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Old August 15th 12, 11:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Robin Bignall
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Default Spontaneous restore?

While routinely checking things tonight I noticed that my last Win7
backup failed, probably because I logged off while it was underway. So
I started a backup and got on with other things.
(I might add that I do not use system restore or Win7 backup; I have a
backup program that makes an incremental every hour and a full at
weekends, so I can restore to any hour during the current week. I just
have the Win7 bits activated as a belt in addition to braces
(suspenders)!)
Checking that the backup had finished, I found a yellow-edged warning
message telling me that the system had been restored to an earlier time
and that I should check my backup parameters.

What on earth does this mean? I have not asked to restore anything, and
the message is not clear about whether it's talking about system restore
(earlier time) or Win7 files and system image restore.
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Robin Bignall
Herts, England
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  #2  
Old August 16th 12, 12:19 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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Default Spontaneous restore?

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:02:49 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

While routinely checking things tonight I noticed that my last Win7
backup failed, probably because I logged off while it was underway. So
I started a backup and got on with other things.
(I might add that I do not use system restore or Win7 backup; I have a
backup program that makes an incremental every hour and a full at
weekends, so I can restore to any hour during the current week. I just
have the Win7 bits activated as a belt in addition to braces
(suspenders)!)
Checking that the backup had finished, I found a yellow-edged warning
message telling me that the system had been restored to an earlier time
and that I should check my backup parameters.

What on earth does this mean? I have not asked to restore anything, and
the message is not clear about whether it's talking about system restore
(earlier time) or Win7 files and system image restore.


Insufficient data provided. Is the "yellow-edged warning" from your "I
have a backup program"?

C'mon, you can do better. Toss us a bone. :-)

--

Char Jackson
  #3  
Old August 16th 12, 01:27 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Robin Bignall
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Default Spontaneous restore?

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:19:27 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:02:49 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

While routinely checking things tonight I noticed that my last Win7
backup failed, probably because I logged off while it was underway. So
I started a backup and got on with other things.
(I might add that I do not use system restore or Win7 backup; I have a
backup program that makes an incremental every hour and a full at
weekends, so I can restore to any hour during the current week. I just
have the Win7 bits activated as a belt in addition to braces
(suspenders)!)
Checking that the backup had finished, I found a yellow-edged warning
message telling me that the system had been restored to an earlier time
and that I should check my backup parameters.

What on earth does this mean? I have not asked to restore anything, and
the message is not clear about whether it's talking about system restore
(earlier time) or Win7 files and system image restore.


Insufficient data provided. Is the "yellow-edged warning" from your "I
have a backup program"?

It's from Win7 backup, top of screen above the normal 'Backup or Restore
Your Files' header. An inch tall yellow bar down left hand side: message
saying that the system has been restored to an earlier time and to check
Backup/Restore settings. I reran the Win7 backup and it didn't recur.

C'mon, you can do better. Toss us a bone. :-)


Sorry, my dog is chewing it.
But I'm being serious; I don't like Windows telling me that something
has been restored to a previous time when I've not asked for it.
(To restore a system disk my own backup program has to be run from its
boot disk. It sends error messages via email. No chance of confusion.)
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England
  #4  
Old August 16th 12, 04:02 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dave Cohen[_2_]
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Default Spontaneous restore?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:27:32 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:19:27 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:02:49 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

While routinely checking things tonight I noticed that my last Win7
backup failed, probably because I logged off while it was underway. So
I started a backup and got on with other things. (I might add that I do
not use system restore or Win7 backup; I have a backup program that
makes an incremental every hour and a full at weekends, so I can
restore to any hour during the current week. I just have the Win7 bits
activated as a belt in addition to braces (suspenders)!)
Checking that the backup had finished, I found a yellow-edged warning
message telling me that the system had been restored to an earlier time
and that I should check my backup parameters.

What on earth does this mean? I have not asked to restore anything,
and the message is not clear about whether it's talking about system
restore (earlier time) or Win7 files and system image restore.


Insufficient data provided. Is the "yellow-edged warning" from your "I
have a backup program"?

It's from Win7 backup, top of screen above the normal 'Backup or Restore
Your Files' header. An inch tall yellow bar down left hand side: message
saying that the system has been restored to an earlier time and to check
Backup/Restore settings. I reran the Win7 backup and it didn't recur.

C'mon, you can do better. Toss us a bone. :-)


Sorry, my dog is chewing it.
But I'm being serious; I don't like Windows telling me that something
has been restored to a previous time when I've not asked for it. (To
restore a system disk my own backup program has to be run from its boot
disk. It sends error messages via email. No chance of confusion.)


Well that is the same if restoring using the win7 backup, they let you
create a restore CD (never looked into restore USB but there are ways to
create one from the CD). As far as I know, no image backup software lets
you restore to a running system but most let you create the image while
system is running.
If you look into system restore dialog (Control Panel/System and Security/
System/System protection), it will show you if a system restore was made
(shows undo checkbox on right).
The backup program in win7 is quite good. For machines like Dell it also
includes image of those pesky extra partitions the vendors use these days.
Lastly, I can think of no reason why windows should do a restore on its
own, if booting is a problem they should ask you what to do.
  #5  
Old August 16th 12, 05:30 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Robin Bignall
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Default Spontaneous restore?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:02:04 +0000 (UTC), Dave Cohen
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:27:32 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:19:27 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:02:49 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

While routinely checking things tonight I noticed that my last Win7
backup failed, probably because I logged off while it was underway. So
I started a backup and got on with other things. (I might add that I do
not use system restore or Win7 backup; I have a backup program that
makes an incremental every hour and a full at weekends, so I can
restore to any hour during the current week. I just have the Win7 bits
activated as a belt in addition to braces (suspenders)!)
Checking that the backup had finished, I found a yellow-edged warning
message telling me that the system had been restored to an earlier time
and that I should check my backup parameters.

What on earth does this mean? I have not asked to restore anything,
and the message is not clear about whether it's talking about system
restore (earlier time) or Win7 files and system image restore.

Insufficient data provided. Is the "yellow-edged warning" from your "I
have a backup program"?

It's from Win7 backup, top of screen above the normal 'Backup or Restore
Your Files' header. An inch tall yellow bar down left hand side: message
saying that the system has been restored to an earlier time and to check
Backup/Restore settings. I reran the Win7 backup and it didn't recur.

C'mon, you can do better. Toss us a bone. :-)


Sorry, my dog is chewing it.
But I'm being serious; I don't like Windows telling me that something
has been restored to a previous time when I've not asked for it. (To
restore a system disk my own backup program has to be run from its boot
disk. It sends error messages via email. No chance of confusion.)


Well that is the same if restoring using the win7 backup, they let you
create a restore CD (never looked into restore USB but there are ways to
create one from the CD). As far as I know, no image backup software lets
you restore to a running system but most let you create the image while
system is running.


I'm sure there isn't!

If you look into system restore dialog (Control Panel/System and Security/
System/System protection), it will show you if a system restore was made
(shows undo checkbox on right).


There are no restores showing, which makes the message "Your system has
been restored to an earlier time" even more puzzling.

The backup program in win7 is quite good. For machines like Dell it also
includes image of those pesky extra partitions the vendors use these days.
Lastly, I can think of no reason why windows should do a restore on its
own, if booting is a problem they should ask you what to do.


Neither can I. As far as I can tell, nothing has changed. I'm tempted
to interrupt the next scheduled Win7 backup next Sunday and see if I can
recreate the message. If so, I'll post a screenshot.
--
Robin Bignall
Herts, England
  #6  
Old August 17th 12, 09:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Dave Cohen[_2_]
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Default Spontaneous restore?

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 17:30:00 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 15:02:04 +0000 (UTC), Dave Cohen
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 01:27:32 +0100, Robin Bignall wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:19:27 -0500, Char Jackson
wrote:

On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 23:02:49 +0100, Robin Bignall
wrote:

While routinely checking things tonight I noticed that my last Win7
backup failed, probably because I logged off while it was underway.
So I started a backup and got on with other things. (I might add that
I do not use system restore or Win7 backup; I have a backup program
that makes an incremental every hour and a full at weekends, so I can
restore to any hour during the current week. I just have the Win7
bits activated as a belt in addition to braces (suspenders)!)
Checking that the backup had finished, I found a yellow-edged warning
message telling me that the system had been restored to an earlier
time and that I should check my backup parameters.

What on earth does this mean? I have not asked to restore anything,
and the message is not clear about whether it's talking about system
restore (earlier time) or Win7 files and system image restore.

Insufficient data provided. Is the "yellow-edged warning" from your "I
have a backup program"?

It's from Win7 backup, top of screen above the normal 'Backup or
Restore Your Files' header. An inch tall yellow bar down left hand
side: message saying that the system has been restored to an earlier
time and to check Backup/Restore settings. I reran the Win7 backup and
it didn't recur.

C'mon, you can do better. Toss us a bone. :-)

Sorry, my dog is chewing it.
But I'm being serious; I don't like Windows telling me that something
has been restored to a previous time when I've not asked for it. (To
restore a system disk my own backup program has to be run from its
boot disk. It sends error messages via email. No chance of
confusion.)


Well that is the same if restoring using the win7 backup, they let you
create a restore CD (never looked into restore USB but there are ways to
create one from the CD). As far as I know, no image backup software lets
you restore to a running system but most let you create the image while
system is running.


I'm sure there isn't!

If you look into system restore dialog (Control Panel/System and
Security/ System/System protection), it will show you if a system
restore was made (shows undo checkbox on right).


There are no restores showing, which makes the message "Your system has
been restored to an earlier time" even more puzzling.

The backup program in win7 is quite good. For machines like Dell it also
includes image of those pesky extra partitions the vendors use these
days. Lastly, I can think of no reason why windows should do a restore
on its own, if booting is a problem they should ask you what to do.


Neither can I. As far as I can tell, nothing has changed. I'm tempted
to interrupt the next scheduled Win7 backup next Sunday and see if I can
recreate the message. If so, I'll post a screenshot.


I suppose it's possible that the backup sets some flag that also detects a
system restore and what you are seeing is a harmless bug.
 




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