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Old January 3rd 17, 03:08 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ron Hardin
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Default Gradual out of disk space - fidbox.dat

In case anybody didn't know about it, there's a
remnant from some popular virus scanner that gives
you a growing file that eventually gets big enough
to matter.

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.dat

It's harmless to delete (and will grow again over
a period of months) but you have to be in safe
mode.

A smaller one

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.idx

can be deleted at the same time.

The feature stays there long after the virus
scanner has gone.

It's worthwhile to check if you have them.
--


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Old January 3rd 17, 07:44 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Gradual out of disk space - fidbox.dat

Ron Hardin wrote:

In case anybody didn't know about it, there's a remnant from some
popular virus scanner that gives you a growing file that eventually
gets big enough to matter.

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.dat

It's harmless to delete (and will grow again over a period of months)
but you have to be in safe mode. A smaller one

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.idx

can be deleted at the same time.

The feature stays there long after the virus scanner has gone. It's
worthwhile to check if you have them.


How is that info going to help anyone since you deliberately chose to
omit WHICH anti-virus program is modifying that file? There a tons of
anti-virus programs available. Your post is like saying "A certain
program to remain unnamed will crash the OS when you use its File -
Save dialog". Uh huh, yeah, like who would know what to look out for.

If the "feature stays there long after the virus scanner is gone", where
"gone" is assumed to mean uninstalled, then the program wasn't really
uninstalled, was it? It's still there updating that file. Perhaps the
partial uninstall is why the remnant process doesn't properly manage
that file. Some anti-virus software has an incomplete uninstall which
not only leaves behind remnant registry entries and files but also
leaves behind remnant active processes; however, you won't name the
crappy software. Thanks for nothing.

Is it a secrete anti-virus program that you created for only your own
use or software that only you are supposed to know about? Without
identifying specifics, you're just spreading FUD.
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Old January 3rd 17, 10:10 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Ron Hardin
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Default Gradual out of disk space - fidbox.dat

VanguardLH wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

In case anybody didn't know about it, there's a remnant from some
popular virus scanner that gives you a growing file that eventually
gets big enough to matter.

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.dat

It's harmless to delete (and will grow again over a period of months)
but you have to be in safe mode. A smaller one

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.idx

can be deleted at the same time.

The feature stays there long after the virus scanner has gone. It's
worthwhile to check if you have them.


How is that info going to help anyone since you deliberately chose to
omit WHICH anti-virus program is modifying that file? There a tons of
anti-virus programs available. Your post is like saying "A certain
program to remain unnamed will crash the OS when you use its File -
Save dialog". Uh huh, yeah, like who would know what to look out for.

If the "feature stays there long after the virus scanner is gone", where
"gone" is assumed to mean uninstalled, then the program wasn't really
uninstalled, was it? It's still there updating that file. Perhaps the
partial uninstall is why the remnant process doesn't properly manage
that file. Some anti-virus software has an incomplete uninstall which
not only leaves behind remnant registry entries and files but also
leaves behind remnant active processes; however, you won't name the
crappy software. Thanks for nothing.

Is it a secrete anti-virus program that you created for only your own
use or software that only you are supposed to know about? Without
identifying specifics, you're just spreading FUD.


I think it's a common module from Kapersky code. Just check if you have the file.

It's a roach motel kind of thing. It stays behind no matter what.

I think for instance Zone Alarm installs it, and maybe AVG, in old versions at least.

Harmless to delete but it will grow again and you delete again after a few months.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.
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Old January 3rd 17, 11:30 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
VanguardLH[_2_]
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Default Gradual out of disk space - fidbox.dat

Ron Hardin wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:

In case anybody didn't know about it, there's a remnant from some
popular virus scanner that gives you a growing file that eventually
gets big enough to matter.

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.dat

It's harmless to delete (and will grow again over a period of months)
but you have to be in safe mode. A smaller one

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.idx

can be deleted at the same time.

The feature stays there long after the virus scanner has gone. It's
worthwhile to check if you have them.


How is that info going to help anyone since you deliberately chose to
omit WHICH anti-virus program is modifying that file? There a tons of
anti-virus programs available. Your post is like saying "A certain
program to remain unnamed will crash the OS when you use its File -
Save dialog". Uh huh, yeah, like who would know what to look out for.

If the "feature stays there long after the virus scanner is gone", where
"gone" is assumed to mean uninstalled, then the program wasn't really
uninstalled, was it? It's still there updating that file. Perhaps the
partial uninstall is why the remnant process doesn't properly manage
that file. Some anti-virus software has an incomplete uninstall which
not only leaves behind remnant registry entries and files but also
leaves behind remnant active processes; however, you won't name the
crappy software. Thanks for nothing.

Is it a secrete anti-virus program that you created for only your own
use or software that only you are supposed to know about? Without
identifying specifics, you're just spreading FUD.


I think it's a common module from Kapersky code. Just check if you have the file.

It's a roach motel kind of thing. It stays behind no matter what.

I think for instance Zone Alarm installs it, and maybe AVG, in old versions at least.

Harmless to delete but it will grow again and you delete again after a few months.


Here's what I found for Kaspersky:

https://support.kaspersky.com/1700

While that article discusses the Enterprise edition, the feature may be
available in other editions.

My recollection of Kaspersky (but it might've been a different
anti-virus program) was that it use alternate data streams of files to
record whether or not a file had already been tested. A hash and flag
got recorded in a file's alternate stream to identify the file (the hash
would check if the file had been changed since the last time it got
recorded) and the flag said whether that file already got tested or not.
That way, the AV scanner did not have to spend time retesting the same
unchanged files over and over. Alternate data streams are a property of
NTFS so you must be using that file system to make use of ADS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS#A...eams_.28ADS.29

Apparently either Kaspersky abandoned using ADS or it was something else
that used ADS to track scanned files. Instead of using ADS, Kaspersky
is [now] using its own database.

However, if you uninstalled Kaspersky per your "The feature stays there
long after the virus scanner has gone" then having any of its process
lingering around to continue building the database sure makes it look
like you did not [completely] uninstall Kaspersky.
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Old January 4th 17, 07:56 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
JJ[_11_]
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Default Gradual out of disk space - fidbox.dat

On Tue, 03 Jan 2017 17:10:47 -0500, Ron Hardin wrote:

I think it's a common module from Kapersky code. Just check if you have the file.

It's a roach motel kind of thing. It stays behind no matter what.

I think for instance Zone Alarm installs it, and maybe AVG, in old versions at least.

Harmless to delete but it will grow again and you delete again after a few months.


Try going into safe mode, delete that file, then create a subfolder using
the exact name. i.e.

c:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\fidbox.dat

If whichever software is creating that file doesn't complain and doesn't
delete that subfolder and replace it with a file, it'll never eat the disk
space again.
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Old April 3rd 17, 02:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Default Gradual out of disk space - fidbox.dat

On Tuesday, 3 January 2017 23:08:32 UTC+8, Ron Hardin wrote:
In case anybody didn't know about it, there's a
remnant from some popular virus scanner that gives
you a growing file that eventually gets big enough
to matter.

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.dat

It's harmless to delete (and will grow again over
a period of months) but you have to be in safe
mode.

A smaller one

c:WINDOWS/system32/drivers/fidbox.idx

can be deleted at the same time.

The feature stays there long after the virus
scanner has gone.

It's worthwhile to check if you have them.
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.


 




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