Thunderbird -OT

On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 14:15:27 -0600, VanguardLH wrote:

Char Jackson wrote:

VanguardLH wrote:

individual.net, eternal-september, albasani, and non-Mozilla NNTP
servers don't carry the mozilla.* newsgroups.

Newshosting and AstraWeb, as two examples, carry at least 92 mozilla
newsgroups. As stated above, however, and based on what you're saying, I
assume they are not peered with the official mozilla groups. Is that right?

Last I checked, news.mozilla.org was a private NNTP server with peering
only to Google Groups (and Google didn't peer out from there).

snipped detailed suggestions on how to verify that moz newsgroups are or are not peered to usenet

Thanks for that. I'll include the headers for two random posts from Newshosting's "mozilla.support.thunderbird" newsgroup. To me, they look like they came from the mozilla server. Let me know what you think.

If Giganews was peering out Mozilla's articles to other NNTP servers,
like Newshosting/Highwinds and Astraweb, then why don't those same
articles end up getting peered to individual.net and Eternal-September?

I guess you'd have to ask those NSPs. As I understand it, each NSP can decide for itself which groups they will peer.

So here are headers from two random posts taken from mozilla.support.thunderbird on Newshosting.

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Post #1



X-Received: by 2002:a1c:1aca:: with SMTP id a193mr12956336wma.120.1569730932208;
Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:22:12 -0700 (PDT)
Path: not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 23:22:07 -0500
Return-Path:
Delivered-To:
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X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.998 tagged_above=-999 required=5
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autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
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' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism
'include:smtp.phmgmt.com' matched)) receiver=mailman2.mail.mdc2.mozilla.com;
identity=mailfrom; ";
helo=mailstar.serv1.aus.datafoundry.com; client-ip=209.99.125.38
X-Mozilla-News-Host: news://news.mozilla.org:119
From: BillH
Subject: Folder Account add-on for TB 68.x
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 21:22:00 -0700
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/68.1.1
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-DF-Seen-By: ms
X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser
X-DMCA-Complaints-To:
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint
properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
To:
X-BeenThe
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26
Precedence: list
List-Id: Thunderbird help community support-thunderbird.lists.mozilla.org
List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-thunderbird,
?subject=unsubscribe
List-Post:
List-Help: ?subject=help
List-Subscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird,
?subject=subscribe
Approved:
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.thunderbird
Message-ID:
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References:
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X-Received: by 2002:adf:e5c4:: with SMTP id a4mr30388005wrn.334.1572974766321;
Tue, 05 Nov 2019 09:26:06 -0800 (PST)
Path: not-for-mail
NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 05 Nov 2019 11:26:00 -0600
Return-Path:
Delivered-To:
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mozilla.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Sco 2.997
X-Spam-Level: **
X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5
tests=[BAYES_00=-0.05, FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA=2.399,
HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS=0.399]
autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
Received-SPF: pass (giganews.com: Sender is authorized to use
' in 'mfrom' identity (mechanism
'include:smtp.phmgmt.com' matched)) receiver=mailman2.mail.mdc2.mozilla.com;
identity=mailfrom; ";
helo=mailstar.serv1.aus.datafoundry.com; client-ip=209.99.125.34
Subject: Provider for Google Calendar using OAUTH
From: Wayne
Date: Tue, 5 Nov 2019 12:25:59 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:71.0) Gecko/20100101
Thunderbird/71.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To:
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X-Antivirus-Status: Clean
X-DF-Seen-By: ms
X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser
X-DMCA-Complaints-To:
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers
X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint
properly
X-Postfilter: 1.3.40
To:
X-BeenThe
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26
Precedence: list
List-Id: Thunderbird help community support-thunderbird.lists.mozilla.org
List-Unsubscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/options/support-thunderbird,
?subject=unsubscribe
List-Post:
List-Help: ?subject=help
List-Subscribe: https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-thunderbird,
?subject=subscribe
Approved:
Newsgroups: mozilla.support.thunderbird
Message-ID:
X-Mailman-Original-Message-ID:
X-Mailman-Original-References:



References:




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