WSL2 built-in Linux kernel confirmed for Windows 10 version 2004 for general purpose use

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to everyone soon
https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an update
adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small price to pay
if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace and harmony.
It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel will now be delivered
through Windows Update instead of forcing you to install an entire
Windows image"
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Arlen Holder wrote:

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to everyone soon
https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/
windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an update
adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small price to pay
if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace and harmony.
It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel will now be delivered
through Windows Update instead of forcing you to install an entire
Windows image"

I don't get it. Dual-boot already has Linux and Windows coexistng
"in peace and harmony".

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:29:19 -0500
Ned Latham wrote:

Arlen Holder wrote:

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to everyone
soon https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/
windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an
update adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small
price to pay if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace and
harmony. It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel will now
be delivered through Windows Update instead of forcing you to
install an entire Windows image"

I don't get it. Dual-boot already has Linux and Windows coexistng
"in peace and harmony".

It's more of Microsoft's desperate attempt to remain viable
and significant in a world which increasingly has no use for any of
their products. They are trying to convince the ignorant that GNU/Linux
can only be used from inside a Microsoft environment where,
incidentally, you can be surreptitiously tracked, must use various
anti-something-to_fear software, and owe them money for the
'privilege'.

--
Cybe R. Wizard

My other computer is a HOLMES IV with the Mycroft OS
My other car is a Chandler MetalSmith Mark III
Cybe R. Wizard

Arlen Holder wrote in
:

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to everyone
soon
https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/...-kernel-availa
ble-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an
update
adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small price
to pay if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace and
harmony. It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel will
now be delivered through Windows Update instead of forcing you
to install an entire Windows image"

Actually, one can download the SDK and the Visual Basic preview AND
the emulator for their Windows 10X upcoming OS.

It will feature containerized managed apps like Apple, BUT it will
also still allow user installed executables within a safe conatiner
space.
If that is, that is what you are referring to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjyVpfw3RT0

Ned Latham wrote in
:

Arlen Holder wrote:

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to
everyone soon
https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/
windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an
update adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small
price to pay if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace
and harmony. It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel
will now be delivered through Windows Update instead of forcing
you to install an entire Windows image"

I don't get it. Dual-boot already has Linux and Windows coexistng
"in peace and harmony".


You could have simply stopped at "I don't get it."

Bwuahahahahah!

"Cybe R. Wizard" wrote in
news:20200314174011.07208c09@WizardsTower:

On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:29:19 -0500
Ned Latham wrote:

Arlen Holder wrote:

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to
everyone soon https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/
windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an
update adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small
price to pay if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace
and harmony. It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel
will now be delivered through Windows Update instead of forcing
you to install an entire Windows image"

I don't get it. Dual-boot already has Linux and Windows coexistng
"in peace and harmony".

It's more of Microsoft's desperate attempt to remain viable
and significant in a world which increasingly has no use for any
of their products. They are trying to convince the ignorant that
GNU/Linux can only be used from inside a Microsoft environment
where, incidentally, you can be surreptitiously tracked, must use
various anti-something-to_fear software, and owe them money for
the 'privilege'.


True for what is out now, but not true for what is coming.
Apps are no longer full system wide privileged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjyVpfw3RT0

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
Ned Latham wrote:
Arlen Holder wrote:

o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to everyone
soon https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/
windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an
update adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small
price to pay if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace and
harmony. It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel will now
be delivered through Windows Update instead of forcing you to
install an entire Windows image"

I don't get it. Dual-boot already has Linux and Windows coexistng
"in peace and harmony".

It's more of Microsoft's desperate attempt to remain viable
and significant in a world which increasingly has no use for any of
their products. They are trying to convince the ignorant that GNU/Linux
can only be used from inside a Microsoft environment where,
incidentally, you can be surreptitiously tracked, must use various
anti-something-to_fear software, and owe them money for the
'privilege'.

LOL

Got it. Indeed, why didneye think of that?

Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2020 17:29:19 -0500
Ned Latham wrote:

Arlen Holder wrote:
o Windows 10's built-in Linux kernel will be available to everyone
soon https://www.engadget.com/2020/03/14/
windows-10-linux-kernel-available-soon/

"You'll have to install it manually for a few months until an
update adds automatic installs and updates, but that's a small
price to pay if you want Linux and Windows to coexist in peace and
harmony. It'll be easier to set up, at least -- the kernel will now
be delivered through Windows Update instead of forcing you to
install an entire Windows image"
I don't get it. Dual-boot already has Linux and Windows coexistng
"in peace and harmony".

It's more of Microsoft's desperate attempt to remain viable
and significant in a world which increasingly has no use for any of
their products. They are trying to convince the ignorant that GNU/Linux
can only be used from inside a Microsoft environment where,
incidentally, you can be surreptitiously tracked, must use various
anti-something-to_fear software, and owe them money for the
'privilege'.


That can't be it, because the ignorant don't know it's there.

Features are not advertised very well in Windows - you have
to discover them by reading articles on an Enthusiast site.
And Microsoft is so cheap, they won't put diagrams in a lot
of their materials, to better illustrate what they're doing
or for that matter, how to use it. Again, the enthusiast sites
fill in the gaps. Some of the new techs, they have done
videos, and you can actually view the videos, but that's
not always the best way to do it either. (You may not be
able to read the dialog boxes in a video.)

This is some kind of tech experiment, is all I can guess.
I don't think it has a strategy. Not for anyone here at least.

https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=95426

"Yes, WSL2 is not compatible with Virtualbox, due to WSL2
using Hyper-V, which uses VT-x exclusively and doesn't share
it with Virtualbox.

To use Virtualbox properly, for now*, you have to have Hyper-V off,
which turns off anything that uses Hyper-V.

*The developers are working on ways to allow Virtualbox to
coexist with Hyper-V - actually, to use Hyper-V instead of
the Virtualbox substructure - but it's still very much a work
in progress. For now it's one or the other.
"

This is the kind of stuff you do, during "the year of the Container".

And what the "year of the Container" should mean to most people,
is a series of "un-debuggable situations" on their computer.
Newer technologies, where you can't figure out why the **** they
don't work. An example being, the gforth developer who can't
figure out why the Snap version of his stuff, runs slower
than the .deb version. If a developer has no tools to figure
out how containerization broke something, what hope do the
rest of us have ? So if your WSL2 goes tits up, what
will you do exactly ? Doing Russian Dolls on everything,
is so '60s. It's like bringing back Mainframes and paying
a tithe to the Gods of Computing, for no particular reason.

For consumers, containers are a disease. For some value
of hand-cuffs.

Containers, at best, give you 90% the speed of regular
computing, so you're always paying a price for this.

Don't throw away your old OSes just yet.

And as for WSL2, for some people it's going to throw an
error and not install. If I plugged my E4700 into this
machine (would run Win10), WSL2 won't work.

Paul