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  #1  
Old December 26th 03, 09:06 PM
Quentin David Jones
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

Greetings,

I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002 including SP1)

The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.

BUT -

then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
(just the New Installation).

So,
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?


For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a Corporate XP
version) and I saw an error
"This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
available" -
so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.

(I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation either.
I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -

Please,
could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP


thanks...

QuentinJ


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  #2  
Old December 26th 03, 09:06 PM
Mike Mulligan
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

Typically, OEM operating systems only install on computers made by that OEM.

Mike Mulligan

"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message
...
Greetings,

I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002 including

SP1)

The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.

BUT -

then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
(just the New Installation).

So,
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?


For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a Corporate XP
version) and I saw an error
"This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
available" -
so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.

(I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation either.
I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -

Please,
could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP


thanks...

QuentinJ



  #3  
Old December 26th 03, 09:06 PM
Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

Hi Quentin,

OEM versions generally cannot be used to upgrade an existing =
installation, they are designed for clean installs only. The error =
message you saw in the machine at work is typical of this. If you want =
to test it (you'll get the same message), boot from a startup floppy and =
run winnt.exe from the I386 folder on the CD.

--=20
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Win98 Help - www.rickrogers.org

"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message =
...
Greetings,
=20
I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002 =

including SP1)
=20
The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.
=20
BUT -
=20
then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
(just the New Installation).
=20
So,
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?
=20
=20
For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a Corporate =

XP
version) and I saw an error
"This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
available" -
so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.
=20
(I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation =

either.
I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -
=20
Please,
could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP
=20
=20
thanks...
=20
QuentinJ
=20

  #4  
Old December 26th 03, 09:06 PM
KnightOfTheKingOfPop
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

Yes you ran into the limitation (perhaps the only one that is important) of
the OEM.

OEM is normally sold with a NEW computer, so there is no reason to have the
UPGRADE capability.

That is why it has a lower price.

Another limitation is that you dont have Microsoft support, but your support
comes from the person who sold you the OEM.

But who cares about Microsoft support? The best way to get support is
through the web and through this newsgroup which is for everyone and FREE.


Want my advice? Let XP do a clean install.... most upgrades leave you with
BUGS and trash on the computer that creates some problems later on. I seldom
do upgrades.

Kenny

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"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message
...
Greetings,

I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002 including

SP1)

The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.

BUT -

then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
(just the New Installation).

So,
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?


For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a Corporate XP
version) and I saw an error
"This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
available" -
so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.

(I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation either.
I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -

Please,
could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP


thanks...

QuentinJ




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  #5  
Old December 26th 03, 09:06 PM
Quentin David Jones
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

Thanks Rick,

I see.
So what I needed was a NON OEM version.

Oh well - I'll use the transfer wizard etc.

thanks,

Quentin



"Rick "Nutcase" Rogers" wrote in message
...
Hi Quentin,

OEM versions generally cannot be used to upgrade an existing installation,
they are designed for clean installs only. The error message you saw in the
machine at work is typical of this. If you want to test it (you'll get the
same message), boot from a startup floppy and run winnt.exe from the I386
folder on the CD.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Win98 Help - www.rickrogers.org

"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message
...
Greetings,

I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002 including

SP1)

The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.

BUT -

then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
(just the New Installation).

So,
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?


For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a Corporate XP
version) and I saw an error
"This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
available" -
so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.

(I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation either.
I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -

Please,
could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP


thanks...

QuentinJ




  #6  
Old December 26th 03, 09:06 PM
Bruce Chambers
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

Greetings --

OEM CDs cannot be used to perform upgrades. They are specifically
designed to perform only new installations, preferably on empty hard
drives.

Bruce Chambers

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"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message
...
Greetings,

I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002

including SP1)

The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.

BUT -

then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
(just the New Installation).

So,
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?


For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a

Corporate XP
version) and I saw an error
"This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
available" -
so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.

(I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation

either.
I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -

Please,
could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP


thanks...

QuentinJ




  #7  
Old December 26th 03, 09:07 PM
Jason Playne
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

.... you want to install XP over 9x...

first words of advice... don't.

XP is NT based and 9x is not...

both are totally different operating systems...

my suggestion, rename your Windows and program files folders, and install
fresh, then re-install all of your apps

this will make things go _alot_ smoother in the future..

Jason (experienced and seasoned M$ OS Installer)

"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message
...
| Greetings,
|
| I just upgraded my old home PC (Athlon2000 etc.)
| I bought a new Windows XP Professional OEM pack (version 2002 including
SP1)
|
| The old PC is FAT16 Win95 -
| I upgraded that to Win98SE temporarily, then converted to FAT32.
|
| BUT -
|
| then when I then try to install the new WinXP from Win98
| I DON'T see any Upgrade Install option
| (just the New Installation).
|
| So,
| Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?
|
|
| For a test, I inserted the new XP CD into my work PC (with a Corporate XP
| version) and I saw an error
| "This version cannot be upgraded, no Upgrade install option will be
| available" -
| so it sure seems this CD CAN support an Upgrade install.
|
| (I know I can probably use the File and Settings Transfer wizard if
| necessary, but the Upgrade is a much better method I think).
| The little green manual says nothing about Upgrade Installation either.
| I did a search around, could not seem to find any quick answer -
|
| Please,
| could someone help me with doing this UPGRADE from Win98 to WinXP
|
|
| thanks...
|
| QuentinJ
|
|


  #8  
Old December 26th 03, 09:08 PM
Startek
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Default No Upgrade install option on new XP Prof OEM?

"Quentin David Jones" wrote in message
...
Anyone know WHY there is no "Upgrade" Install?


You have the OEM version, which you stated. OEM means for new systems only.
You would have had to buy an upgrade version if you wanted to upgrade.

Installing the OS anew will mean a nice, clean Windows directory too. Bad
side is of course that none of your installed programs are installed any
more.


 




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