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Photoshop in Win 7 64 bit
Hi all,
Re my new computer failing to boot this is a lower speck desktop with Windows 7 64 bit. Photoshop problem with new install in Zoostorm Computer with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. I first installed Photoshop 7 only from the installation disc, before I always installed it as recommended setting that install both Photoshop 7 and Image Ready as well. On opening Photoshop, there is strange behaviour! With a photo file open, if I select the Text button from the left hand tools selection, the text is on Courier (Ti) I cannot change it, nor can I type text as that then highlight it and then select another font? With text and some other tools instead of there being one tool on the pointer of the mouse there are three. I cannot close the photo file by clicking on the X in the red box, only by pressing Ctrl and W I did then uninstall Photoshop and install it as the default option but it is still the same! It is installed at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Photoshop 7.0\Photoshop.exe I have tried running it in compatible mode for XP with Service Pack 3, which makes no difference. Is there a general "reset" thing I can try? Could there be something else on the computer causing this? Mick. |
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Photoshop in Win 7 64 bit
Mick wrote:
Hi all, Re my new computer failing to boot this is a lower speck desktop with Windows 7 64 bit. Photoshop problem with new install in Zoostorm Computer with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. I first installed Photoshop 7 only from the installation disc, before I always installed it as recommended setting that install both Photoshop 7 and Image Ready as well. On opening Photoshop, there is strange behaviour! With a photo file open, if I select the Text button from the left hand tools selection, the text is on Courier (Ti) I cannot change it, nor can I type text as that then highlight it and then select another font? With text and some other tools instead of there being one tool on the pointer of the mouse there are three. I cannot close the photo file by clicking on the X in the red box, only by pressing Ctrl and W I did then uninstall Photoshop and install it as the default option but it is still the same! It is installed at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Photoshop 7.0\Photoshop.exe I have tried running it in compatible mode for XP with Service Pack 3, which makes no difference. Is there a general "reset" thing I can try? Could there be something else on the computer causing this? Mick. This recipe might not be for your version of Photoshop, but it illustrates the (complicated) process of cleaning every last speck of Photoshop from the system. http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405847.html The program files were undoubtedly removed by the uninstall from Programs and Files control panel. C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Elements 7.0 But the preferences for the application, are in other places. You'll need to search down these file trees, looking for similar folders. C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\7.0\ C:\Users\[User]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\7.0\ There are also Registry entries that can be removed. So it's a messy job. It's always messy to do it manually, but the reason some of this is necessary, is removing a program, does not remove the "preferences", so there's no real way to reset it, without getting your hands dirty. If you install and uninstall, over and over again, the bad preferences remain each time, so the new operation will work no better. To prove this, you could create another user on the machine, and try Photoshop from there. Perhaps if that works better, then you know the "bad stuff" is in a place like C:\Users\[User]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\7.0\ ******* Standard disclaimer. As long as you have full backups, nothing can go wrong... :-) If you botch the job, restore from your backup. I make mistakes all the time (made a big mistake two days ago :-) ) and thank God for backups. Paul |
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Photoshop in Win 7 64 bit
On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:25:54 -0400, Paul wrote:
Mick wrote: Hi all, Re my new computer failing to boot this is a lower speck desktop with Windows 7 64 bit. Photoshop problem with new install in Zoostorm Computer with Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. I first installed Photoshop 7 only from the installation disc, before I always installed it as recommended setting that install both Photoshop 7 and Image Ready as well. On opening Photoshop, there is strange behaviour! With a photo file open, if I select the Text button from the left hand tools selection, the text is on Courier (Ti) I cannot change it, nor can I type text as that then highlight it and then select another font? With text and some other tools instead of there being one tool on the pointer of the mouse there are three. I cannot close the photo file by clicking on the X in the red box, only by pressing Ctrl and W I did then uninstall Photoshop and install it as the default option but it is still the same! It is installed at: C:\Program Files (x86)\Adobe\Photoshop 7.0\Photoshop.exe I have tried running it in compatible mode for XP with Service Pack 3, which makes no difference. Is there a general "reset" thing I can try? Could there be something else on the computer causing this? Mick. This recipe might not be for your version of Photoshop, but it illustrates the (complicated) process of cleaning every last speck of Photoshop from the system. http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/405/kb405847.html The program files were undoubtedly removed by the uninstall from Programs and Files control panel. C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Photoshop Elements 7.0 But the preferences for the application, are in other places. You'll need to search down these file trees, looking for similar folders. C:\ProgramData\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\7.0\ C:\Users\[User]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\7.0\ There are also Registry entries that can be removed. So it's a messy job. It's always messy to do it manually, but the reason some of this is necessary, is removing a program, does not remove the "preferences", so there's no real way to reset it, without getting your hands dirty. If you install and uninstall, over and over again, the bad preferences remain each time, so the new operation will work no better. To prove this, you could create another user on the machine, and try Photoshop from there. Perhaps if that works better, then you know the "bad stuff" is in a place like C:\Users\[User]\AppData\Roaming\Adobe\Photoshop Elements\7.0\ ******* Standard disclaimer. As long as you have full backups, nothing can go wrong... :-) If you botch the job, restore from your backup. I make mistakes all the time (made a big mistake two days ago :-) ) and thank God for backups. Paul I agree, and I keep image backup of the system drive. However, a system resore will generally work well. Some application are kind enough to create a restore point before installation, but we can't rely on kindness of others in this world so it's a good idea to create one before every install. Most times I forget to follow my own advice, but this is no fault of the advice. |
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"Dave Cohen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:25:54 -0400, Paul wrote: I agree, and I keep image backup of the system drive. However, a system resore will generally work well. Some application are kind enough to create a restore point before installation, but we can't rely on kindness of others in this world so it's a good idea to create one before every install. Most times I forget to follow my own advice, but this is no fault of the advice. Hi, but Photoshop was the same when freshly installed on the new computer so there could be no old files around. I first thought it was because I did a custom install and installed Photoshop 7 only not Image Ready and uninstalled it and did a normal install of both. Could this be because the computer only has onboard graphics? A card is fairly cheap, I will try one and report back, Mick. |
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"Mick" wrote in message ... "Dave Cohen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:25:54 -0400, Paul wrote: I agree, and I keep image backup of the system drive. However, a system resore will generally work well. Some application are kind enough to create a restore point before installation, but we can't rely on kindness of others in this world so it's a good idea to create one before every install. Most times I forget to follow my own advice, but this is no fault of the advice. Hi, but Photoshop was the same when freshly installed on the new computer so there could be no old files around. I first thought it was because I did a custom install and installed Photoshop 7 only not Image Ready and uninstalled it and did a normal install of both. Could this be because the computer only has onboard graphics? A card is fairly cheap, I will try one and report back, Mick. Hi all, I fitted an Asus HD 6450 Graphic card and now Photoshop is performing as it did before in previous computers. Mick. |
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Mick wrote:
"Mick" wrote in message ... "Dave Cohen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:25:54 -0400, Paul wrote: I agree, and I keep image backup of the system drive. However, a system resore will generally work well. Some application are kind enough to create a restore point before installation, but we can't rely on kindness of others in this world so it's a good idea to create one before every install. Most times I forget to follow my own advice, but this is no fault of the advice. Hi, but Photoshop was the same when freshly installed on the new computer so there could be no old files around. I first thought it was because I did a custom install and installed Photoshop 7 only not Image Ready and uninstalled it and did a normal install of both. Could this be because the computer only has onboard graphics? A card is fairly cheap, I will try one and report back, Mick. Hi all, I fitted an Asus HD 6450 Graphic card and now Photoshop is performing as it did before in previous computers. Mick. I'm surprised Photoshop 7 has any hardware dependency. I could understand, say, a more recent version, being able to use the GPU for some kind of computation, but older versions should use the CPU for computation, and the video card just as a frame buffer. According to this, Photoshop CS4 has OpenGL acceleration, and that could use the video card. But perhaps they aren't emphasizing hardware features here, so it's hard to say whether any previous version would have used the video card GPU. Photoshop has a history of multiple threads of execution, and was ahead of its time in that respect. Using the GPU, isn't quite as handy (programming support GPGPU/CUDA/OpenCL is a relatively recent innovation). And with OpenGL, you'd only want to use that, for things actually supported by the video card (as in some cases, the CPU emulates missing portions of OpenGL). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_P...ersion_history For some of Adobe's other products, they use CUDA code for acceleration only (so owners of Nvidia cards benefit). Generally, support for OpenCL seems to come second. And the HD 6450 would be an OpenCL candidate. It's hard to imagine how your HD 6450 fits into this Photoshop 7 puzzle. Paul |
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Photoshop in Win 7 64 bit
On 14/08/2012 13:17, Paul wrote:
Mick wrote: "Mick" wrote in message ... "Dave Cohen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Aug 2012 12:25:54 -0400, Paul wrote: I agree, and I keep image backup of the system drive. However, a system resore will generally work well. Some application are kind enough to create a restore point before installation, but we can't rely on kindness of others in this world so it's a good idea to create one before every install. Most times I forget to follow my own advice, but this is no fault of the advice. Hi, but Photoshop was the same when freshly installed on the new computer so there could be no old files around. I first thought it was because I did a custom install and installed Photoshop 7 only not Image Ready and uninstalled it and did a normal install of both. Could this be because the computer only has onboard graphics? A card is fairly cheap, I will try one and report back, Mick. Hi all, I fitted an Asus HD 6450 Graphic card and now Photoshop is performing as it did before in previous computers. Mick. I'm surprised Photoshop 7 has any hardware dependency. I could understand, say, a more recent version, being able to use the GPU for some kind of computation, but older versions should use the CPU for computation, and the video card just as a frame buffer. According to this, Photoshop CS4 has OpenGL acceleration, and that could use the video card. But perhaps they aren't emphasizing hardware features here, so it's hard to say whether any previous version would have used the video card GPU. Photoshop has a history of multiple threads of execution, and was ahead of its time in that respect. Using the GPU, isn't quite as handy (programming support GPGPU/CUDA/OpenCL is a relatively recent innovation). And with OpenGL, you'd only want to use that, for things actually supported by the video card (as in some cases, the CPU emulates missing portions of OpenGL). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_P...ersion_history For some of Adobe's other products, they use CUDA code for acceleration only (so owners of Nvidia cards benefit). Generally, support for OpenCL seems to come second. And the HD 6450 would be an OpenCL candidate. It's hard to imagine how your HD 6450 fits into this Photoshop 7 puzzle. Paul I suspect it was due to some problem with the driver for his onboard graphics and (maybe) hardware-accelerated mode. I've seen stranger things happen which were eventually tracked down to faulty video card drivers. -- Rob |
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Photoshop in Win 7 64 bit
"Rob" wrote in message ... I suspect it was due to some problem with the driver for his onboard graphics and (maybe) hardware-accelerated mode. I've seen stranger things happen which were eventually tracked down to faulty video card drivers. -- Rob Hi, I am a bit lost with How and Why, but If it cost me the price of the graphic card to get the driver sorted out then overall it was worth it. The display is much better too. Mick. |
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