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Good news for Windows users!
Mayayana wrote:
This looks to me very much like an IE strategy: Make a product that makes everything work better on Windows. Look for integrated OneDrive, widgets for gmail, etc. Otherwise it would make no sense for MS to just release yet another Chromium browser with a slightly different wrapper. "release yet another Chromium" === hell would freeze over Rest assured it'll look like Edge, with a Chromium engine. That'll be the end game. The real question would be, what would that accomplish ? What would any of this change accomplish ? It looks like a make-work project. It has no practical ramifications for end users, because they'll keep playing with it, until they "break" whatever advantage such a starting point might have had. Is it "embrace and extend" ? Who knows. I can't figure out what the point is. It'll just end up as another "test target" for web server developers, with appropriate "if-then-else" to handle "Mromium". Paul |
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Good news for Windows users!
On 2018-12-08 10:05 a.m., Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-12-07 20:21, SilverSlimer wrote: [...] Yep. Believe it or not, not all students are perfect little angels like what you socialists tend to believe. [...] I was a teacher, too. _No_ students are little angels. They're human beings. Did you really expect some of them to be little angels? No wonder you had problems as teacher. Me calling some students filth does not suggest that I had problems with the students. In fact, I was the go-to teacher when it came to disciplinary issues. I had a solution to every behavioural problem and still do. Perhaps Socialists like you need to stop making assumptions. I've taught psychopaths, so did you. I knew it for some of them (psychopaths aren't that easy to identify). Have you? Did you know it? What did you do about it? And you have no idea what my political views are. You confuse morality and religion with politics. Your judgemental behaviour and endless assumptions make it clear that you're a leftist as does your posts' tone. In them, you write as though you're on some sort of moral high ground which is typical of leftists. You're not fooling anyone. You're like that Hyundai Accent driver in the speeding lane. -- SilverSlimer Minds: @silverslimer |
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Good news for Windows users!
On 12/8/2018 9:48 AM, Paul wrote:
Mayayana wrote: it would make no sense for MS to just release yet another Chromium browser with a slightly different wrapper. Rest assured it'll look like Edge, with a Chromium engine. That'll be the end game. It has no practical ramifications for end users When using my el cheapo under powered W10 tablet (Acer One 10) to stream Cox Contour TV channels in Edge I get momentary freezes. Not so using Google Chrome. Perhaps Edge with a Chromium engine will improve things for under powered devices. |
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Good news for Windows users!
SilverSlimer wrote:
In fact, I was the go-to teacher when it came to disciplinary issues. I bet you'd be no match for our Grade 9 gym teacher. He picked up a student by the neck, right off the floor (like he was Darth Vader) and slammed the student into the wall. And this was before Star Wars movies, so this wasn't a move he copied from a movie. What he was demonstrating to the student, is if you were to pick a fight with him, it wouldn't be a fair fight. None of the students complained (we didn't report it), and there also weren't any more performances like that. The gym teacher wasn't a "serial offender" like some of my other teachers in school were. You could tell the gym teacher must have still been visiting the weight room in the evening. He hadn't gone all flabby from school life. I mean, if you have to demonstrate the rope climb we used to have to do, up to the roof girder, you'd have to do that yourself. And he was still fit enough to do that. Paul |
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Good news for Windows users!
123456789 wrote:
On 12/8/2018 9:48 AM, Paul wrote: Mayayana wrote: it would make no sense for MS to just release yet another Chromium browser with a slightly different wrapper. Rest assured it'll look like Edge, with a Chromium engine. That'll be the end game. It has no practical ramifications for end users When using my el cheapo under powered W10 tablet (Acer One 10) to stream Cox Contour TV channels in Edge I get momentary freezes. Not so using Google Chrome. Perhaps Edge with a Chromium engine will improve things for under powered devices. It will behave better, if they leave the Chromium display driving portion alone. But they really can't do that. To make this new "toy" run on Windows10-S, they'll have to use the same techniques Edge uses today. They can't leave any "Win32" behavior in their new browser. Expect it to behave just like Edge, when they're finished. If they could do away with Windows10-S, this would not have to happen, and more of the positive aspects could be saved. Paul |
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Good news for Windows users!
On 2018-12-08 1:59 p.m., Paul wrote:
SilverSlimer wrote: In fact, I was the go-to teacher when it came to disciplinary issues. I bet you'd be no match for our Grade 9 gym teacher. He picked up a student by the neck, right off the floor (like he was Darth Vader) and slammed the student into the wall. And this was before Star Wars movies, so this wasn't a move he copied from a movie. What he was demonstrating to the student, is if you were to pick a fight with him, it wouldn't be a fair fight. None of the students complained (we didn't report it), and there also weren't any more performances like that. The gym teacher wasn't a "serial offender" like some of my other teachers in school were. You could tell the gym teacher must have still been visiting the weight room in the evening. He hadn't gone all flabby from school life. I mean, if you have to demonstrate the rope climb we used to have to do, up to the roof girder, you'd have to do that yourself. And he was still fit enough to do that. Nowadays, something like that would have gotten you both arrested and fired. In fact, I was told of issues where elementary schoolchildren kicked teachers for a while and when the teacher reacted - by grabbing the child by the shoulders and saying "Stop!" - they were arrested, investigated and eventually dismissed. My discipline involves careful psychology and even then, it's considered too much by many. Kids and their parents are increasingly given power and the climate is absolutely insufferable for many to the point that a good proportion of teachers leave the profession within the first five years. Those teachers aren't incompetent either; they simply wanted to teach and were very good at it, but the profession favours the masochists rather than the the organized intellectuals. -- SilverSlimer Minds: @silverslimer |
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Good news for Windows users!
On 12/8/2018 12:03 PM, Paul wrote:
123456789 wrote: When using my el cheapo under powered W10 tablet (Acer One 10) to stream Cox Contour TV channels in Edge I get momentary freezes. Not so using Google Chrome. Perhaps Edge with a Chromium engine will improve things for under powered devices. From your comments below I thought you might think my under powered Asus tablet runs W10-S. It does not. It came with the a full w10 version. It will behave better, if they leave the Chromium display driving portion alone. They apparently a "Although Edge will survive, it will no longer be a Microsoft-made browser: It will exist as a UI (user interface) wrapper around core technologies developed almost entirely by Google engineers" https://www.computerworld.com/articl...owser-war.html But they really can't do that. To make this new "toy" run on Windows10-S, they'll have to use the same techniques Edge uses today. W10-S has apparently had the ability to run the Google Chrome browser for over a year now. So why not the new MS Chromium Edge browser? "there’s an unofficial way to run Win32 apps on a Windows 10 S system. The Citrix receiver app will let users install and run programs with a ..exe extension and the likes, on Windows 10 S computers" "What this means is that if you opt for a Surface Laptop with Windows 10S, you will be able to run Google Chrome" https://www.deccanchronicle.com/tech...ndows-10s.html Expect it to behave just like Edge, when they're finished. Apparently I should expect it to run just like Chrome when they're finished. If they could do away with Windows10-S, this would not have to happen, and more of the positive aspects could be saved. Perhaps you could elaborate (but not too much)... |
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Good news for Windows users!
"Paul" wrote
| The "bug" you note was reported in the Vivaldi | forum... and promptly ignored. The thread got 1100 views | according to the counter, so some other people were looking | for info on that. Of course, a bug isn't a bug | unless it's recorded in a bugtracker - then it | would get attention. | I found another obscure and odd thing about Vivaldi. According to Depends it seems to be using winhttp.dll to get webpages, rather than a direct winsock conversation with the server. Very odd, but also relevant to WinXP/7 users: TLS 1.2 is not enabled by default on those systems. A security update and Registry settings are required to enable it through winhttp. |
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Good news for Windows users!
Mayayana wrote:
"Paul" wrote | The "bug" you note was reported in the Vivaldi | forum... and promptly ignored. The thread got 1100 views | according to the counter, so some other people were looking | for info on that. Of course, a bug isn't a bug | unless it's recorded in a bugtracker - then it | would get attention. | I found another obscure and odd thing about Vivaldi. According to Depends it seems to be using winhttp.dll to get webpages, rather than a direct winsock conversation with the server. Very odd, but also relevant to WinXP/7 users: TLS 1.2 is not enabled by default on those systems. A security update and Registry settings are required to enable it through winhttp. Might it be using both approaches, depending on situation ? Try pointing your test browser at the ssllabs site and test. https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html Paul |
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Good news for Windows users!
"Paul" wrote
| Might it be using both approaches, depending on situation ? | It seems odd because winhttp is basically a winsock wrapper for use with Windows software. It was designed to replace older methods for downloading files that were really just IE wrappers. But it doesn't provide full access to the server conversation. I wouldn't expect a browser to use it. | Try pointing your test browser at the ssllabs site and test. | | https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/viewMyClient.html | I already removed Vivaldi. It was something like 150 MB and I had no inrtention of using it in the future, so I cleared the space. |
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Good news for Windows users!
On 12/8/18 6:55 AM, Wolf K wrote:
On 2018-12-08 02:34, T wrote: [...] We butchered over a hundred thousand children last year (abortion) alone.Â* The karma on that one has got to be something to behold. [...] Approximately 1/4 of pregnancies in the UK end in miscarriage. https://www.tommys.org/our-organisat...cs/miscarriage Some obgyn researchers estimate that a much larger proportion of fertilisations fail to implant. (That process takes about 2 weeks. Some of those failures are noticed as delayed periods. Any couple that has "tried for a baby" knows that it's not nearly as easy as abstain-before-marriage folks imply.) That's millions of unborn babies. The karma on that has to affect someone. Maybe the god who created that process. Best, That is sad news. Now of those miscarriages, did their parents mourn the loss of a zit or a human being? There is a big, big difference between a natural process (miscarriage) and an outright murder. The karma on butchering such a helpless human being has got to be something to behold |
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Good news for Windows users!
On 12/8/18 6:55 AM, Wolf K wrote:
Maybe the god who created that process. So, may I presume that you believe in Intelligent Design? |
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On 12/8/18 11:29 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
Nowadays, something like that would have gotten you both arrested and fired. I can send you guys a cake with a file inside. No? |
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Firefox sometimes scrolls badly but Opera does better.
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Fri, 07 Dec 2018 01:10:43 -0500, micky
wrote: I like and use Firefox to, but recently Page Up and Page Down, and the Up and Down arrows have made the page jump all over the place. Clicking in the scroll bar including the ends of the scroll bar does the same iirc. I've gotten several updates since the date above Dec 7, and it still jumps up and downwhen I use Up and Down or Page up and down. At least when I'm looking at the Trip Advisor forum, and maybe elsewhere. I ended up using Opera, and it doesn't do that at all. so if others have this problem, try Opera or some other browser. Opera is missing some features so I may just keep it for trip advisor and use FF for other stuff. I t hink this has happened on other pages but it almost constantly happens in the Forums at www.tripadvisor.com . Has anyone else noticed this? TripAdvisor or other places too. Do I have to report it, or will all the beta testers do so? |
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