rest of the news servers would pick up this group. They have thousands of dead groups that are no longer in use, and should be purged. But start a new group, and it takes them forever to add it. Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida The alt.* hierarchy uses a "light-weight" process. The Big-8 groups, on the other hand, have a democratic process involving writing a charter, bringing the group to a vote, and sending out signed control messages. That whole process takes forever. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_8_(Usenet) You really shouldn't complain about how quickly alt.comp.os.windows-10 propagated. In fact it was "lightning fast". And the "lightweight manual" method of addition for alt.*, is why you're not going to find messages to alt.comp.os.windows-10 archived on groups.google.com. Nobody knows how to effectively communicate with Google :-) Hahaha. Google doesn't know the group exists. There is a process for removing groups too. If you visit uk.net.news.config for example, the activity starting Oct.30,2014 shows some steps taken to remove a few groups from uk.*. That's an example of a "democratic control process" for the groups list. For hierarchies with the "full process", you need a proponent to propose a group and a proponent to ask for the removal of a group. The former people are easier to find, than the latter. And that's why you won't find a lot of energy put into trimming the list. Some admins trim the list by hand, but that's another story. Admins generally don't do stuff like that - most admins "want to use the automation" of the server to their advantage (run the server using signed control messages). Only a few administrators get a kick out of editing the groups list by hand. It's a lot of work. If your administrator trims the list by hand, and you notice something you use goes missing, contact them and they'll generally put it back right away. If a control message was sent, "officially" doing an rmgroup from all servers, the administrator will instead explain that no server carries the group any more. So there would be no point adding it back by hand. The server has dual controls, and lots of freedom as to how you do things. A smart administrator, lets the automation do the work. Hand editing is for the birds. As it is, the administrator is pretty busy tending to DDOS attacks, adjusting CleanFeed to stop Chinese running shoe adverts from showing up, and so on. No time or energy for hand-editing the newsgroup list... Paul Yep, this is the reason why people have the false impression that USENET is dead. Many of the groups have messages dating back to 2012, 2008, and older. It should be quite obvious that USENET Group should be purged, so people can find the active ones. There are quite a few USENET groups that are extremely active, but if you're not familiar were they are, or how to locate them; you would get the false impression USENET is dead. The people overseeing USENET are the ones killing it, because they will not purge the inactive groups so people can easily find the active ones. As for Google Groups, I use it to locate the active USENET groups. I'm quite interested in Windows 10, because I think Windows 8.1 sucks. I also know many people are interested in the topic, and I wish the USENET servers would update their list, and carrier group to increase activity. My main paid USENET server doesn't carry this group YET, but news.eternal-september.org dose. The funny part, news.eternal-september.org is a free USENET server. Regards, Bookworm Cowboy Lakeland, Florida |
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