Install firewall or antivirus first?

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:19:37 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

Jyeshta wrote:


In my opinion, Avast antivirus is better than AVG. I had AVG and it's
soon to be a paid-for program, no longer free,


No, that's not correct. The old free version is (or will soon be) no longer
supported. However
the new AVG 7.5 is still free.

See http://free.grisoft.com/doc/2/lng/us/tpl/v5

As I said, I stand corrected.

plus Avast found four
Trojans on my computer that AVG never detected. Avast is still free,
and better than AVG.


No two antivirus programs detect exactly the same set of viruses, trojans,
etc. They all mostly overlap, but any single program will detect some
malware that any single other program will miss. None is perfect.

So Avast may have found some Trojans that AVG missed, but AVG undoubtedly is
able to detect other malware that Avast would miss.

All that said, I personally prefer Avast. But they are both good products.

I would agree with that. I was happy with AVG until I thought I
needed to switch because I had mistakenly thought it was soon to
become a paid-for application. So I switched to Avast and it found
those 4 Trojans.

And when I asked my Outlook Express question awhile back, the least
you could have done was direct me to the relatively new (on my server)
Oulook Express group because when I got this new computer in June and
I was subscribing to newsgroups, the only Outlook Express group I
could see was a Chinese one. After I refreshed the new newsgroups in
my newsreader, I finally found the one Malke had referred someone else
to.

So shame on you all for ignoring me then.

Gail

Jyeshta wrote:

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:19:37 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

All that said, I personally prefer Avast. But they are both good
products.

I would agree with that. I was happy with AVG until I thought I
needed to switch because I had mistakenly thought it was soon to
become a paid-for application. So I switched to Avast and it found
those 4 Trojans.

And when I asked my Outlook Express question awhile back, the least
you could have done was direct me to the relatively new (on my server)
Oulook Express group because when I got this new computer in June and
I was subscribing to newsgroups, the only Outlook Express group I
could see was a Chinese one. After I refreshed the new newsgroups in
my newsreader, I finally found the one Malke had referred someone else
to.

So shame on you all for ignoring me then.


I beg your pardon? Let me make this very clear. This is a peer support
newsgroup. We are all just Windows XP users here, helping each other if and
when we can. We are not Microsoft employees (not even those of us with
"Microsoft MVP" behind our names; that's an honorary title for having
provided consistently helpful advice) except for an occasional employee who
posts here unofficially on his own time.

Nobody owes you or anyone else any kind of help here. If you didn't get an
answer to a question you asked, it may be because nobody knew the answer, it
may be because you asked it poorly and nobody understood the question, it
may be because the person who knew the answer didn't have the time for
newsgroups that day. It may be for lots of other reasons. I don't remember
the particular question you mention, and I have no idea why I didn't answer
it. I may not have even seen it.

If you don't like the free service you get here, take your business
someplace where you pay for what you get and where you can legitimately
complain about not getting answers. I don't appreciate getting complaints
from someone who I tried to help.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 12:54:17 -0600, Jyeshta
wrote:

And when I asked my Outlook Express question awhile back, the least
you could have done was direct me to the relatively new (on my server)
Oulook Express group because when I got this new computer in June and
I was subscribing to newsgroups, the only Outlook Express group I
could see was a Chinese one. After I refreshed the new newsgroups in
my newsreader, I finally found the one Malke had referred someone else
to.

So shame on you all for ignoring me then.

Gail

I'm sorry. That was harsh. I am going through a really bad time
right now - that's all I can say to excuse myself.

I've gotten a lot of help before that in this newsgroup, and I really
am grateful for it.

So, with appreciation,
Gail

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:50:37 -0000, "John Barnett MVP"
wrote:

Gail, everyone has there own personal preference when it comes to software.
I've tried free versions of AVG (which incidentally 'is' staying free) and
Avast and find them equally as good. Some people will use nothing else but
Norton Anti Virus or Mcafee. Personally, i wouldn't touch either Norton or
Mcafee, but that is my personal opinion.
My brother recently had a new laptop, it came pre-installed with Norton
Internet Security. As soon as we finished registering and activating the
laptop i immediately stripped Norton internet security off the laptop and
installed AVG and Zone Alarm.

Hi John,

I know everyone has their personal preference. I liked AVG a lot. I
was just very startled when Avast found those 4 Trojans that AVG
hadn't detected. But I was happy with AVG for many years.

Gail

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:22:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

Jyeshta wrote:

On Thu, 4 Jan 2007 15:19:37 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

All that said, I personally prefer Avast. But they are both good
products.

I would agree with that. I was happy with AVG until I thought I
needed to switch because I had mistakenly thought it was soon to
become a paid-for application. So I switched to Avast and it found
those 4 Trojans.

And when I asked my Outlook Express question awhile back, the least
you could have done was direct me to the relatively new (on my server)
Oulook Express group because when I got this new computer in June and
I was subscribing to newsgroups, the only Outlook Express group I
could see was a Chinese one. After I refreshed the new newsgroups in
my newsreader, I finally found the one Malke had referred someone else
to.

So shame on you all for ignoring me then.


I beg your pardon? Let me make this very clear. This is a peer support
newsgroup. We are all just Windows XP users here, helping each other if and
when we can. We are not Microsoft employees (not even those of us with
"Microsoft MVP" behind our names; that's an honorary title for having
provided consistently helpful advice) except for an occasional employee who
posts here unofficially on his own time.

Nobody owes you or anyone else any kind of help here. If you didn't get an
answer to a question you asked, it may be because nobody knew the answer, it
may be because you asked it poorly and nobody understood the question, it
may be because the person who knew the answer didn't have the time for
newsgroups that day. It may be for lots of other reasons. I don't remember
the particular question you mention, and I have no idea why I didn't answer
it. I may not have even seen it.

If you don't like the free service you get here, take your business
someplace where you pay for what you get and where you can legitimately
complain about not getting answers. I don't appreciate getting complaints
from someone who I tried to help.

I have apologized in another post. Of course I realize that no one
here owes me anything. It just hurt a lot to be ignored when other
people with Outlook Express questions were getting referred to the
proper newsgroup.

As I said, I am going through hell at this time in my life. I
apologize for lashing out.

You *have* given me much useful help on this newsgroup, as have some
others. I *am* grateful for it.

With appreciation and best wishes,
Gail

Jyeshta wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:22:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

If you don't like the free service you get here, take your business
someplace where you pay for what you get and where you can
legitimately complain about not getting answers. I don't appreciate
getting complaints from someone who I tried to help.

I have apologized in another post. Of course I realize that no one
here owes me anything. It just hurt a lot to be ignored when other
people with Outlook Express questions were getting referred to the
proper newsgroup.


Once again, I don't remember the circumstances, and can't tell what happened
or why, but I'm sure it was nothing personal.


As I said, I am going through hell at this time in my life. I
apologize for lashing out.

You *have* given me much useful help on this newsgroup, as have some
others. I *am* grateful for it.

With appreciation and best wishes,


Thank you for your very generous apology, which I'm happy to accept. I'm
sorry to hear about your problems, and I wish you the best. No hard
feelings.

--
Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 13:30:03 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

Jyeshta wrote:

On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 12:22:13 -0700, "Ken Blake, MVP"
wrote:

If you don't like the free service you get here, take your business
someplace where you pay for what you get and where you can
legitimately complain about not getting answers. I don't appreciate
getting complaints from someone who I tried to help.

I have apologized in another post. Of course I realize that no one
here owes me anything. It just hurt a lot to be ignored when other
people with Outlook Express questions were getting referred to the
proper newsgroup.


Once again, I don't remember the circumstances, and can't tell what happened
or why, but I'm sure it was nothing personal.


As I said, I am going through hell at this time in my life. I
apologize for lashing out.

You *have* given me much useful help on this newsgroup, as have some
others. I *am* grateful for it.

With appreciation and best wishes,


Thank you for your very generous apology, which I'm happy to accept. I'm
sorry to hear about your problems, and I wish you the best. No hard
feelings.

Thank you, Ken. I wish you, and all the other very kind souls here,
all the best in 2007.

Gail

Each anti virus application has a different way of searching/handling
viruses, each using a different algoirthum, so some will pick up one
virus/trojan while another won't. Either way for 'free' AVG is a good bet!


--
John Barnett MVP
Associate Expert
Windows Shell/User

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On Fri, 5 Jan 2007 18:50:37 -0000, "John Barnett MVP"
wrote:

Gail, everyone has there own personal preference when it comes to
software.
I've tried free versions of AVG (which incidentally 'is' staying free) and
Avast and find them equally as good. Some people will use nothing else but
Norton Anti Virus or Mcafee. Personally, i wouldn't touch either Norton or
Mcafee, but that is my personal opinion.
My brother recently had a new laptop, it came pre-installed with Norton
Internet Security. As soon as we finished registering and activating the
laptop i immediately stripped Norton internet security off the laptop and
installed AVG and Zone Alarm.

Hi John,

I know everyone has their personal preference. I liked AVG a lot. I
was just very startled when Avast found those 4 Trojans that AVG
hadn't detected. But I was happy with AVG for many years.

Gail