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My favorite mouse is acting up.
Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000 Thanks ! |
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In message , MouseUser
writes: My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! [] My first thought was faulty microswitches. But it seems unlikely they've both failed at once - or is that not the case, did one fail (or become unreliable) before the other? If both at once, then it might not be the switches. I'd suspect the chip in that case, which is probably unidentifiable (and unobtainable if it is) - though it'd be worth looking for broken tracks on the PCB. Does it "feel" wrong - do the "buttons" make a proper click? Replacing the microswitches shouldn't be that difficult for anyone capable of reasonably fine soldering, if that _is_ the cause. What is likely to be more difficult is (a) getting the mouse apart enough to get at them, then (b) finding ones similar enough to substitute. If it's a three-button mouse, the middle one (assuming it's not mechanically different!) might be a source for one, as it tends to be used less. Other scrap mice might be another source. Failing those, you should be able to find a fair selection of microswitches in most of the electronic component retailer's online "catalogues" - RS Components, Farnell, Newark, CSC, Digiguide (these may or may not be still in business - I've been out of electronics for a couple of years) - once you've got one in your hand to look at (and measure). The better distributors will have mechanical drawings near their listings; if not, they should at least tell you the manufacturer's name and part number of the ones they sell, and you should find such drawings at the manufacturers' websites. You'll also need to know if they're press-to-make or press-to-break; I'd assume the former, but check with a continuity beeper once you've unsoldered. (Unless you can make out the part number on them.) It _may_ be possible to dismantle and repair the switches themselves, but I'd not like to try. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf "Bother," said the Borg, "we assimilated a Pooh." |
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On 2019-10-12 8:19 p.m., J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , MouseUser writes: My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! [] My first thought was faulty microswitches. But it seems unlikely they've both failed at once - or is that not the case, did one fail (or become unreliable) before the other? If both at once, then it might not be the switches. I'd suspect the chip in that case, which is probably unidentifiable (and unobtainable if it is) - though it'd be worth looking for broken tracks on the PCB. Does it "feel" wrong - do the "buttons" make a proper click? Replacing the microswitches shouldn't be that difficult for anyone capable of reasonably fine soldering, if that _is_ the cause. What is likely to be more difficult is (a) getting the mouse apart enough to get at them, then (b) finding ones similar enough to substitute. If it's a three-button mouse, the middle one (assuming it's not mechanically different!) might be a source for one, as it tends to be used less. Other scrap mice might be another source. Failing those, you should be able to find a fair selection of microswitches in most of the electronic component retailer's online "catalogues" - RS Components, Farnell, Newark, CSC, Digiguide (these may or may not be still in business - I've been out of electronics for a couple of years) - once you've got one in your hand to look at (and measure). The better distributors will have mechanical drawings near their listings; if not, they should at least tell you the manufacturer's name and part number of the ones they sell, and you should find such drawings at the manufacturers' websites. You'll also need to know if they're press-to-make or press-to-break; I'd assume the former, but check with a continuity beeper once you've unsoldered. (Unless you can make out the part number on them.) It _may_ be possible to dismantle and repair the switches themselves, but I'd not like to try. Not sure where you live, but I find it on Amazon.com for about $11.00. Much easier then trying to repair one. Also there are literally hundreds of different ones to choose from, Surely you can find a suitable lookalike replacement. Rene Rene |
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On 10/12/2019 8:19 PM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
In message , MouseUser writes: My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! [] My first thought was faulty microswitches. But it seems unlikely they've both failed at once - or is that not the case, did one fail (or become unreliable) before the other? If both at once, then it might not be the switches. I'd suspect the chip in that case, which is probably unidentifiable (and unobtainable if it is) - though it'd be worth looking for broken tracks on the PCB. Does it "feel" wrong - do the "buttons" make a proper click? Replacing the microswitches shouldn't be that difficult for anyone capable of reasonably fine soldering, if that _is_ the cause. What is likely to be more difficult is (a) getting the mouse apart enough to get at them, then (b) finding ones similar enough to substitute. If it's a three-button mouse, the middle one (assuming it's not mechanically different!) might be a source for one, as it tends to be used less. Other scrap mice might be another source. Failing those, you should be able to find a fair selection of microswitches in most of the electronic component retailer's online "catalogues" - RS Components, Farnell, Newark, CSC, Digiguide (these may or may not be still in business - I've been out of electronics for a couple of years) - once you've got one in your hand to look at (and measure). The better distributors will have mechanical drawings near their listings; if not, they should at least tell you the manufacturer's name and part number of the ones they sell, and you should find such drawings at the manufacturers' websites. You'll also need to know if they're press-to-make or press-to-break; I'd assume the former, but check with a continuity beeper once you've unsoldered. (Unless you can make out the part number on them.) It _may_ be possible to dismantle and repair the switches themselves, but I'd not like to try. If this were my mouse I would try booting one of those live linux distributions like Puppy Linux and verify that that the mouse malfunctions with that as well. My reason is that I've seen Windows of almost all versions change to the wrong drivers during updates from time to time. If the mouse works properly with the Live Linux boot then it's time to replace the mouse drivers in your Windows OS and leave the actual mouse alone. |
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On 2019-10-12 8:48 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-10-12 8:19 p.m., J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , MouseUser writes: My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! [] My first thought was faulty microswitches. But it seems unlikely they've both failed at once - or is that not the case, did one fail (or become unreliable) before the other? If both at once, then it might not be the switches. I'd suspect the chip in that case, which is probably unidentifiable (and unobtainable if it is) - though it'd be worth looking for broken tracks on the PCB. Does it "feel" wrong - do the "buttons" make a proper click? Replacing the microswitches shouldn't be that difficult for anyone capable of reasonably fine soldering, if that _is_ the cause. What is likely to be more difficult is (a) getting the mouse apart enough to get at them, then (b) finding ones similar enough to substitute. If it's a three-button mouse, the middle one (assuming it's not mechanically different!) might be a source for one, as it tends to be used less. Other scrap mice might be another source. Failing those, you should be able to find a fair selection of microswitches in most of the electronic component retailer's online "catalogues" - RS Components, Farnell, Newark, CSC, Digiguide (these may or may not be still in business - I've been out of electronics for a couple of years) - once you've got one in your hand to look at (and measure). The better distributors will have mechanical drawings near their listings; if not, they should at least tell you the manufacturer's name and part number of the ones they sell, and you should find such drawings at the manufacturers' websites. You'll also need to know if they're press-to-make or press-to-break; I'd assume the former, but check with a continuity beeper once you've unsoldered. (Unless you can make out the part number on them.) It _may_ be possible to dismantle and repair the switches themselves, but I'd not like to try. Not sure where you live, but I find it on Amazon.com for about $11.00. Much easier then trying to repair one. Also there are literally hundreds of different ones to choose from, Surely you can find a suitable lookalike replacement. Rene Rene I should mention also that battery life is really not an issue anymore, I have a Logitech M510 that goes a year on batteries, My new Logitech M705 is advertized to go 3 years on a pair of alkaline AA cells. Rene |
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On 10/12/2019 5:57 PM, MouseUser wrote:
My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000 Thanks ! The Logitech M100 mouse is still available for $9.99 plus tax and shipping. It is a corded mouse with a USB connector. I found this to be quite durable. I bought mine 5 years ago and it still works well. My wife has a similar Logitech mouse that is even older. See https://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/mouse-m100?crid=7. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Immigration authorities arrested 680 undocumented aliens in meat processing facilities in Mississippi. Employing someone who is not legally in the U.S. is also illegal. How many of the EMPLOYERS are being criminally charged? If none, why not? |
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MouseUser wrote:
My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000 Thanks ! It's easy to refurbish mice. I refurb all my mice when they go bad because I like the ones I have. Take it completely apart, clean the optics, remove the micro switches, and solder in new ones. The tails break conductors near where they go into the mouse so cut off the tail about 1" near the entry point on the mouse and re-solder to the internal plug. Use heat shrink on the solder joints. If the plastic tabs that push the micro switches are worn down then use your soldering iron to add more of the same type of plastic. It will be an ABS mix. Should take no more than 20 minutes. |
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On 10/12/19 9:59 PM, Rene Lamontagne wrote:
On 2019-10-12 8:48 p.m., Rene Lamontagne wrote: On 2019-10-12 8:19 p.m., J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: In message , MouseUser writes: My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! [] My first thought was faulty microswitches. But it seems unlikely they've both failed at once - or is that not the case, did one fail (or become unreliable) before the other? If both at once, then it might not be the switches. I'd suspect the chip in that case, which is probably unidentifiable (and unobtainable if it is) - though it'd be worth looking for broken tracks on the PCB. Does it "feel" wrong - do the "buttons" make a proper click? Replacing the microswitches shouldn't be that difficult for anyone capable of reasonably fine soldering, if that _is_ the cause. What is likely to be more difficult is (a) getting the mouse apart enough to get at them, then (b) finding ones similar enough to substitute. If it's a three-button mouse, the middle one (assuming it's not mechanically different!) might be a source for one, as it tends to be used less. Other scrap mice might be another source. Failing those, you should be able to find a fair selection of microswitches in most of the electronic component retailer's online "catalogues" - RS Components, Farnell, Newark, CSC, Digiguide (these may or may not be still in business - I've been out of electronics for a couple of years) - once you've got one in your hand to look at (and measure). The better distributors will have mechanical drawings near their listings; if not, they should at least tell you the manufacturer's name and part number of the ones they sell, and you should find such drawings at the manufacturers' websites. You'll also need to know if they're press-to-make or press-to-break; I'd assume the former, but check with a continuity beeper once you've unsoldered. (Unless you can make out the part number on them.) It _may_ be possible to dismantle and repair the switches themselves, but I'd not like to try. Not sure where you live, but I find it on Amazon.com for about $11.00. Much easier then trying to repair one. Also there are literally hundreds of different ones to choose from, Surely you can find a suitable lookalike replacement. Rene Rene I should mention also that battery life is really not an issue anymore, I have a Logitech M510 that goes a year on batteries, My new Logitech M705 is advertized to go 3 years on a pair of alkaline AA cells. Rene I have a logitech M330 and like it so much, had it for quite a while. It also like Rene's says 2 years on battery, but I don't get more than a few months on it. Still mine is a single battery and that consumes less batteries. My wife's Kindle doesn't last the time Amazon says it will, but then she reads 6 hours a day not the little time they say is typical. I'd say mice batteries are the same, it depends how much you use it. Mine goes to sleep when not used to save battery but if it's used 12 hours a day, that's a lot of drain. Al |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 20:59:49 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote: I should mention also that battery life is really not an issue anymore, I have a Logitech M510 that goes a year on batteries, My new Logitech M705 is advertized to go 3 years on a pair of alkaline AA cells. +1 I've been using M705's with multiple PCs since 2013 and love them. I get more than two years on a set of AAs, but who knows how fresh the cells were to begin with. One thing about the M705 is that it can run on a single battery if you're willing to trade longer battery life for less weight. I don't mind the weight, so I use two cells. Also, there's an LED on top of the mouse that normally lights up green, but changes to red when the batteries are weak. Lastly, I love the mechanical switch that disables the wheel detent, making it easy to scroll up/down at high speed. -- Char Jackson |
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On Sun, 13 Oct 2019 02:19:33 +0100, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
It _may_ be possible to dismantle and repair the switches themselves, but I'd not like to try. Usenet is a community potluck where everyone chips in where they can. I didn't read all the details in the thread, where my value add is that o I can simply vouch for fixing mice by taking them apart (carefully). My suggestion to the OP is to take the mouse apart, like I did he https://i.postimg.cc/v83WFn2v/mouse01.jpg And then clean everything up and look for something broken: https://i.postimg.cc/5tr2SxsL/mouse02.jpg If nothing else, it's useful to see how the thing works inside. |
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On 13/10/2019 01:57, MouseUser wrote:
My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000 Thanks ! Two of the screws holding it together are hidden under the 'feet' as shown here; http://cordes.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-299.html |
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On 13/10/2019 08:55, Patrick wrote:
On 13/10/2019 01:57, MouseUser wrote: My favorite mouse is acting up. Buttons double-click on a single-click and sometimes do not click at all. I tried repeatedly tapping to try to clean but does not last. Unfortunately this mouse is no longer available anywhere (at least at a reasonable price). Love it because of its size and it is USB (no batteries !). Is it possible to do my own refurbishment ? Suggestions ? Links please ! Microsoft Notebook Optical Mouse 3000 Thanks ! Two of the screws holding it together are hidden under the 'feet' as shown here; http://cordes.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-299.html And another screw is hidden under the label !! |
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"Char Jackson" wrote in message news On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 20:59:49 -0500, Rene Lamontagne wrote: I should mention also that battery life is really not an issue anymore, I have a Logitech M510 that goes a year on batteries, My new Logitech M705 is advertized to go 3 years on a pair of alkaline AA cells. +1 I've been using M705's with multiple PCs since 2013 and love them. I get more than two years on a set of AAs, but who knows how fresh the cells were to begin with. One thing about the M705 is that it can run on a single battery if you're willing to trade longer battery life for less weight. I don't mind the weight, so I use two cells. Also, there's an LED on top of the mouse that normally lights up green, but changes to red when the batteries are weak. Lastly, I love the mechanical switch that disables the wheel detent, making it easy to scroll up/down at high speed. I'm on my 2nd M705- the first one (after 3-1/2 years) was having the same mechanical problems as the OP's mouse. My newer one is 2+ years old and so far is everything it's advertised to be. I use rechargeable batteries in it, and they last about 14-16 months. Since I have a number of these batteries around (I also use them in my various remotes), I always have at least 2 that are charged up and ready to go. I would definitely recommend the M705 to my friends :-) -- SC Tom |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 20:59:49 -0500, Rene Lamontagne
wrote: I should mention also that battery life is really not an issue anymore, I have a Logitech M510 that goes a year on batteries, My new Logitech M705 is advertized to go 3 years on a pair of alkaline AA cells. The mouse I use and like very much is the Anker 2.4G Wireless Vertical Ergonomic Optical Mouse ($19.99 from Amazon). It's my first wireless mouse. I've had it for about four months, and I just had to replace its batteries. It's very different from the common horizontal mice; it's much more comfortable. |
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On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 21:03:20 -0500, Paul in Houston TX
wrote: It's easy to refurbish mice. I refurb all my mice when they go bad because I like the ones I have. Take it completely apart, clean the optics, remove the micro switches, and solder in new ones. The tails break conductors near where they go into the mouse so cut off the tail about 1" near the entry point on the mouse and re-solder to the internal plug. Use heat shrink on the solder joints. If the plastic tabs that push the micro switches are worn down then use your soldering iron to add more of the same type of plastic. It will be an ABS mix. Should take no more than 20 minutes. Each to his own. Mice are very cheap these days. I wouldn't dream of spending 20 minutes, the cost of new microswitches, soldering iron, and solder to save $20 or so for a new mouse. |
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