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  #16  
Old November 5th 07, 02:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Daave
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Posts: 3,568
Default Registry Cleaner

Are you saying you would rather not share with us your results? Since
you're making a claim, I wanted to give you the opportunity to back it
up. Perhaps I will run my own tests some time in the future. But for
now, I'd like to see evidence from someone who has experience.

I don't see it as a matter of following any herd. Rather, it's an
application of critical thinking and the scientific method. If the herd
also shares my value of wanting to see evidence, then perhaps it's not
such a bad herd to belong to.


D. Spencer Hines wrote:
I ran careful tests.

Yes, I ran controls.

Run your own tests.

Don't just follow the lowing herd.

DSH

"Daave" wrote in message
...

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner
has improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly
identical machines without CCleaner.


Do you have test results you're willing to share? How did you measure
the improvement in performance? Did you control for the effect of
Ccleaner's primary function (clearing temp files)?

I have an open mind. But I would also like to see evidence.




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  #17  
Old November 5th 07, 03:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
D. Spencer Hines[_2_]
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Posts: 187
Default Registry Cleaner

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas


  #18  
Old November 5th 07, 03:28 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
db ´¯`·.. >
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Default Registry Cleaner

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.



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..


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas


  #19  
Old November 5th 07, 03:29 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
db ´¯`·.. >
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yeh, that's an excellent
one.

i remember chatting with
him on a couple of occassions
a few years ago - a humble
genuis; he is.


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"HEMI-Powered" wrote in message
...
D. Spencer Hines added these comments in the current discussion
du jour ...

Twaddle...

My experience proves otherwise.

DSH


I clean my Registry periodically with JV16 Powertools 100% only
to get rid of unnessary clutter such as obsolete or invalid keys,
leftover shortcuts and the like. Can't say I have ever seen a
performance increase, though.

"John John" wrote in message
...

That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not
improve performance.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nope...

Bollixed Thinking...

I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry
Cleaner has improved performance on nine of them -- as
compared to exactly identical machines without CCleaner.

DSH

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as
long as you
step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to
determine if it really is an "issue" or not, and then
decide whether or not to let the application "fix" it. In
my testing, though, most of the reported "issues" won't be
issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a brand-new
OS installation with no additional applications installed,
and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and
CCleaner still managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly
orphaned registry entries and dozens of purportedly
"suspicious" files.

CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it,
lies in its
usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the
hard drive; as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly
better or worse than any other snake oil product of the
same type.

And improves performance.

Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been
proven to improve performance; the actions they perform are
not the sort that could have any affect on a computer's
performance.







--
HP, aka Jerry


  #20  
Old November 5th 07, 03:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
D. Spencer Hines[_2_]
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Posts: 187
Default Registry Cleaner

Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing
my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email
or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas



  #21  
Old November 5th 07, 04:49 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Daave
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Default Registry Cleaner

No bait. You're the one who made the claim. I've used Ccleaner and have
only found the clearing of temp files to be beneficial. If you've done
more extensive testing, good for you. But bear in mind that is was YOU
who made the claim in the first place! And I still find it interesting
you're unwilling to back it up.

Belief and knowledge are two different things...


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ."
databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote in message
news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of
the tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back
and forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as
managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or
email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order.
g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses,
faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been
Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't
speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas




  #22  
Old November 5th 07, 05:15 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Unknown
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Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Cleaner

Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing
my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email
or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses,
faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed --
No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't
speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas





  #23  
Old November 5th 07, 05:33 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
db ´¯`·.. >
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oh..., back off.

it was he who was
providing a suggestion
and it wasn't provided
to you.

ps: you were baiting him
because you wanted to make
this discussion into an argument.

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)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º



..


"Daave" wrote in message
...
No bait. You're the one who made the claim. I've used Ccleaner and have only
found the clearing of temp files to be beneficial. If you've done more
extensive testing, good for you. But bear in mind that is was YOU who made the
claim in the first place! And I still find it interesting you're unwilling to
back it up.

Belief and knowledge are two different things...


"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas





  #24  
Old November 5th 07, 05:37 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
db ´¯`·.. >
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absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º



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"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed -- No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the Registry.
So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas






  #25  
Old November 5th 07, 05:48 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
mhc
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Posts: 65
Default Registry Cleaner

Unknown wrote:
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.


I can think of one scenario where the use of a registry cleaner might improve
performance, but it would require the use of two additional programs. Here's the
four-step process:

1. use registry cleaner
2. defragment volume that contains registry
3. use registry compacter (eg, NTREGOPT)
4. reboot system

Using this process, NTREGOPT will create a new, smaller registry that will not
be fragmented. Defragmenting the registry in this fashion WILL have a positive
impact on performance, particularly during the boot process when large chunks of
the registry are manipulated.

Now, one can argue whether the performance boost was due to NTREGOPT or the
registry cleaner, but that's for others to debate. For what it's worth, I use
NTREGOPT every couple months, but I never use a registry cleaner. For many
reasons, I perform registry cleaning tasks manually...
  #26  
Old November 5th 07, 06:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
Unknown
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Posts: 6,007
Default Registry Cleaner

You in no way accomplished my request. Give me a logical explanation not a
sales pitch. If you have games installed on your computer would you speed up
your computer if you deleted them? Get realistic.
" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...
absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º



.


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º

"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as
managing my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or
email or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order.
g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses,
faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed --
No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't
speak to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas







  #27  
Old November 5th 07, 07:40 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
John John
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Posts: 3,149
Default Registry Cleaner

If it is so great why haven't they (Microsoft OneCare) included a
registry cleaner in their product? Maybe it's because registry cleaning
provides too great risks of damages while doing nothing to improve
performance...

http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...73886&SiteID=2
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...cope=allforums

John



db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. . wrote:

absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.


  #28  
Old November 5th 07, 09:02 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
db ´¯`·.. >
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Posts: 896
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well,
it makes no difference
to me or microsoft or
the world.

unfortunate for you that
no one here owes you
any explanations about
anything.

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db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º



..


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
You in no way accomplished my request. Give me a logical explanation not a
sales pitch. If you have games installed on your computer would you speed up
your computer if you deleted them? Get realistic.
" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com wrote
in message ...
absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.

--

db ·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·..)))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º¸.
)))º·´¯`·.¸. , . .·´¯`·.. )))º`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸.·´¯`·...¸)))º



.


"Unknown" wrote in message
t...
Will you and db be so kind as to give us any logical explanation of HOW a
register cleaner can improve performance?
Don't say by getting rid of unneeded data. Give a LOGICAL explanation.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
Right!

He just wants someone else to do his work for him.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message news:%23duS%

...

he is a sly one and
was just baiting you.

if he had such an open
mind, he could download
the program and test it
himself.
--

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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...

I don't give a rat's rear end whether you believe me or not.

I'm not trying to sell anything.

So, it's not worth my time and effort to post elaborate results of the
tests
I ran -- which will simply lead to a long thread of worthless back and
forth
caterwauling.

I can use that time far better in other useful pursuits such as managing
my
stock portfolio, working on the car, writing a historical post or email
or
doing something nice for my wife -- not necessarily in that order. g

I ran controlled tests on nine different machines with various
configurations -- using the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner.

Performance was improved on all of them -- fewer hangs and pauses, faster
loading of applications, faster executions of commands and faster
startups
and shutdowns.

No Glitches -- Removing Something That Should Not Have Been Removed --
No
FUD.

I have no experience of using other Registry Cleaners -- so I can't speak
to
them.

I do, carefully, sometimes manually remove or make changes to the
Registry. So, I'm not a barefoot empiricist.

Your Mileage May Vary...

So, Run Your Own Tests.

Bonne Chance!

DSH

Lux et Veritas et Libertas








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Old November 5th 07, 09:56 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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Unfortunate part is that they are neither safe or effective.
Post facts not your emotions.
"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...
G

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/article/registry_cleaner_why.htm

Yes, they are not-too-smart, narrow-minded technicians who have seen
pogues misuse Registry Cleaners and want to proscribe them for ALL of us.

Bruce Chambers seems to be one of the worst of them.

I would certainly concur that an unguided Registry Cleaner in the hands of
a
Naive Newbie is a dangerous weapon indeed.

But I've found the Registry Cleaner in CCleaner to be BOTH safe and
effective.

'Nuff Said.

DSH

" db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. ." databaseben.public.newsgroup.microsoft.com
wrote in message ...
you are correct
about the performance
of the registry database
file and thousands would
agree as well as Microsoft.

in fact, microsoft invented
the first registry cleaner because
maintaining the database was
as critical then as it is now.

now microsoft certified technicians
not only redeveloped their registry
cleaner but wrote a whole page on
the subject:

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm

isn't humorous how
some believe that they are
more knowledgeable
on windows than
microsoft is???

don't spend too much
time debating the issue.
some of these guys are
habitual antagonist and
disruptive and enjoy
manipulation and a reason
to use name calling.

the facts are clear and
microsoft facts relating
to its registry is the final
word regarding this issue.

(you know that they are
likely hypocrites because
they likely used registry
cleaners themselves)

incidentally, you might
enjoy the newsgroup if
you use a killfile to filter
out the irritations.
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"D. Spencer Hines" wrote in message
...


Twaddle...

My experience proves otherwise.

DSH

"John John" wrote in message
...

That is an absurd claim, cleaning the registry does not improve
performance.

John

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nope...

Bollixed Thinking...

I've run tests on several machines and CCleaner's Registry Cleaner has
improved performance on nine of them -- as compared to exactly
identical machines without CCleaner.

DSH

"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
...

D. Spencer Hines wrote:

Nonsense...

CCleaner is safe as a Registry Cleaner....

CCleaner's registry scanner seems relatively benign, as long as
you
step through each detected "issue" one at a time, to determine if it
really is an "issue" or not, and then decide whether or not to let
the
application "fix" it. In my testing, though, most of the reported
"issues" won't be issues, at all. I tried the latest version on a
brand-new OS installation with no additional applications installed,
and certainly none installed and then uninstalled, and CCleaner still
managed to "find" over a hundred allegedly orphaned registry entries
and dozens of purportedly "suspicious" files.

CCleaner's sole strength, and the only reason I use it, lies in
its
usefulness for cleaning up unused temporary files from the hard
drive;
as a registry "cleaner," it's not significantly better or worse than
any other snake oil product of the same type.

And improves performance.

Utterly untrue. *NO* registry "cleaner" has ever been proven to
improve performance; the actions they perform are not the sort that
could have any affect on a computer's performance.





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Old November 5th 07, 09:57 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.customize,microsoft.public.windowsxp.help_and_support
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John John added these comments in the current discussion du jour
....

If it is so great why haven't they (Microsoft OneCare)
included a registry cleaner in their product? Maybe it's
because registry cleaning provides too great risks of damages
while doing nothing to improve performance...


For reasons known only to Bill Gates and God - is that the same
thing? - MS has eshewed all kinds of useful utilities and allowed
the 3rd party folks to take center stage. I've always wondered
what MS might've been able to do had they really tried.
Seriously, with no hint whatsoever about MS bashing, who better
to write competant utilities than the designer/builder of the
O/S?

http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...st.aspx?PostID
=1973886&SiteID=2
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO.../Search.aspx?w
ords=registry+cleaner&localechoice=9&SiteID=2&sear chscope=allfo
rums

John



db ´¯`·.. )))º` .. . wrote:

absolutely....

in fact you can here
it directly from the
experts he

http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...try_cleaner_wh
y.htm

the teams of code writers
and testers concur on
the above; according to
the chat i had with
a microsoft technician
several months ago.





--
HP, aka Jerry
 




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