comp.mobile.windows

Hello!

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows for
discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile.
Will anyone use this newsgroup??? Except me, I will certainly read it
and post sometimes even though I am an Android user and
comp.mobile.android's creator.


Evgenii

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Evgenii Sputnik wrote:
Hello!

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows for
discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile.
Will anyone use this newsgroup??? Except me, I will certainly read it
and post sometimes even though I am an Android user and
comp.mobile.android's creator.


Evgenii


I bought a Lumia 640XL the day it was available at AT&T. Pretty much
had to argue with the sales rep that yes, I did in fact want to buy
it. After using it for a while, I ended up switching to Android just
to get a faster phone. I certainly wasn't going to drop cash on
another Windows 10 Mobile device.

Microsoft has made Windows 10 Mobile's future so cloudy and uncertain
that I wasn't going to drop another dime on a Windows 10 Mobile
device, even though I really do like the OS (especially, the Start
Screen).

It seems that Microsoft is doing everything it can to ensure Windows
10 Mobile is not a success.

02.08.2017 8:48, lifewoutmilk пишет:


It seems that Microsoft is doing everything it can to ensure Windows
10 Mobile is not a success.


Then you may like a comp.mobile.android newsgroup.

--
Evgenii Sputnik

Evgenii Sputnik wrote:

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows
for discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile. Will anyone use
this newsgroup???

If there are any mobile Windows users that do not use a
desktop PC, hopefully they will exit this group and post in
that group instead.

Mixing desktop windows with mobile Windows is idiotic. They
are different platforms intended for different uses.

Good luck.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 07:39:57 +0700, Evgenii Sputnik wrote:

Hello!

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows for
discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile.
Will anyone use this newsgroup??? Except me, I will certainly read it
and post sometimes even though I am an Android user and
comp.mobile.android's creator.


Evgenii


There already is a newsgroup, comp.os.ms-windows.ce.
It does not get a lot of traffic.

It is not clear whether creating another group would or would not
attract any more traffic. Windows Mobile ~ Windows CE lags well
behind Android and iOS.

Evgenii Sputnik wrote:
02.08.2017 8:48, lifewoutmilk пишет:


It seems that Microsoft is doing everything it can to ensure Windows
10 Mobile is not a success.


Then you may like a comp.mobile.android newsgroup.


I am already subscribed, but thanks.

On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 01:48:52 -0000 (UTC), lifewoutmilk
wrote:

Evgenii Sputnik wrote:
Hello!

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows for
discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile.
Will anyone use this newsgroup??? Except me, I will certainly read it
and post sometimes even though I am an Android user and
comp.mobile.android's creator.


Evgenii


I bought a Lumia 640XL the day it was available at AT&T. Pretty much
had to argue with the sales rep that yes, I did in fact want to buy
it. After using it for a while, I ended up switching to Android just
to get a faster phone. I certainly wasn't going to drop cash on
another Windows 10 Mobile device.

Microsoft has made Windows 10 Mobile's future so cloudy and uncertain
that I wasn't going to drop another dime on a Windows 10 Mobile
device, even though I really do like the OS (especially, the Start
Screen).

It seems that Microsoft is doing everything it can to ensure Windows
10 Mobile is not a success.

It's a shame because I liked it too and have very little desire to
support social justice warrior companies like Google and Apple.
Unfortunately, it lacked in third-party apps and the hardware I had
(Lumia 930) ended up getting a defecting in-call mic. If it hadn't,
I'd still be using it because it did the job and had the most scratch
resistant screen I've ever seen.

--
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EFF & OpenMedia member,
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter

Linux: The Chrysler of operating systems.

Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 01:48:52 -0000 (UTC), lifewoutmilk
wrote:

Evgenii Sputnik wrote:
Hello!

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows for
discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile.
Will anyone use this newsgroup??? Except me, I will certainly read it
and post sometimes even though I am an Android user and
comp.mobile.android's creator.


Evgenii


I bought a Lumia 640XL the day it was available at AT&T. Pretty much
had to argue with the sales rep that yes, I did in fact want to buy
it. After using it for a while, I ended up switching to Android just
to get a faster phone. I certainly wasn't going to drop cash on
another Windows 10 Mobile device.

Microsoft has made Windows 10 Mobile's future so cloudy and uncertain
that I wasn't going to drop another dime on a Windows 10 Mobile
device, even though I really do like the OS (especially, the Start
Screen).

It seems that Microsoft is doing everything it can to ensure Windows
10 Mobile is not a success.

It's a shame because I liked it too and have very little desire to
support social justice warrior companies like Google and Apple.
Unfortunately, it lacked in third-party apps and the hardware I had
(Lumia 930) ended up getting a defecting in-call mic. If it hadn't,
I'd still be using it because it did the job and had the most scratch
resistant screen I've ever seen.


What really started to bug me was when Microsoft started releasing
Android and IOS apps before bringing them to Windows 10 Mobile. I
understand why, but it still bothered me.

lifewoutmilk wrote:


What really started to bug me was when Microsoft started releasing
Android and IOS apps before bringing them to Windows 10 Mobile. I
understand why, but it still bothered me.

Timing is everything, especially since MSFT relies/relied, and more so
initially for Win10 Mobile(i.e. not Windows Phone) on 3rd party development
for Win10 apps.


Windows 10 Mobile debuted in 2015.

As an example Outlook mobile apps debuted in April 2014. The release and
code for Outlook mobile was from Acompli. Microsoft acquired Acompli in Dec.
2015.
- In the above case Outlook mobile app was available, not from MSFT, but
Acompli 15 months prior to the release of Windows 10. Also, due the
acquisition MSFT didn't release their MSFT branded Outlook app until ~6
months after Windows 10 release.



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msft mvp windows experience 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 01:10:02 -0000 (UTC), lifewoutmilk
wrote:

Doomsdrzej wrote:
On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 01:48:52 -0000 (UTC), lifewoutmilk
wrote:

Evgenii Sputnik wrote:
Hello!

I am going to create a newsgroup called comp.mobile.windows for
discussing Windows 10 and above Mobile.
Will anyone use this newsgroup??? Except me, I will certainly read it
and post sometimes even though I am an Android user and
comp.mobile.android's creator.


Evgenii


I bought a Lumia 640XL the day it was available at AT&T. Pretty much
had to argue with the sales rep that yes, I did in fact want to buy
it. After using it for a while, I ended up switching to Android just
to get a faster phone. I certainly wasn't going to drop cash on
another Windows 10 Mobile device.

Microsoft has made Windows 10 Mobile's future so cloudy and uncertain
that I wasn't going to drop another dime on a Windows 10 Mobile
device, even though I really do like the OS (especially, the Start
Screen).

It seems that Microsoft is doing everything it can to ensure Windows
10 Mobile is not a success.

It's a shame because I liked it too and have very little desire to
support social justice warrior companies like Google and Apple.
Unfortunately, it lacked in third-party apps and the hardware I had
(Lumia 930) ended up getting a defecting in-call mic. If it hadn't,
I'd still be using it because it did the job and had the most scratch
resistant screen I've ever seen.


What really started to bug me was when Microsoft started releasing
Android and IOS apps before bringing them to Windows 10 Mobile. I
understand why, but it still bothered me.

Considering how those apps didn't have a price attached to them, I
can't imagine the point unless they were trying to attract people to
office365.com or killing the momentum of compatible office suites.
Either way, Microsoft dropped the ball on Windows mobile the same way
that it dropped the ball on just about every other one of their great
creations:

1. Microsoft Xbox - Great platform, easy to program for but loud and
heavy.
2. Microsoft Xbox 360 - The greatest system between 2005 and 2013 but
loud and extremely unreliable.
3. Microsoft Zune - In every way better than the Apple iPod but poorly
marketed.
4. Windows Media Player - Lightweight in comparison to iTunes, capable
of inserting a media store through an add-on but never actually
promoted by the company.
5. Microsoft Edge - A great substitute for the clumsy and unsecure
Internet Explorer but lacked add-on support from the get-go.

And so on...

They ALWAYS do this to themselves. Microsoft is capable of coming up
with some great ideas (like modern apps) but terrible at persevering.
It appears that if the idea isn't immediately successful, they abandon
it. Windows mobile is just another one of those great ideas which
failed because they weren't happy at the thought of not immediately
getting 90% market share.

--
Doomsdrzej
EFF & OpenMedia member,
TheRebel.media & Infowars supporter

Linux: The Chrysler of operating systems.