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What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?



 
 
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  #16  
Old January 2nd 18, 05:31 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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Default What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?

/nIn news wrote:

Not me. The only thing that matters is the ability to transfer
files between various devices and my PC.


This is trivial to transfer files over the local LAN from Android to
Windows and vice versa.

I've been doing it for years using zero software on Windows and just the
one "FTP Server (Free)" open-source software on Android.

Windows file explorer works fine, as does FileZilla or WinSCP freeware to
transfer *anything* from or to Android and Windows over the LAN.

You can even use rsync-like tools to sync your Android memory with your
Windows hard disk.

The idea of looking for an Android app that works on Windows
sounds silly to me, considering the excess of Windows' apps that
has existed for decades.


VanguardLH kindly wrote up an extensive analysis of his Android tools with
respect to their need on Windows, as did I in response.

Other than the really free nice hourglass timers on Android, and the very
easy to use free photo manipulation tools, Wi-Fi debuggers (particularly
for laptops), Bluetooth OBD Scanners (for laptops), SMS/Visual Voicemail
apps, police/fire scanners, and calculator widgets, I think most of the
rest of the tools on my Android phone have better Windows counterparts.
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  #17  
Old January 2nd 18, 05:32 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Ralph Fox
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Default What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?

On Mon, 1 Jan 2018 22:41:35 -0000 (UTC), Joe Scotch wrote:

He who is Joe Scotch said on Mon, 1 Jan 2018 21:29:18 -0000 (UTC):

Is this the basic process?

1. Install & configure a virtual machine on the host OS
2. Download & save the Android ISO as the guest OS
3. Boot the Android ISO guest OS inside that virtual machine
4. Run the desired Android software inside that guest OS

If it's that simple, then that is likely the best way to go.
But if it's that simple - why do so many Android emulators even exist?



Here is what I did with VMware Player

1. Download the Android X86 32-bit ISO file.
2. Configure a new virtual machine in VMware Player
Installer ISO: set to the Android X86 ISO
OS: "Other Linux 3.x kernel" (change; VMware wanted to default to BSD)
2GB RAM
32GB HDD
3. Start the new virtual machine, which then boots from the ISO as a virtual CD drive
4. The ISO asks if I want to
(a) Run Android from the CD without installation
(b) Install Android to the hard disk (virtual hard disk, that is).
If I choose (a) to run from the CD, there is no permanent storage.
Anything I download, any APKs I install, are gone when I next boot from the CD.
5. I choose (b) to install Android on the (virtual) HDD.
6. The ISO asks a few more questions
* Do I want to install GRUB -- yes
* How to format the file system -- ext4
7. The ISO then installs Android on the virtual HDD.
8. The ISO asks permission to reboot the VM.
9. I agree to reboot.
10. I disconnect the virtual CD to ensure that the VM boots
from the virtual HDD and not from the "Live CD" ISO.


FWIW here are a couple of articles about running Android-x86 in VMware.
They are now a few years old and refer to older versions of Android, but
they may be useful.
* https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation...rkstation.html
* http://xmodulo.com/how-to-install-an...re-player.html


Here's what I tried first, but Windows 10 hung when I tried it.

1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (mine was already configured).
a. Find the latest stable version:
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT
(5.1.30)
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/
b. Download the latest stable ISO:
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe
c. Download the latest stable guest additions:
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso



I don't know about VirtualBox, but VMware does not have guest additions for Android.
The VMware guest additions for Linux do not install on Android.


2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB)
https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso

3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried:
Name: Android32b
Type: Other
Version: Other/Unknown
Memory size: 64MB


Your typical Android device today has 2GB or 3GB RAM, so that is what I would use
for memory here. I expect 64MB is not enough for modern versions of Android.

If you are running from "Live CD" (ISO) without installation, I believe it uses
part of this virtual RAM to simulate storage. So you don't want to make this too
small.


Create a virtual hard disk now.
VDI (VirtualBox Disk Image)
Dynamically allocated
Virtual hard disk size: 2.00GB


Your typical Android device today has 16GB or 32GB of storage, so that is what I
would use for HDD size here. 2GB is probably not enough for the Android system.


Start
Select startup disk: android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso (681.00MB)
Start
Selection choice:
Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation == I chose this option


That may be OK for an initial look-see.

The catch with running without installation is that there is no permanent storage.
Anything you download, any APKs you install, are gone when you next run Android
from the Live CD (ISO).


Live CD - VESA mode
Live CD - Debug mode
Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk

The Windows-10 64-bit machine hung.
I had to kill VirtualBox to get my Windows mouse back.



Your virtual machine's RAM setting (64MB) looks way too low. Try 2GB or 3GB.

If you still can't get it working, try one of the preconfigured VM images
from osboxes.org.


Everything else was fine on Windows when I killed VirtualBox.
So, the Android ISO didn't work on the first pass.



--
Kind regards
Ralph
  #18  
Old January 2nd 18, 05:43 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
Joe Scotch
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Default What free Android emulator do YOU use on Windows for running F-Droid APKs?

/nIn news
This is a long post so I'll post separately the list of Android APKs I have
stored on my phone (they're automatically created and stored and archived
to Windows) where I think mainly the photo manipulators and calculators and
sand timers and some of the wifi debuggers and police scanners may be
better than those on Windows (along with New Pipe) - but not much else
offhand.


It might take me a while to go through this list of over 250 installed free apps on my Android phone where I'd have to see which apps are better than the Windows freeware counterparts.
1. Android has great free photo manipulators (easy to use)
2. Android has great calculator widgets
3. Android has great WiFi debuggers (particularly useful on laptops)
4. Android has great ECU scanners (although I use dealer software for that)
5. Android has great sand timers and alarm clocks
6. Android has great police & fire scanners (although web pages work too)

That's about it offhand, but I haven't gone through the list below yet.

Generally I only use the acknowledged best freeware, but I also experiment with dozens of programs every day so some of those in the list might not be the best possible out there.

Nonetheless, here's the list of apps installed on my Android phone which I will look through to see which are better than what is on Windows.

321 Payer-my.bhul.video.player-1303-v1.3.3.apk
3C Toolbox-ccc71.at.free-19232-v1.9.2.3.apk
AdAway-org.adaway-60-v3.2.apk
Adobe Photoshop Sketch-com.adobe.creativeapps.sketch-20200001-v2.0.162.apk
AFWall+--dev.ukanth.ufirewall-15902-v2.9.1.apk
AirDroid-com.sand.airdroid-30203-v4.1.0.4.apk
Alarm Klock-com.angrydoughnuts.android.alarmclock-15-v2.3.apk
All-In-One Toolbox-imoblife.toolbox.full-150155-v7.2.4.apk
All video player-com.sva.mediaplayer.hdvideoplayer-4-v4.0.apk
Allo-com.google.android.apps.fireball-20070018-v8.0.035_RC09 (armeabi-v7a_xhdpi).apk
Android Explorer-com.iamtrk.androidexplorer-1-v1.0.apk
Androsens 2-com.tritop.androsense2-13-v1.93.apk
AndSMB-lysesoft.andsmb-31-v3.4.apk
Angulo-eu.domob.angulo-20000-v2.0.apk
AnySoftKeyboard-com.menny.android.anysoftkeyboard-1726-v1.8.401.apk
App Backup & Restore-mobi.infolife.appbackup-53-v3.2.0.apk
App Backup & Restore-mobi.usage.appbackup-32-v1.3.0.apk
App Launcher-com.applauncher.application-1-v1.0.apk
App Ops Starter-com.schurich.android.tools.appopsstarter-3-v1.1.0.apk
App Permission Watcher-de.struse.apewatch-8-v1.1.apk
Applications Info-com.majeur.applicationsinfo-6-v1.5.apk
Applications Info-com.majeur.applicationsinfo-7-v1.6.apk
Arcai.com's NetCut-com.arcai.netcut-141-v1.4.1.apk
Arity-arity.calculator-27-v1.27.apk
ASTRO File Manager-com.metago.astro-673-v4.6.3.4-play.apk
AT NewPipe-co.at.newpipe-1-v1.0.apk
AT Player-com.atpc-66-v1.066.apk
AtmosphereLogger-org.tamanegi.atmosphere-4-v0.1.3.apk
Auto Recorder-com.aiuspaktyn.spyrecorder-20-v1.2.0.apk
Automatic Call Recorder-com.appstar.callrecorder-79-v4.26.apk
BackCountry Navigator DEMO-com.crittermap.backcountrynavigator-340-v6.7.0.apk
Barcode Scanner-com.google.zxing.client.android-100-v4.7.0.apk
Barcode Scanner-com.google.zxing.client.android-107-v4.7.7.apk
BeautyCam-com.fotoable.selfieplus-75-v1.9.1.apk
Better Open With-com.aboutmycode.betteropenwith-52-v1.4.10.apk
Bluetooth Toggler-com.malcolm.bluetoothtoggler2-115-v1.15.apk
BusyBox Free-stericson.busybox-199-v49.apk
Calculator-com.google.android.calculator-74100312-v7.4.1 (4452929).apk
Call recorder for Android-com.callrecorder.android-25-v2.0.5.apk
Camera-com.simplemobiletools.camera-20-v1.20.apk
Carbon-com.coolapps.carbon-2-v1.0.apk
CCleaner-com.piriform.ccleaner-71411974-v1.19.74.apk
Cell Spy Catcher-com.skibapps.cellspycatcher-23-v2.6.apk
CellTracker-com.example.myandroid-122-v1.4.122.apk
Checkey-info.guardianproject.checkey-102-v0.1.2.apk
Chrome-com.android.chrome-323911102-v63.0.3239.111.apk
CircleLauncher light-de.dbware.circlelauncher.light-87-v3.4.2.apk
Classic Player-classic.hd.video.player-2203-v2.2.3.apk
Clear default app for action-com.onesoftmob.cleardefaults-6-v1.1.apk
Clear Defaults-com.droidzeal.cleardefaults-1-v1.0.apk
Clear List-douzifly.list-21-v1.5.6.apk
CM Browser-com.ksmobile.cb-2102204006-v5.22.04.0006.apk
CoPilot GPS-com.alk.copilot.mapviewer-1725-v10.2.0.155.apk
CoPilot GPS-com.alk.copilot.mapviewer-1927-v10.4.1.446.apk
Cryptography-com.nitramite.cryptography-43-v1.3.3.apk
Deep Art Effects-de.nextsol.deeparteffects.app-31-v1.5.5.apk
Deep Art Effects-de.nextsol.deeparteffects.app-31-v1.5.5.apk
Default App Manager-com.appiator.defaultappmanager-20-v2.4.apk
Desmos-com.desmos.calculator-61-v2.6.5.1.apk
Device Control-org.namelessrom.devicecontrol-163-v0.8.7.3-git-a4ae0d.apk
Device ID-com.evozi.deviceid-8-v1.3.2.apk
Device ID Changer-com.VTechno.androididchanger-9-v1.9.apk
Dew Point-de.hoffmannsgimmickstaupunkt-16-v1.06-16.apk
DiskDigger-com.defianttech.diskdigger-84-v1.0-2017-01-28.apk
Do It Later-com.hnib.smslater-54-v2.1.4.apk
Docs-com.google.android.apps.docs.editors.docs-74820435-v1.7.482.04.35.apk
Dolphin-mobi.mgeek.TunnyBrowser-757-v12.0.2.apk
Easy Backup-com.mdroidapps.easybackup-55-v4.9.7.apk
Easy Voice Recorder-com.coffeebeanventures.easyvoicerecorder-10919-v1.9.1.3.apk
Echo-eu.mrogalski.saidit-13-v1.3.38.apk
Elementary-com.ultramegatech.ey-24-v0.6.1.apk
Endoscope Camera-com.shinetechzhengzhou.wifiendoscope-44-v3.0.apk
ES File Explorer-com.estrongs.android.pop-527-v4.1.2.4.apk
F-Droid-org.fdroid.fdroid-1000010-v1.0.apk
F-Droid-org.fdroid.fdroid-100150-v0.100.1.apk
F-Droid-org.fdroid.fdroid-102350-v0.102.3.apk
Fast Notepad-com.taxaly.noteme.v2-40-v2.0.9.apk
File Manager-com.rhmsoft.fm-20590601-v2.5.9.apk
Find My Device-com.google.android.apps.adm-20000076-v2.1.005.apk
Fing-com.overlook.android.fing-6410-v6.4.1.apk
Fing - Network Tools-com.overlook.android.fing-250-v2.15.apk
Firefox-org.mozilla.firefox-2015432297-v48.0.apk
Firefox-org.mozilla.firefox-2015526481-v57.0.1.apk
Flashlight-com.abitsinc.andr-5-v5.apk
Floating Camera-ar.com.zgroup.floatingcamera-200-v2.0.0.apk
Folder Tag-com.kitasoft.dirtag-18-v1.2.0.apk
Folder Tag CIFS Service-com.kitasoft.dirtag.cifs.service-4-v1.0.3.apk
Folder Tag for CIFS-com.kitasoft.dirtag.cifs-4-v1.0.3.apk
FRITZ!App+AP8-WLAN-de.avm.android.wlanapp-22044-v2.6.3.apk
FRITZ!App+AP8-WLAN-de.avm.android.wlanapp-549-v1.2.1.apk
FTP Server (Free)-be.ppareit.swiftp_free-21200-v2.12.0.apk
FTP Server (Free)-be.ppareit.swiftp_free-21401-v2.14.1.apk
FTP Server (Free)-be.ppareit.swiftp_free-21701-v2.17.1.apk
Get ID-makeinfo.com.getid-1-v1.0.apk
Gmail-com.google.android.gm-59883824-v7.11.26.179049568.release.apk
Google App-com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox-300719283-v6.4.31.16.arm.apk
Google Handwriting Input-com.google.android.apps.handwriting.ime-11602-v1.7.1.apk
Google Now Launcher-com.google.android.launcher-103001-v1.3.large.apk
Google Play services-com.google.android.gms-3225130-v3.2.25 (761454-30).apk
Google Play Store-com.android.vending-80230011-v4.3.11.apk
Google Play Store-com.android.vending-80741200-v7.4.12.L-all 0 PR 144479971.apk
Google Play Store-com.android.vending-80771700-v7.7.17.O-all 0 PR 153033368.apk
Google Text-to-speech Engine-com.google.android.tts-210309110-v3.9.11.apk
Google+--com.google.android.apps.plus-416583673-v8.7.0.132506151.apk
GPS Essentials-com.mictale.gpsessentials-404022-v4.4.22.apk
GPS Status-com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2-162-v7.5.162.apk
GPS Tools-com.VirtualMaze.gpsutils-25-v1.8.0.apk
GPSLogger-com.mendhak.gpslogger-86-v86.apk
Greenify-com.oasisfeng.greenify-306-v3.0 build 5.apk
GSM Signal Monitoring-com.signalmonitoring.gsmsignalmonitoring-650-v4.02.apk
Hacker's Keyboard-org.pocketworkstation.pckeyboard-1039003-v1.39.3.apk
Hourglass-com.alaskalinuxuser.hourglass-6-v1.6.apk
HP Print Service Plugin-com.hp.android.printservice-102-v2.14-2.1.2-12b-16.3.15-102.apk
Ice Box-com.catchingnow.icebox-212-v2.1.1.apk
IceCatMobile-org.gnu.icecat-380800-v38.8.0.apk
InShot-com.camerasideas.instashot-144-v1.421.144.apk
inSSIDer-net.metageek-2-v1.1.62.apk
IP Tools-com.ddm.iptools-173-v7.3.4.apk
Jota Text Editor-jp.sblo.pandora.jota-85-v0.2.35.apk
K-9 Mail-com.fsck.k9-22010-v5.010.apk
KDE Connect-org.kde.kdeconnect_tp-1660-v1.6.6.apk
Kingo ROOT-com.kingoapp.apk-425-v4.2.5.apk
LeanDroid-com.teqtic.leandata-152-v3.3.1.apk
Locus Map-menion.android.locus-544-v3.20.1.apk
Locus Map-menion.android.locus-678-v3.28.1.apk
LogMan LogCat checkup!-com.voss.logman-10-v1.3.3.apk
Magisto-com.magisto-283-v4.15.16032.apk
MapMyHike-com.mapmyhike.android2-17120100-v17.12.1.apk
Marine Compass-net.pierrox.mcompass-10-v1.2.4.apk
Material Tea Timer-org.ligi.materialteatimer-13-v1.3.apk
MediaConverter-com.AndroidA.MediaConverter-15-v0.9.3.apk
MicDroid-com.intervigil.micdroid-36-v0.46.apk
Movie Frame Grabber-your.jun.FrameGrabber_EnglishVer-14-v1.2.3.apk
My GPS Coordinates-com.gpscoordinatesandlocation-21-v1.74.apk
MyPhoneExplorer Client-com.fjsoft.myphoneexplorer.client-46-v1.0.43.apk
MyTrails-com.frogsparks.mytrails-14381-v2.1.1.apk
MyTrails-com.frogsparks.mytrails-8357-v2.0.14.apk
Napply-fr.miximum.napply-2-v1.2.apk
Navigator-com.mapfactor.navigator-31095-v3.1.95.apk
Navigator-com.mapfactor.navigator-780-v2.2.78.apk
Netmonitor-com.parizene.netmonitor-157-v1.2.15.apk
Network Browser-com.ape.apps.networkbrowser-28-v2.1.9.apk
Network Cell Info Lite-com.wilysis.cellinfolite-139-v3.30.apk
Network Cell Info Lite-com.wilysis.cellinfolite-222471-v4.7.1.apk
Network Discovery-info.lamatricexiste.network-43-v0.3.5.apk
Network Scanner-com.unwind.networkmonitor-1-v1.0.apk
NewPipe-org.schabi.newpipe-22-v0.8.8.apk
NewPipe-org.schabi.newpipe-36-v0.9.9.apk
NewPipe-org.schabi.newpipe-42-v0.11.1.apk
Nova Launcher-com.teslacoilsw.launcher-43100-v4.3.1.apk
Open Camera-net.sourceforge.opencamera-38-v1.32.apk
OpenVPN Connect-net.openvpn.openvpn-76-v1.1.17.apk
Opera-com.opera.browser-1904413102-v44.1.2246.123029.apk
Opera Mini-com.opera.mini.native-321122976-v32.0.2254.122976.apk
Orbot-org.torproject.android-15208000-v15.2.0-RC-8-multi.apk
Orfox-info.guardianproject.orfox-4-vFennec-45.5.1esr TorBrowser-6.5-1 Orfox-1.2.1.apk
OsmAnd Contour lines-net.osmand.srtmPlugin.paid-6-v1.0.apk
OsmAnd~-net.osmand.plus-254-v2.5.4.apk
OsmAnd~-net.osmand.plus-282-v2.8.2.apk
OSMTracker for AndroidT-me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker-37-v0.6.11.apk
OSMTracker for AndroidT-me.guillaumin.android.osmtracker-37-v0.6.11.apk
Permission Master-com.droidmate.permaster-2-v1.114.apk
Polaris Navigation GPS-com.discipleskies.android.polarisnavigation-11852-v8.52.apk
Police Scanner-com.berobo.android.scanner-30-v12.4.apk
primitive ftpd-org.primftpd-19-v4.5.apk
primitive ftpd-org.primftpd-30-v5.4.apk
Quick Reboot-com.antaresone.quickreboot-48-v1.4.2.4.apk
RealCalc-uk.co.nickfines.RealCalc-3020301-v2.3.1.apk
RealCalc-uk.co.nickfines.RealCalc-3020301-v2.3.1.apk
RebootManager-com.jc.rebootmanager-16-v2.1.apk
RecMe-com.mobzapp.recme.free-2125-v2.3.3.apk
Redirect-com.tobino.redirectsfree-35-v3.0.1.apk
Rehearsal Assistant-urbanstew.RehearsalAssistant-26-v0.9.apk
Ringdroid-com.ringdroid-20704-v2.7.4.apk
Ringtone Maker-com.herman.ringtone-1600216-v2.1.6.apk
Ringtone Maker-com.meihillman.ringtonemaker-1127-v1.1.27.apk
ROM Manager-com.koushikdutta.rommanager-5537-v5.5.3.7.apk
Root Browser-com.jrummy.root.browserfree-23600-v2.3.6.0.apk
Root Checker Basic-com.joeykrim.rootcheck-147-v6.0.5.apk
Root Verifier-com.abcdjdj.rootverifier-12-v2.0.apk
RootLogger Free-com.stericson.rootlogger.free-10-v1.9.apk
Rotation Lock+-Landscape-org.cmotc.tools.rotationlockpp-11-v3.0.apk
Rotation Manager-com.spydiko.rotationmanager_foss-18-v2.2.110214.apk
Scanner Radio-com.scannerradio-5341-v4.4.1.4.1.apk
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Sensor Readout-de.onyxbits.sensorreadout-8-v2.4.apk
Servicely-com.franco.servicely-1608121741-v3.0.2.apk
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SharesFinder-com.scan.places-38-v1.3.8.apk
ShellShock Scanner - by Zimperium-com.zimperium.zshellshock-4-v1.3.apk
Sideline-com.sideline.phone.number-69-v1.7.apk
Simple Alarm Clock-com.better.alarm-2901-v2.9.01.apk
Sketch-com.sonymobile.sketch-16384004-v7.13.A.0.4.apk
Skype-com.skype.raider-134262260-v8.12.0.14.apk
SkyTube-free.rm.skytube.oss-2-v2.0.apk
SkyTube Extra-free.rm.skytube.extra-3-v2.1 Extra.apk
SMS SCHEDULER-com.biztech.smsscheduler-270-v2.7.0.apk
SMS Scheduler-com.github.yeriomin.smsscheduler-4-v0.4.apk
SMS Scheduler-com.gizmoquip.smsscheduler-48-v1.48.apk
SMS Scheduler-com.lylynx.smsscheduler-10-v1.9.apk
SMS Scheduler-com.mobipixels.sms_scheduler-4-v1.03.apk
Snapseed-com.niksoftware.snapseed-269515-v2.17.0.150426010.apk
Snapseed-com.niksoftware.snapseed-340940-v2.18.0.167817062.apk
Speedtest-org.zwanoo.android.speedtest-16198-v3.2.26.apk
Stagefright Detector-com.lookout.stagefrightdetector-3-v1.1.apk
Stagefright Detector-com.zimperium.stagefrightdetector-10-v5.4.apk
Stopwatch-com.kodarkooperativet.notificationstopwatch-6-v1.4.apk
Stopwatch-com.kodarkooperativet.notificationstopwatch-6-v1.4.apk
SuperSU-eu.chainfire.supersu-279-v2.79.apk
SuperUser-com.kingouser.com-2177-v2.1.7.7.apk
Sweet Camera-com.dailyselfie.newlook.studio-12-v1.4.2.apk
System App Safe Remover-com.jumobile.manager.systemapp-362-v3.6.2019.apk
TalkBack-com.google.android.marvin.talkback-50004003-v5.0.4.apk
Terminal Emulator-jackpal.androidterm-71-v1.0.70.apk
Text Later-com.iamcaptaincode.textLater-21-v2.1.1.apk
Tiny Video Organizer-com.tinyvideoorganizer-6-v1.8.apk
Titanium Backup-com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup-392-v8.0.0.apk
Torchlight-com.secuso.torchlight2-2-v1.1.apk
Total Commander-com.ghisler.android.TotalCommander-160-v2.72.apk
TotalCmd-LAN (Windows shares)-com.ghisler.tcplugins.LAN-53-v2.12.apk
TotalCmd-Wifi Transfer-com.ghisler.tcplugins.wifitransfer-26-v2.02.apk
Tune Me-com.tuneme.tuneme-16002-v2.2.17.apk
TWRP Manager-com.jmz.soft.twrpmanager-109-v9.4.apk
Undeleter-fahrbot.apps.undelete-40003017-v4.0.3.17.B168.apk
UniClip-com.piyushagade.uniclip-20-v2.6.apk
USBCamera2.0-com.serenegiant.usbcameratest4-6-v2.0.6.apk
Video Editor-com.movisoftnew.videoeditor-27-v3.4.apk
Video Editor-com.video.editorandroid-11-v11.apk
Video Player-video.music.playerlite-5-v1.0.5.apk
video player-video.player.audio.player.music-5-v2.0.0.apk
Video Player Perfect-com.tr.videoplayer3-41030328-v1.2.2.apk
VidTrim-com.goseet.VidTrim-75-v2.5.7.apk
Visual Voicemail-com.tmobile.vvm.application-53280-v5.15.70.53280.apk
VLC-org.videolan.vlc-1090004-v1.9.0.apk
VLC-org.videolan.vlc-12051304-v2.5.13.apk
VX ConnectBot-sk.vx.connectbot-29-v1.7.1-29.apk
Wanam Xposed-ma.wanam.xposed-401-v4.0.1.apk
Waypoint Free-com.thedroiddev.waypoint-34-v6.2.apk
Waze-com.waze-1021284-v4.19.0.3.apk
WeVideo-com.wevideo.mobile.android-141-v6.7.015.apk
WhatsApp-com.whatsapp-452100-v2.17.427.apk
Wi-Fi Networks-app.rsq.com.testq-4-v1.4.apk
Wifi Analyser-com.keuwl.wifi-5-v1.04.apk
Wifi Analyzer-com.farproc.wifi.analyzer-108-v3.9.apk
Wifi Analyzer-com.farproc.wifi.analyzer-133-v3.10.6-L.apk
WiFi Analyzer-com.vrem.wifianalyzer-26-v1.7.4.apk
Wifi Analyzer-cz.webprovider.wifianalyzer-370-v3.70.apk
Wifi Analyzer-cz.webprovider.wifianalyzer-402-v4.02.apk
WiFi Automatic-de.j4velin.wifiAutoOff-169-v1.6.9.apk
Wifi Connecter Library-com.farproc.wifi.connecter-16-v2.0.3.apk
WIFI Connection-com.wificonnection.booster92-1-v1.39.apk
WiFi Connection Fixer-co.in.zextr.wcf-2-v1.0 - FREE.apk
WiFi Connection Manager-com.roamingsoft.manager-145-v1.6.3.2.apk
WiFi Coverage Mapper-pl.ntek.wcm-8-v1.4.apk
Wifi Explorer-com.nutsaboutnets.wifiexplorer-6113-v1.01.6113.apk
Wifi Explorer-com.rtsw.easywifiexplorer-32-v1.3.3.apk
WiFi File Transfer-com.mbapp.ftpserver-21-v4.1.apk
WiFi File Transfer-com.smarterdroid.wififiletransfer-33-v1.0.9.apk
Wifi Fixer-com.unbox.project.wififixer-2-v1.1.apk
WiFi Manager-org.kman.WifiManager-33526-v3.6.0.5.apk
Wifi Toggler-com.malcolm.wifitoggler-124-v1.24.apk
WifiFixer-de.resolution.wififixer-17040701-v20170407-01.apk
WiGLE WiFi Wardriving FOSS-net.wigle.wigleandroid-210-v2.10.apk
WLANScanner-org.bitbatzen.wlanscanner-1-v1.0.1.apk
WPS Connect-com.ngb.wpsconnect-10-v1.3.4.apk
Wps Wpa Tester-com.tester.wpswpatester-73-v3.4.3.apk
XPlayer-video.player.videoplayer-122-v1.2.2.apk
Xposed Installer-de.robv.android.xposed.installer-33-v2.7 experimental1.apk
Xposed Modules-com.ashens.xposedmodules-30-v1.0.13.apk
XPrivacy-biz.bokhorst.xprivacy-481-v3.6.19.apk

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I find the photo-manipulation software on Android incredibly easy to use
compared to, say, The GIMP or Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, etc.


Apples and oranges. There's no way any Android phone GUI can handle
the breadth of surgical photo manipulation tasks that Photoshop is
designed to handle.
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Old January 3rd 18, 08:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn news wrote:

I find the photo-manipulation software on Android incredibly easy to use
compared to, say, The GIMP or Photoshop or Paint Shop Pro, etc.


Apples and oranges. There's no way any Android phone GUI can handle
the breadth of surgical photo manipulation tasks that Photoshop is
designed to handle.


I think that's the whole point.

Take my Hourglass APK as an example:
Hourglass-com.alaskalinuxuser.hourglass-6-v1.6.apk

For example, the Android "hourglass" app is fantastically simple.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.alaskalinuxuser.hourglass

Does something that powerfully simple app does exist for Windows?

The power is in the UI.
1. You bring up the app
2. You slide the slider for the time
3. And that's it.

Does something that simple exist on Windows for an hourglass timer?

Same with the no-longer-free "Paper Artist" tool that I use on Android:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dama.paperartistgp

It's so ridiculously simple that I would love to see an equivalently simple
and yet powerful Windows clone.

1. You bring up the photo in the app
2. You press a button which manipulates it
3. And the power is you "swish" your finger over it to modify beautifully

Does something that powerfully simple even exist on Windows?

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Old January 3rd 18, 08:14 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn news wrote:

I have tried Bluestack a few years ago. It worked more or less OK. But
it was running something in the background from time to time using 25%
CPU even when no APK was running. Did not like that, so I removed it.


Thanks for helping out on the on-topic question at hand whose answers will
benefit all Windows users if they also want to have Android apps.

It looks like the top three Android emulation choices might be.

1. First just try to get an Android VM working
2. If that fails, try Nox or BlueStack
3. If those fail (they probably won't) - then try the rest in turn.

Thanks for the advice because the most expensive part of freeware is
testing all of them just to find the ones that work best.
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Old January 3rd 18, 11:20 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn , Ralph Fox
wrote:

Here is what I did with VMware Player
FWIW here are a couple of articles about running Android-x86 in VMware.
They are now a few years old and refer to older versions of Android, but
they may be useful.
* https://blogs.vmware.com/workstation...rkstation.html
* http://xmodulo.com/how-to-install-an...re-player.html


Thanks for that help on your VMWare settings.
They seem echoed in the tutorials below that I will try next.

How to install Android inside of VirtualBox in Windows
https://www.howtogeek.com/164570/HOW...IN-VIRTUALBOX/

This is an Android 5.0 lollipop specific tutorial
http://www.fixedbyvonnie.com/2015/03...albox-windows/

This is an Android 6.0 marshmallow specific tutorial
http://www.tactig.com/install-androi...virtualbox-pc/

This is an Android 7.0 nougat specific tutorial
http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/
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Old January 4th 18, 12:20 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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In alt.comp.os.windows-10 Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn news wrote:


I have tried Bluestack a few years ago. It worked more or less OK. But
it was running something in the background from time to time using 25%
CPU even when no APK was running. Did not like that, so I removed it.


Thanks for helping out on the on-topic question at hand whose answers will
benefit all Windows users if they also want to have Android apps.


It looks like the top three Android emulation choices might be.


1. First just try to get an Android VM working
2. If that fails, try Nox or BlueStack
3. If those fail (they probably won't) - then try the rest in turn.


Thanks for the advice because the most expensive part of freeware is
testing all of them just to find the ones that work best.


In 2016, I did this too. I don't remember using Nox. I couldn't get
Android VM to work well in both VirtualBox and VMware Workstation.
BlueStack was the best one that worked for me.
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Old January 4th 18, 12:23 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn news
Thanks for that help on your VMWare settings.
They seem echoed in the tutorials below that I will try next.


I got a *lot* further with your help.

Now Android runs, but the mouse doesn't work yet inside of Android on
Windows. But other than that - it's looking good.

I followed this tutorial with the exceptions noted below:
http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/

To add to our combined tribal knowledge, here is my log file.
1. Download, install & configure VirtualBox (tutorial separately found)
a. Find the latest stable version:
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...EST-STABLE.TXT
(5.1.30)
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/5.1.30/
b. Download the latest stable ISO:
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...118389-Win.exe
c. Download the latest stable guest additions:
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtu...ons_5.1.30.iso
2. Download the latest Android X86 32-bit ISO file (usually less than 1GB)
https://www.fosshub.com/Android-x86....86-7.1-rc2.iso
3. Setting up the VirtualBox VM may be tricky - here's what I tried:
Name: Android-7-nougat-32b
Type: Linux
Version: Other Linux (32-bit)
Next
4. Memory size: 2048MB
Next
5. Create a virtual hard disk now.
Create
6. VDI(VirtualBox Disk Image)
Next
7. Dynamically allocated
Next
8. Virtual hard disk size: 8.00GB
Note: This has to be big enough to hold the Android system,
plus your apps and your app data.
Create
9. Change the number of CPUs from 1 to 2 CPUs:
Right click on "Android-7-nougat-32b" and select "Settings"
System Processor tab 2 CPU
OK
10. Change the display memory from 16MB to 128MB.
Right click on "Android-7-nougat-32b" and select "Settings"
Display Screen tab 128MB
OK
11. Point to the Android vdi file you created:
Right click on "Android-7-nougat-32b" and select "Settings"
Storage Tree Controller: IDE - (aka remove)
Storage Tree + Add IDE Controller Choose existing disk.
This PC Local Disk (C Users username VirtualBox VMs
Android-7-nougat-32b Android-7-nougat-32b.vdi
Open
12. Remove the CD
Click on the "+CD" icon next to "Controller:IDE" in the Storage Tree
Select "Leave Empty" when it asks "would you like to choose a virtual
optical disk to put in the drive or leave it empty for now?)
13. Select the "Empty" CD icon inside of "Storage Tree"
Change the Attributes from "IDE Primary Sloave to "IDE Secondary Master"
and then click on the CD icon to "Choose Virtual Optical Disk File..."
and navigate to your Android iso file "android-x86-7.1-rc2.iso"
Open
OK
14. Select the "Android-7-nougat-32b" and press the green-arrow "Start" button.
15. Choose the "Installation" option when you see a screen saying:
Selection choice:
Live CD - Run Android-X86 without installation
Live CD - VESA mode
Live CD - Debug mode
Installation - Install Android-X86 to harddisk --- Choose this option!
16. Choose to "Create/Modify partitions" when you see the screen:
Choose Partition
Please select a partition to install Android-x86:
Create/Modify partitions --- Choose this option!
OK
17. Do you want to use GPT?
No Enter
18. Create new partition from free space.
New Enter
Primary Enter
Size (in MB): 8587.19 Enter
Bootable Enter
Check the flags say it's bootable.
Name=sda1, Flags=Boot Part, Type=Primary, FS Type=Linux, Size(MB)=8587.20
Write Enter
yes Enter
quit Enter
19. Now you're back to the "Choose Partition" screen.
Select the "sda1 unknown VBOX HARDDISK" partition and press Enter
That pops up a "Choose filesystem" box asking:
Please select a filesystem to format sda1
Do not format
ext4 --- select this
ntfs
fat32
Press Enter and then "Yes" to format.
20. When you are asked want to install Grub Bootloader,
select YES and hit enter from your keyboard.
21. For system directory as read-write select Yes and hit enter
22. I didn't need this step...
Then go to the Devices menu and select "Optical Drives" and
then "Choose disk image..." and then "Remove disk from virtual drive".
Force Unmount
23. Then press "Reboot" when you see the "Congratulations" menu:
Congratulations!
Android-x86 is installed successfully
Run Android-x86
Reboot --- I selected this
http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/

At this point, I get a blue Android setup screen asking me to choose the
language, but the Windows mouse doesn't yet put a cursor inside the Android
window except for the menus on the VM window.

So that's all I need to debug now.
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Old January 4th 18, 03:20 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn news
At this point, I get a blue Android setup screen asking me to choose the
language, but the Windows mouse doesn't yet put a cursor inside the Android
window except for the menus on the VM window.

So that's all I need to debug now.


The mouse is strange.

And, for some reason, the Guest Additions ISO won't work either.
C:\Program Files\Oracle\VirtualBox\VBoxGuestAdditions.iso

But Android is up, a Google Play account was created, and I ran Android
software on Windows following these tutorials for installing Android 7
Nougat on Windows
http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...-nougat-on-pc/
http://www.wikigain.com/install-andr...on-virtualbox/

Using those articles, I now have Android 7.1 running inside of Windows.
http://i.cubeupload.com/hb3lIb.jpg

I've used Google Play to install Android software in the virtual machine,
and it seems to work.
http://i.cubeupload.com/LhQbwD.jpg

The mouse is quirky, and I can't get the Guest Additions ISO to work but so
far those are the only glitches.
http://i.cubeupload.com/pXkXrr.png
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Old January 4th 18, 03:53 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn , Ant
wrote:

In 2016, I did this too. I don't remember using Nox. I couldn't get
Android VM to work well in both VirtualBox and VMware Workstation.
BlueStack was the best one that worked for me.


At the moment, I have Android 7.1 Nougat running inside of Windows using
VirtualBox (which was already installed and running Linux & Windows).

Android isn't as nicely integrated into VirtualBox as is Linux though, so
without a tutorial, you'll be wasting too much time setting it up.

Even with a tutorial, they skip the steps I already did to set up
VirtualBox and they skip the steps to integrate the mouse, screenshots, and
clipboard.

For example, the guest additions iso won't load.
http://i.cubeupload.com/7nCcyp.jpg
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Joe Scotch wrote:

321 Payer-my.bhul.video.player-1303-v1.3.3.apk

Adware
Windows: VideoLAN VLC (adfree)
3C Toolbox-ccc71.at.free-19232-v1.9.2.3.apk

Adware, superfluous on Windows
AdAway-org.adaway-60-v3.2.apk

Adware
Windows: uBlock Origin, AdBlock Plus for web browser, superfluous in
other Windows software
Adobe Photoshop Sketch-com.adobe.creativeapps.sketch-20200001-v2.0.162.apk

Windows: Krita, MyPaint ... lots of choices.
AFWall+--dev.ukanth.ufirewall-15902-v2.9.1.apk

Oh puh-leaze, you already know there are robust Windows firewalls.
AirDroid-com.sand.airdroid-30203-v4.1.0.4.apk

Windows: Brings phone screen to Windows. Not applicable on Windows.
Alarm Klock-com.angrydoughnuts.android.alarmclock-15-v2.3.apk

Windows: https://www.google.com/search?q=wind...clock+freeware
(I'll let you research what features you actually use in Alarm Klock
to have in a Windows program).
All-In-One Toolbox-imoblife.toolbox.full-150155-v7.2.4.apk

Adware
Windows: TONS of these all-in-one programs, typically with weak
components (better to get single-purpose more robust tools).
All video player-com.sva.mediaplayer.hdvideoplayer-4-v4.0.apk

Not found at Google Play Store. How many video players do you need?
Windows: VideoLAN, MPC-HC, and lots of other choices.
Allo-com.google.android.apps.fireball-20070018-v8.0.035_RC09 (armeabi-v7a_xhdpi).apk

Oh, yes, there are no Windows chat apps, uh huh.
Android Explorer-com.iamtrk.androidexplorer-1-v1.0.apk

Windows: Use Windows/File Explorer or many alternatives.
Androsens 2-com.tritop.androsense2-13-v1.93.apk

Not applicable to a PC.
AndSMB-lysesoft.andsmb-31-v3.4.apk

Windows: Don't need a Samba client on Windows. Need one on Linux (and
Android is a Linux variant).
Angulo-eu.domob.angulo-20000-v2.0.apk

Not found on Google Play Store.
AnySoftKeyboard-com.menny.android.anysoftkeyboard-1726-v1.8.401.apk

PCs have real keyboards, not onscreen touchpads.

I didn't bother to analyze the rest of your very long list as it is
evident you have not inspected those Android apps to see if there are
Windows equivalents or even a need on a PC for Android functions related
to hardware features of THAT platform (smartphones).
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Old January 4th 18, 06:13 AM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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In alt.windows7.general Joe Scotch wrote:
/nIn , Ant
wrote:


In 2016, I did this too. I don't remember using Nox. I couldn't get
Android VM to work well in both VirtualBox and VMware Workstation.
BlueStack was the best one that worked for me.


At the moment, I have Android 7.1 Nougat running inside of Windows using
VirtualBox (which was already installed and running Linux & Windows).


Android isn't as nicely integrated into VirtualBox as is Linux though, so
without a tutorial, you'll be wasting too much time setting it up.


Even with a tutorial, they skip the steps I already did to set up
VirtualBox and they skip the steps to integrate the mouse, screenshots, and
clipboard.


For example, the guest additions iso won't load.
http://i.cubeupload.com/7nCcyp.jpg


Yep, it is not easy. It looks like it is still not easy. BlueStack is
still the best to me.

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Old January 4th 18, 12:09 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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On 01/01/18 20:11, Joe Scotch wrote:
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid
APKs?

In another thread, we found that nobody has ported a useful Android
open-source tool to Windows, where Andy Burns
suggested that Android emulation on Windows might work.
Is there an ad-free YouTube clone for Windows like NewPipe is for Android?
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...re/fLmXv99riaY

As many of us are ancient octogenarians, we've already tried almost every
emulator that ever existed by now - so - I simply ask one question here of
the people who *ALREADY* use Android emulation on Windows.

If you don't already use Android emulation, you probably won't be able to
answer the question I don't think.

However ...
If you do use Android emulation on Windows, what free emulator do you
recommend for running an F-Droid open-source tool such as New Pipe is?
https://f-droid.org/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/

(I will post the results of a RTFM in a followup but the question is not
what free emulators "exist" nor which are in the "top 10" lists - but which
free emulator *you* use that you like - and why).

The topic is:
What free Android emulator do *YOU* use on Windows for running F-Droid
APKs?



Your better off installing it. That's if you have a laptop.

Install is as if you where planing on creating a dual boot system.

I can tell you from experience. On older laptops it makes windows look
and run like ****.

on how to install it youtube is your freind.
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Old January 4th 18, 03:31 PM posted to alt.windows7.general,alt.comp.os.windows-10,alt.comp.freeware
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/nIn , VanguardLH wrote:

I didn't bother to analyze the rest of your very long list as it is
evident you have not inspected those Android apps to see if there are
Windows equivalents or even a need on a PC for Android functions related
to hardware features of THAT platform (smartphones).


It would take too long to go through that list.

I went through the installed apps and already characterized that the main
things that are on Android but not on Windows on my phone are
a. Simple sand timer style quick 10-minute timer apps
b. Simple photo manipulation where you swish your finger over the photo
c. Powerful Wi-Fi signal strength debugging tools (better than inSSIDer)

All in all, I would agree now that I've done the same kind of survey you've
done, that the software on Android doesn't have a lot over the software on
Windows.

The only two that I can think of that I want to port are the sand timers
and the New Pipe YouTube Red clone.

Maybe a few calculators - but that's about it.
 




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