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  #16  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
Richard Urban
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL NOT be
able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!


--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)


"relic" wrote in message
...
Richard Urban wrote:
Uhh!

Read the original post, and see how silly YOU kook!


Nope, it didn't have anything to do with the OP but to two particular

replies
that you replied to. linux user?


Since you don't seem able to read/follow threads: The two posts that made

your
comment to JohnR look silly:

Bob Harris wrote:
"If this is a brand new hard drive, right out of the box, then it is

neither
partitioned nor formated, so of course DOS won't see it."

JohnR replied:
"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

Then you replied to JohnR:
"He said that the BIOS was showing no drives as detected. How do you think
that DOS will see what the computer itself doesn't?"


Your comment was asinine in respect to the two-post exchange you replied

it
to.


HTH & GF
--
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They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.



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  #17  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
relic
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!


Unbelievable. You are the stupidest person I've encountered on usenet.

--
- relic -
They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.
  #18  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
Diogenes
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

--
Diogenes
  #19  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
TehGhodTrole III
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!



Are you /really/ that stupid?

  #20  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
Trollslayer@thecave
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Without thinking
Tony Hwang spewed forth with the following drivel:

Trollslayer@thecave wrote:

Without thinking
Andrew Bestfrenn spewed forth with the
following drivel:


I am installing a new hard drive onto a system
w/ asus A7V133 motherboard .
Trying to format it and install winxp.
I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe

When it is booting up
it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip)
detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip)

etc. and then lists all drives as not there
ie: primary master: none
etc.

It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt
but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the
D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM)
none of the commands work
A:FORMAT does not work
FORMAT/ u does not work
FORMAT / s does not work
FDISK does not work
please help
how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc.
on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of
some kind.



Check that the jumpers are set correctly. Most of the time when a
drive is not recognized it's for that reason.

Hi,
What kinda hard drive?
Tony


Why are you responding to me nitwit.

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  #21  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
Trollslayer@thecave
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP


Without thinking
relic spewed forth with the following drivel:

Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!


Unbelievable. You are the stupidest person I've encountered on
usenet.


WOW! That's quite a statement! Especially considering the nitwits in the
public froups.

--
Buster

Gatekeeper: alt.os.windows-xp


  #22  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
Andrew Bestfrenn
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

"relic" wrote in message . ..
Andrew Bestfrenn wrote:
I am installing a new hard drive onto a system
w/ asus A7V133 motherboard .
Trying to format it and install winxp.
I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe

When it is booting up
it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip)
detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip)

etc. and then lists all drives as not there
ie: primary master: none
etc.

It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt
but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the
D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM)
none of the commands work
A:FORMAT does not work
FORMAT/ u does not work
FORMAT / s does not work
FDISK does not work
please help
how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc.
on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of
some kind.



What else did you do? /Just/ installing a new HDD won't cause your problem
unless you didn't get the IDE Cable back on correctly.

--------
thankyou for all who are trying to help:

what initially caused the problem was that
I tried to install winxp from a cd in drive D.
I got a warning suggesting I use smartdrive.exe
but tried to install without it. I got all sorts
of messages saying 'file not copied exactly' etc.
eventually the system froze and I had to reboot
with WINXP partially installed , and voila: no
drives could be detected.

Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios
trying different settings.
It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive
I tried setting the bios to:

user type: HDD
Translation method: manual
cylinders: 16383
head: 16
sector: 63
multisector transfers: maximum
smart monitoring: enabled
PIO mode: 4
Ultra DMA mode: 2

I saved the new settings and rebooted
this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail'
while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc.
as: none

It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to.
From there I tried a program called Device Manager
It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited.
I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS
to detect the hard drive.
NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get
into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to
enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes
me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the
bios
setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed
as
'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from
'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in.
I get two thoroughly demoralizing
options, either 'none' or 'disabled' Now what do I do?
  #23  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
relic
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Andrew Bestfrenn wrote:
"relic" wrote in message
. ..
Andrew Bestfrenn wrote:
I am installing a new hard drive onto a system
w/ asus A7V133 motherboard .
Trying to format it and install winxp.
I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe

When it is booting up
it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip)
detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip)

etc. and then lists all drives as not there
ie: primary master: none
etc.

It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt
but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the
D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM)
none of the commands work
A:FORMAT does not work
FORMAT/ u does not work
FORMAT / s does not work
FDISK does not work
please help
how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc.
on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of
some kind.



What else did you do? /Just/ installing a new HDD won't cause your
problem unless you didn't get the IDE Cable back on correctly.

--------
thankyou for all who are trying to help:

what initially caused the problem was that
I tried to install winxp from a cd in drive D.
I got a warning suggesting I use smartdrive.exe
but tried to install without it. I got all sorts
of messages saying 'file not copied exactly' etc.
eventually the system froze and I had to reboot
with WINXP partially installed , and voila: no
drives could be detected.

Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios
trying different settings.
It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive
I tried setting the bios to:

user type: HDD
Translation method: manual
cylinders: 16383
head: 16
sector: 63
multisector transfers: maximum
smart monitoring: enabled
PIO mode: 4
Ultra DMA mode: 2

I saved the new settings and rebooted
this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail'
while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc.
as: none

It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to.
From there I tried a program called Device Manager
It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited.
I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS
to detect the hard drive.
NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get
into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to
enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes
me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the
bios
setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed
as
'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from
'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in.
I get two thoroughly demoralizing
options, either 'none' or 'disabled' Now what do I do?


--
- relic -
They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.
  #24  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
TehGhodTrole III
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

relic wrote:
Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!


Unbelievable. You are the stupidest person I've encountered on
usenet.


Richard Urban = Crusty Old *******. Look at some of Urban's previous posts
and you'll see that he's a whole lot stupider than you think.

http://tinyurl.com/24whp

(Note that he is a microsoft.public poster too :-(*) )

  #25  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
relic
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Andrew Bestfrenn wrote:

thankyou for all who are trying to help:

what initially caused the problem was that
I tried to install winxp from a cd in drive D.
I got a warning suggesting I use smartdrive.exe
but tried to install without it. I got all sorts
of messages saying 'file not copied exactly' etc.
eventually the system froze and I had to reboot
with WINXP partially installed , and voila: no
drives could be detected.

Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios
trying different settings.
It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive
I tried setting the bios to:

user type: HDD
Translation method: manual
cylinders: 16383
head: 16
sector: 63
multisector transfers: maximum
smart monitoring: enabled
PIO mode: 4
Ultra DMA mode: 2

I saved the new settings and rebooted
this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail'
while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc.
as: none

It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to.
From there I tried a program called Device Manager
It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited.
I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS
to detect the hard drive.
NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get
into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to
enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes
me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the
bios
setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed
as
'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from
'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in.
I get two thoroughly demoralizing
options, either 'none' or 'disabled' Now what do I do?


You won't be able to select a boot device that isn't seen first.

1. If you set the IDE Devices to Auto, do they detect anything?
2. What make/model is your Motherboard?
3. Where did you get the XP CD? It sounds like a copy of a KaZaA download,
not a Microsoft Windows XP CD.

--
- relic -
They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

  #26  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
relic
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Trollslayer@thecave wrote:
Without thinking
relic spewed forth with the following drivel:

Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!


Unbelievable. You are the stupidest person I've encountered on
usenet.


WOW! That's quite a statement! Especially considering the nitwits in
the public froups.


Seems he *is* a microsoft.public froup poster. I'll have to change that from
"the stupidest" to "one of the stupidest" I guess.

--
- relic -
They call it PMS because Mad Cow Disease was already taken.

  #27  
Old January 9th 04, 03:10 PM
Trollslayer@thecave
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

Without thinking
relic spewed forth with the following drivel:

Trollslayer@thecave wrote:
Without thinking
relic spewed forth with the following
drivel:

Richard Urban wrote:
I replied to the statement

"DOS can still see it. What else would fdisk and format be for?"

If the drive is not detected during the P.O.S.T, DOS certainly WILL
NOT be able to see it!

With that, GoodBy!

Unbelievable. You are the stupidest person I've encountered on
usenet.


WOW! That's quite a statement! Especially considering the nitwits in
the public froups.


Seems he *is* a microsoft.public froup poster. I'll have to change
that from "the stupidest" to "one of the stupidest" I guess.


It's like swimming in a sea of stupidity in there...seeing the stupidest is
impossible. LMAO

--
Buster

Gatekeeper: alt.os.windows-xp



  #28  
Old January 9th 04, 03:11 PM
gw
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Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

If the BIOS cannot see the drive, you're not going to get anywhere!!

Is there a BIOS limitation preventing you from seeing the drive? The A7V133
is an "older" mobo.

You need to answer Relic's questions about your config.

"Richard Urban" wrote in message
...
If the drive isn't detected, why do you think you can format that which
isn't there? Check your cables. Check your bios settings. Check everything
considered hardware.

--
Regards

Richard Urban
aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)

*****************************

"Andrew Bestfrenn" wrote in message
om...
I am installing a new hard drive onto a system
w/ asus A7V133 motherboard .
Trying to format it and install winxp.
I have made a boot disk that includes smartdrive.exe

When it is booting up
it says: detecting primary master (press F4 to skip)
detecting secondary master (press F4 to skip)

etc. and then lists all drives as not there
ie: primary master: none
etc.

It then is able to boot to the DOS prompt
but that is as far as I can go. Cannot get to the
D: prompt, because it has not detected drive D (cd ROM)
none of the commands work
A:FORMAT does not work
FORMAT/ u does not work
FORMAT / s does not work
FDISK does not work
please help
how do I get it to detect my hard drive etc.
on bootup? I think it is a bios setting of
some kind.





  #30  
Old January 9th 04, 03:11 PM
Andrew Bestfrenn
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Posts: n/a
Default NO DRIVES DETECTED, installing WINXP

"relic" wrote in message . ..
Andrew Bestfrenn wrote:


Now I have an even bigger problem. I was in the bios
trying different settings.
It is a Fujitsu MPC3102A hard drive
I tried setting the bios to:

user type: HDD
Translation method: manual
cylinders: 16383
head: 16
sector: 63
multisector transfers: maximum
smart monitoring: enabled
PIO mode: 4
Ultra DMA mode: 2

I saved the new settings and rebooted
this time it booted up and said 'primary master fail'
while listing primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave etc.
as: none

It seemed to be at least detecting the hard drive or trying to.
From there I tried a program called Device Manager
It said 'cannot detect hard disk' so I exited.
I kept trying to get either Device Manager or the BIOS
to detect the hard drive.
NOW, I have somehow reset the bios so that I cannot get even get
into the IDE settings. When I bootup from A drive, I press delete to
enter setup, but now hen I enter setup, it no longer takes
me straight to the boot menu, but to the main menu instead. From the
bios
setup main menu, I go to the boot menu, and IDE hard drive is listed
as
'none' . When I try to change the IDE hard drive setting from
'none' (and get back to the IDE parameter settings) , I cannot get in.
I get two thoroughly demoralizing
options, either 'none' or 'disabled' Now what do I do?

----------
You won't be able to select a boot device that isn't seen first.

1. If you set the IDE Devices to Auto, do they detect anything?
2. What make/model is your Motherboard?
3. Where did you get the XP CD? It sounds like a copy of a KaZaA download,
not a Microsoft Windows XP CD.

--------
1. no, it was initially set to autodetect for the IDE hard drive,
and though it did not detect the IDE drive, at least it allowed
me several options other than 'auto' when I clicked on it. (user
type, etc.) Now that I have switched it from 'auto' to 'none' ,
when I click on 'none', to change it, it only gives me one other
option: 'disabled', so therefore I can't switch it back to autodetect
or even get in to manually set the parameters.
2. the motherboard is an asus a7V133
3. the xp cd is a download

thankyou for your help and interest
 




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