Resize partitions

On 3/13/2011 10:41 PM, Flint wrote:
On 3/13/2011 11:58 PM, C.Joseph Drayton wrote:

You can not resize the partitions without a third party tool. I have
used Partition Wizard under Windows7 32b with no problems. You can
find it here;

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html

Actually you can indeed resize partitions with Windows own Disk
Management tool. I've done it many times. You just can't always resize
them downward as small as you like without a 3rd party tool.

Just recently had a brand new HP laptop I wanted to partition the 500GB
drive's "C:" drive into a 60GB "C:" and the balance of drive space for a
"D:" partition so I could move the user folders there. I was able to
resize the C: drive down to 183GB partition, but no further without
using Partition Wizard outside of Windows. Ultimately, I did get the C:
drive down to 60GB however, but Windows own Disk Management's 'Shrink'
volume partition did initially shrink the c: drive down to 183GB.


I hate to flog a dead horse, but almost only counts in horse-shoes. For
a lot of people, especially those non-technical types who want their
computer to be nothing more than a tool, they don't want to have to try
a couple of different things (time is money and unlike money time can
not be recovered/replaced once it is loss).

I am glad you have had some luck with the MS tool to be honest, I
haven't had any luck with it so I don't use it and if someone tells me
that they need to do a re-partition, I point them to a tool that I know
works.

Sincerely,
C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
E-mail:

On 3/14/2011 1:07 AM, Paul wrote:
Flint wrote:
On 3/13/2011 11:58 PM, C.Joseph Drayton wrote:

You can not resize the partitions without a third party tool. I have
used Partition Wizard under Windows7 32b with no problems. You can
find it here;

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html

Actually you can indeed resize partitions with Windows own Disk
Management tool. I've done it many times. You just can't always
resize them downward as small as you like without a 3rd party tool.

Just recently had a brand new HP laptop I wanted to partition the
500GB drive's "C:" drive into a 60GB "C:" and the balance of drive
space for a "D:" partition so I could move the user folders there. I
was able to resize the C: drive down to 183GB partition, but no
further without using Partition Wizard outside of Windows.
Ultimately, I did get the C: drive down to 60GB however, but Windows
own Disk Management's 'Shrink' volume partition did initially shrink
the c: drive down to 183GB.


Using the method I came up with, I didn't need to leave Windows
to shrink C:.

The combination of the Disk Management "shrink" function, plus
defragmentation with Raxco PerfectDisk (downloaded evaluation
copy), got me from 320GB down to 30GB. It took multiple passes,
because PerfectDisk wouldn't push everything to the left in one
try. But multiple cycles of defrag/shrink/defrag/shrink eventually
got the job done, and all without leaving Windows.

If it works fine, I just don't feel like taking multiple defrag
'wacks' just to partition a drive. It's kind of the tail wagging the
dog.

I've heard of Raxco PerfectDisk, although I haven't used it because I
couldn't see what it offered over the venerable Diskeeper between the
pay version defraggers. For my clients, I generally use Auslogics
defragger (its free), but by the time I install and config that, I've
already done the partition shrinks I need to do. Between, my
Partition Wizard Boot media CD, or my Hiren's BootCD, I usually like
to do the partitioning first, separate the user's folders/files from
Windows OS files by locating each on their own partitions, and in
addition, if I can, create a dedicated partition ofr use by EaseUS
ToDo Backup as a custom recovery partition where I create and store a
backup image of the entire environment (if the customer doesn't want
to spend the money for another HD for backup purposes).



--
MFB

On 3/14/2011 1:16 AM, C.Joseph Drayton wrote:
On 3/13/2011 10:41 PM, Flint wrote:
On 3/13/2011 11:58 PM, C.Joseph Drayton wrote:

You can not resize the partitions without a third party tool. I have
used Partition Wizard under Windows7 32b with no problems. You can
find it here;

http://www.partitionwizard.com/free-...n-manager.html

Actually you can indeed resize partitions with Windows own Disk
Management tool. I've done it many times. You just can't always resize
them downward as small as you like without a 3rd party tool.

Just recently had a brand new HP laptop I wanted to partition the 500GB
drive's "C:" drive into a 60GB "C:" and the balance of drive space
for a
"D:" partition so I could move the user folders there. I was able to
resize the C: drive down to 183GB partition, but no further without
using Partition Wizard outside of Windows. Ultimately, I did get the C:
drive down to 60GB however, but Windows own Disk Management's 'Shrink'
volume partition did initially shrink the c: drive down to 183GB.


I hate to flog a dead horse, but almost only counts in horse-shoes.
For a lot of people, especially those non-technical types who want
their computer to be nothing more than a tool, they don't want to have
to try a couple of different things (time is money and unlike money
time can not be recovered/replaced once it is loss).

I am glad you have had some luck with the MS tool to be honest, I
haven't had any luck with it so I don't use it and if someone tells me
that they need to do a re-partition, I point them to a tool that I
know works.

Sincerely,
C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T

CSD Computer Services

Web site: http://csdcs.site90.net/
E-mail:


No problem. Generally I agree about using the right tool for the job.
I just don't like to recommend _any_ partitioning tools (even
Windows *own* shrink function) to _any_ non-tech types. To much to
get them into trouble with if they don't understand what they're
doing. Like you, I haven't had much luck with it either on resizing a
boot drive downward. I've almost always had to resort to a 3rd party
tool myself.



--
MFB

On Sun, 13 Mar 2011 21:58:18 -0600, C.Joseph Drayton wrote:
You can not resize the partitions without a third party tool.

I've seen that FALSE information posted twice in this thread alone.

This was one of the improvements in Vista, according to Bott's
/Windows 7 Inside Out/. I have no experience with Vista, but I can
attest that I have repartitioned my hard drive in Windows 7 with
nothing but the native tools. As I posted Saturday:

Click the Start button and type
create partition
to bring up the disk and partition manager.
--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com
Shikata ga nai...

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No you can't without using third party tools

Not true at all. You can certainly shrink the one partition to create space
to add a second partition within Windows 7. The only proviso is that the
built-in Windows Disk management tool will not shrink the partition beyond
the first immovable file it encounters. if that creates enough space to make
the second partition then fine. And if it doesn't, then yes a third-party
tool will be needed.

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Click the Start button and type
create partition
to bring up the disk and partition manager.

Only one major problem - the built-in Disk manager will NOT shrink any
partition beyond the first immovable file it encounters - in which case if
the space created is not enough, then a third-party app will be needed...

On 12/03/2011 18:07, richard wrote:
On Sat, 12 Mar 2011 07:19:34 -0600, Andrew Rossmann wrote:

Is it possible to resize partitions in Win7 without resorting to 3rd
party software, or having to reinstall everything?

Basically, most computers come with everything set up on one giant
partition. Do the stock Windows tools let you shrink that partition down
so you can create your own?

You certainly can.
Once you have the disk manager open, you will probably notice there is no
available space.
So you have to shrink the single partition to begin with

Only one major problem - the built-in Disk manager will NOT shrink any
partition beyond the first immovable file it encounters - in which case
if the space created is not enough, then a third-party app will be
needed...

On 3/12/2011 5:19 AM, Andrew Rossmann wrote:
Is it possible to resize partitions in Win7 without resorting to 3rd
party software, or having to reinstall everything?

Basically, most computers come with everything set up on one giant
partition. Do the stock Windows tools let you shrink that partition down
so you can create your own?

I use Hirens Boot CD. It has Partition Magic and Acronis Disk manager
on it. You can boot to the CD and run the porgram from within the linux
environment. It downloads and burns to a single CD.