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Photos at start of Win 10
On Mon, 25 Jun 2018 01:40:20 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
Ken wanted to know the actual geographical locations at which those wallpapers were photographed, not file locations of those wallpapers. Anyway, your reply might still help. Heh heh ... It's all good as we're helping everyone by helping each other. To your first point, I clearly *knew* you'd say what you just said (in a way), which is why you'll note that my response to your post very obviously and very purposefully uses the phrases below repeatedly: * "Further building upon that answer"; * "Googling further"; * "Building upon that answer"; * "Googling further, we find this related folder"; * and that this topic "is a good one to flesh out". So, we agree. a. You answered the question directly, while, b. The rest of us helpfully fleshed the topic out even further. That's how Usenet works when it works well (as it did here). I'm not complaining about your response, as I'm *agreeing* with you that you *directly* answered the OP's question, where I took great pains to clearly and repeatedly state that I was simply further fleshing out the topic overall of OS-based lockscreen image peculiarities. The fact you ended your post with "Anyway, your reply might still help" shows that we both understand two very clear points: 1. You directly and succinctly answered the OP's question, and, 2. I purposefully fleshed out the overall topic in far greater detail. (as did others, like Paul, Char Jackson, Auric__, & Monty) Neither of us is wrong. a. You answered the question; and, b. The rest of us fleshed out the topic further from there. Since you already answered the question, I took it upon myself to learn more and dig deeper into the overall lock-screen problem set, where I clearly stated in my post that I hadn't delved into the details before but that my curiosity was piqued by the OP's question. In the end, after reading a score of articles on the Usenet, I *still* needed Paul's help to flesh out some of those details, as noted by this screenshot, so, we all benefit from the interaction, where our useful information is now available in the tribal archives for others to benefit from as they stand on our shoulders. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_lockscreen01.jpg It's all good as we're helping everyone by helping each other. |
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Photos at start of Win 10
Ken wrote:
I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity.Â* When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears.Â* These photos change frequently.Â* Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken.Â* Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? I had no idea that the answer was so complex. I appreciate the responses of those who did respond, but I was hoping for a simple location or answer to my question. Some of the responses were quite lengthy, and I am sure they were valid. They were however more complex than I thought I would receive. What was thought to be a simple question became a very complex answer. I am sorry to have created so much trouble, and appreciate your efforts to answer my question. |
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Ken wrote:
Ken wrote: I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity. When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears. These photos change frequently. Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken. Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? I had no idea that the answer was so complex. I appreciate the responses of those who did respond, but I was hoping for a simple location or answer to my question. Some of the responses were quite lengthy, and I am sure they were valid. They were however more complex than I thought I would receive. What was thought to be a simple question became a very complex answer. I am sorry to have created so much trouble, and appreciate your efforts to answer my question. The answer is quite simple. C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Packages\ Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2tx yewy\LocalState\Assets ff782ce3c9a149c1a13d00b69219712970f9f85d549afb5e4c 66c213aa072f41 === a JPEG etc. Open an Irfanview window, drag and drop one of the bigger (higher byte count) files in the directory onto Irfanview. If it asks to put a file extension on the file, *deny* this request, since you don't want to affect the file in any way while visiting. I tried turning off that Irfanview request dialog, and the control for it didn't work. The people answering the question, knew what they were getting into when they started. As it's like Microsoft to obfuscate stuff. Nothing to apologize for. I'm surprised there's a usable answer. I was expecting to find a Jet Blue database file with all the images hidden inside. That's what I would do if I was a Junior Programmer sitting in a Microsoft cubicle, is make a real challenge for the customers. Now, your task, is to see if you can find the comment text English that appears on those images :-) That should be a fun project. Also, once you have a filename, such as the sample above, do a search in Regedit and see if the filename in question is stored in there. If it's in there, the name "ContentDeliveryManager" should be part of the keys you find. Finding that folder, is just the first part of the adventure. Paul |
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Paul wrote:
Ken wrote: Ken wrote: I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity. When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears. These photos change frequently. Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken. Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? I had no idea that the answer was so complex. I appreciate the responses of those who did respond, but I was hoping for a simple location or answer to my question. Some of the responses were quite lengthy, and I am sure they were valid. They were however more complex than I thought I would receive. What was thought to be a simple question became a very complex answer. I am sorry to have created so much trouble, and appreciate your efforts to answer my question. The answer is quite simple. C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Packages\ Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2tx yewy\LocalState\Assets ff782ce3c9a149c1a13d00b69219712970f9f85d549afb5e4c 66c213aa072f41 === a JPEG etc. That's still not it. The identifier here, the x-y-z part is a SID (security identifier) which is a random function of a particular OS install. The 1001 is a user account (normally they start at 1000). This would have come into the machine at a larger size, and been downsized to fit my screen. And that means, I can't do a simple search on file size, to see it come in via BITS. C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData\S-1-5-21-xxxxxxxxx-yyyyyyyyyy-zzzzzzzzzz-1001\ ReadOnly\LockScreen_O\LockScreen___1440_0900_notdi mmed.jpg It's also stripped of EXIF. The text that comes with it, perhaps it was contained in the source photo, which I can't find. The LockScreen_W folder, contains your normal login background. By using the camera icon here, you can upload the image to the google image search, and the picture I had in my folder was "Medvednica Croatia Forest". https://www.google.ca/imghp?hl=en&tab=wi That worked better than it normally does, as previous attempts to search for images got me "mostly crap" for results. This time I got multiple exact hits, which is some kind of miracle. ******* I used Procmon and did boot logging to catch the path in question above. Paul |
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"Ken" wrote in message news
I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity. When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears. These photos change frequently. Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken. Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? See https://www.intowindows.com/know-whe...ure-was-taken/ ....w¡ñ§±¤ñ ms mvp windows 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 20:02:35 -0400, Paul wrote:
The answer is quite simple. C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Packages\ Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2tx yewy\LocalState\Assets ff782ce3c9a149c1a13d00b69219712970f9f85d549afb5e4c 66c213aa072f41 === a JPEG etc. Hi Paul, I think there are a few locations for "lockscreen" files, where the location matters depending on the particular question asked about them. %WINDIR%\Web\Screen\. %LOCALAPPDATA%\Packages\Microsoft.Windows.ContentD eliveryManager_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState\Assets\. C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData\S-1-5-21-*\ReadOnly\LockScreen_0\. Open an Irfanview window, drag and drop one of the bigger (higher byte count) files in the directory onto Irfanview. If it asks to put a file extension on the file, *deny* this request, since you don't want to affect the file in any way while visiting. I tried turning off that Irfanview request dialog, and the control for it didn't work. In my "Assets" folder, mine were all PNGs, where very few (almost none) were even remotely related to the lock screen images (but a couple were the current lock screen AFAICT). http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_assets.jpg The people answering the question, knew what they were getting into when they started. As it's like Microsoft to obfuscate stuff. Nothing to apologize for. Exactly. While I don't normally bother with decorative niceties such as a lockscreen photo, my interest was piqued by the question where I tried to dig further into what Microsoft was actually doing, what they were changing, where they were storing the files, when they changed those files, etc. It's all part of Usenet working well together, as it did on this thread, where the worthless trolls, surprisingly, have shied away from this thread (perhaps partly due to the strategic troll-shaming effort underway). |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:39:18 -0400, Paul wrote:
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData\S-1-5-21-xxxxxxxxx-yyyyyyyyyy-zzzzzzzzzz-1001\ ReadOnly\LockScreen_O\LockScreen___1440_0900_notdi mmed.jpg I used Procmon and did boot logging to catch the path in question above. Hi Paul, You did far better than I when I was trying to figure out what is inside that cryptically secured "Lockscreen_0" folder earlier today, so kudos to you on that successful delving effort. For the tribal record, here are my screenshots of the related locations: 1: %WINDIR%\Web\Screen\. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_lockscreenimage1.jpg 2. %LOCALAPPDATA%\Packages\Microsoft.Windows.ContentD eliveryManager_cw5n1h2txyewy\LocalState\Assets\. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_lockscreenimage2.jpg 3. C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\SystemData\S-1-5-21-*\ReadOnly\LockScreen_0\. http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_lockscreenimage3.jpg I presume Microsoft will change the data in these three locations upon each reboot, but I haven't tested that out to be sure. |
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....w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote:
"Ken" wrote in message news I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity. When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears. These photos change frequently. Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken. Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? See https://www.intowindows.com/know-whe...ure-was-taken/ ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ ms mvp windows 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 The descriptive information doesn't seem to be stored inside the lockscreen picture itself, nor as a separate file. At some point, a higher resolution picture must be getting downloaded, then it's adjusted to fit the current screen (1440x900 on my test machine) and stored in the Lockscreen_O folder. Running Procmon, so far I haven't been able to spot the picture coming in over the network. I presume it's delivered dynamically, rather than being "canned" in the installer DVD. As that would be a waste of install-time space. The nice thing though, is the descriptive text for the one I've got now, is pretty unique. A search with HxD spotted the annotation text, but figuring out which file that is, isn't particularly easy. Fortunately, the hit isn't Unicode. Which will make finding it a tiny bit easier with a second method. Paul |
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Paul wrote:
...w¡ñ§±¤ñ wrote: "Ken" wrote in message news I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity. When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears. These photos change frequently. Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken. Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? See https://www.intowindows.com/know-whe...ure-was-taken/ ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ ms mvp windows 2007-2016, insider mvp 2016-2018 The descriptive information doesn't seem to be stored inside the lockscreen picture itself, nor as a separate file. At some point, a higher resolution picture must be getting downloaded, then it's adjusted to fit the current screen (1440x900 on my test machine) and stored in the Lockscreen_O folder. Running Procmon, so far I haven't been able to spot the picture coming in over the network. I presume it's delivered dynamically, rather than being "canned" in the installer DVD. As that would be a waste of install-time space. The nice thing though, is the descriptive text for the one I've got now, is pretty unique. A search with HxD spotted the annotation text, but figuring out which file that is, isn't particularly easy. Fortunately, the hit isn't Unicode. Which will make finding it a tiny bit easier with a second method. Paul This file may be coincidental. C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft .Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2txyewy\ LocalState\ContentManagementSDK\Creatives\338387\1 529806393 This one seems to be the lock screen. Googling the Lockscreen JPEG file got me "Medvednica Croatia Forest". And this is some file content to put the text on the image. C:\Users\UserName\AppData\Local\Packages\Microsoft .Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2txyewy\ LocalState\TargetedContentCache\v3\338387\4cd2d8e8 8326405d94842f58316a3718_1 These are the incoming files, which apparently don't stick around after they've been scaled down. "properties": { "landscapeImage": { "fileSize": 464806, "height": 1080, "sha256": "xsI2WxxouGtykzi5yQWHhUfOweWFwTcj61lyvTQqEKU=" , "width": 1920, "image": "C:\\Users\\UserName\\AppData\\Local\\Packages \\ Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2tx yewy\\ LocalState\\Assets\\ ca71ba93a33da65caca9412983185a7c787590b7e39382b560 56ed16a06785d1" }, "portraitImage": { "fileSize": 532518, "height": 1920, "sha256": "sZ/9M7Cidqy7UaYhSCezprA45ulCiioWYOWngtyzslM=", "width": 1080, "image": "C:\\Users\\UserName\\AppData\\Local\\Packages \\ Microsoft.Windows.ContentDeliveryManager_cw5n1h2tx yewy\\ LocalState\\Assets\\ 70ada7d4ff3e358b8fec327b51552e0138f2cfe89b097c5e81 3dc9ef4995e68b" }, Then comes the comment on the screen. "properties": { "template": { "text": "basicHotspot" }, "title": { "text": "It may be hard to imagine that just south of this tranquil forest lies…" }, "actionText": { "text": "One of the liveliest capital cities in Central Europe" }, ... "description": { "text": "Medvednica, Croatia" }, The file is a bit of a mess. I loaded it into jsbeautifier.org to clean it up (a formatter that runs locally in your browser). Paul |
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2018 18:50:44 -0500, Ken wrote:
What was thought to be a simple question became a very complex answer. Often the case, e.g. in 'Why is the sky blue?' |
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On 23/06/2018 17:02, Ken wrote:
I know this is not very important, but it is a curiosity.Â* When Windows 10 starts a photo is shown before the desktop appears.Â* These photos change frequently.Â* Some of the photos are stunning, and I wonder where they were taken.Â* Is there a site or way of fining out where they were taken? I just found that there was a magnify glass by one of the icons, I clicked it and was with the Password/Pin box. When I was signed-in, 'Edge' opened and gave all the gumph on the pictures. |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 10:59:05 +0100, Patrick wrote:
I just found that there was a magnify glass by one of the icons, I clicked it and was with the Password/Pin box. When I was signed-in, 'Edge' opened and gave all the gumph on the pictures. I have a question about the pictures that can only be answered by others. I don't play games, but the whole Microsoft lockscreen image seems to be a "game" that Microsoft Marketing devised, because most people love to play silly games. Hence, the screen has those magnifying glasses all over it where people can "find Waldo", which, I assume Microsoft marketing thinks people will find amusing. I only wonder the algorithm and locations of how it works. For example... Does everyone on the planet get the _same_ lockscreen images each day? (Or are they random, per machine, or per person, or per selections?) That is, if we never change the settings ... do we all get the same images? If not, how does the algorithm work to select our lockscreen images? Do we all see the same images if we never set any other settings? For example, today, after rebooting, Microsoft gave me a lockscreen of: Rab Island, Croatia (C) Geribody / Getty Images If you don't know ... that's fine. Then it just means we don't know. But did those of you who never hit the icons get the Croatia image today? |
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