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Old January 10th 18, 06:11 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.
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Old January 10th 18, 06:43 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:11:35 +0000, Peter Percival
wrote:

How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


That info is all over the net.
Try a search.


KenW
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Old January 10th 18, 08:26 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Peter Percival wrote:
How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


The conventional wisdom is to use GPEDIT and
there are various policies in there (for Pro+).
For example, you can delay updates, by switching
from CB stream to CBB stream. I think the GPEDIT
policy where you set Windows Update with a number
between 0..4, that doesn't work any more.

*******

But I like the approach someone uses here.

https://superuser.com/questions/1058...-in-windows-10

Delete wuaueng.dll, which is the wuauserv service

To do that, you can boot the rescue CD to its Command
Prompt, and mess around with the file there.

Initially, a named file is deposited in WinSXS. That's the
"servicing directory". Copies of all sorts of revisions
of files sit in there. The files have very long names.

The file you find in System32 is "hard linked". That
means there are two file pointers, but only one set
of data clusters. A particular file in WinSXS is
hard linked into System32, as the wuaueng.dll file.

If you delete wuaueng.dll, the file isn't actually
deleted. The copy in WinSXS (goes by an entirely different
name) lives on. So in fact "moving the file to another volume",
is complicated by the fact that the file is actually two-headed.
Similarly, you don't just "copy it back", as for the
Servicing Stack to work properly, it has to be hard linked
to its mate in WinSXS.

You might be able to run "hashdeep" and generate checksums
for all the files. And then go through the WinSXS results,
to find a checksum that matches the wuaueng.dll you want to
remove. You don't need to remove the WinSXS entry, merely
make a note in your notes file as to "which one was
hard linked" in the OS folder. To put it back properly,
you'd hard link it in, plus you'd restore the permissions
(most likely owned by TrustedInstaller).

Once wuaueng.dll is missing, the service cannot start.

Windows Update consists of two parts. WUAUSERV is the
basic wheel spinning thing that works out what update
is missing. BITS is used for download services, and BITS
can open multiple connections, start downloads on multiple
files and so on. The second part is Update Orchestrator,
an Enterprise tool for waking up WUAUSERV. In the desktop
version when you boot, you'll see a "flash" of a Command
Prompt window, which disappears almost right away. That's
actually some USOSVC activity.

The update orchestrator USOSVC, maintains a number
of Scheduler activities. In theory, a user could
disable WUAUSERV some how, and USOSVC would have
the ability to wake it up again. They're the "tag team"
of updates.

However, if you delete wuaueng.dll which is the
code behind WUAUSERV, USOSVC should not be able
to do anything to put it back. Microsoft has all the
tools it needs, to "automate" repair of the OS, just
to annoy users. But so far, they haven't stooped
to doing that. The files in System32 should have
WFP (Windows File Protection), but if you boot the
computer using another OS, WFP won't be running, and
then you could delete wuauserv.dll.

App Store stuff and Tiles, are another matter. They
don't seem to depend on Windows Update. And I've had
100MB of downloads for the Tiles, without any obvious
log of the activity visible later. Removing wuaueng.dll
is unlikely to affect the automation on the App Store.
However, crushing BITS (qmgr.dll) would be a start in that
direction.

Paul
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Old January 10th 18, 09:21 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

On 11/1/2018 02:11, Peter Percival wrote:
How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


First thing to try: just stop and disable WIndow$ Update Service.

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Old January 10th 18, 09:49 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/01/2018 18:11, Peter Percival wrote:
How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


Use Linux!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nobody gets Microsoft Fixes,
updates etc

Windows is for the intelligent.

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Old January 10th 18, 09:50 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 10/01/2018 18:43, KenW wrote:
That info is all over the net.
Try a search.



What made you think he is intelligent enough to search for himself?




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Old January 10th 18, 10:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On 1/10/2018 10:11 AM, Peter Percival wrote:
How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


This seems to go a long way in the right direction and it's trivial to
implement:

https://www.askvg.com/windows-10-tip...-installation/
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Old January 11th 18, 03:42 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

Peter Percival wrote in news35l0o$5os$1
@news.albasani.net:

How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


Short of never getting on the internet, you can't. You can however set
your system so that it won't accept updates until the business branch is
released, which has let us unpaid beta testers find all the problems for
six months first.
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Old January 11th 18, 04:03 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

On 11/01/2018 03:42, Tim wrote:
Short of never getting on the internet, you can't.


How the hell did you arrive at this conclusion? We know you are the most
idiot person around but I never expected such rubbish even from you.




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Old January 11th 18, 07:31 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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It's Idiotic Good Guy not idiot


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"Good Guy" wrote in message news On 11/01/2018 03:42, Tim wrote:

Short of never getting on the internet, you can't.
How the hell did you arrive at this conclusion? We know you are the most idiot person around but I never expected such rubbish even from you.






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Old January 11th 18, 02:20 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:11:35 +0000, Peter Percival
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How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


Take a look at https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
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Old January 11th 18, 05:08 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Good Guy dumped this pile of ****
via news

What made you think he is intelligent enough to search for himself?

Dumbass' HTML snipped


BITCHSLAP!

Apparently you're too st00pid to post without HTML, you idiot.

BACKHANDED BITCHSLAP!

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Old January 12th 18, 04:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Peter Percival
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

Good Guy wrote:
On 10/01/2018 18:43, KenW wrote:
That info is all over the net.
Try a search.



What made you think he is intelligent enough to search for himself?


I would imagine that the information is available on Usenet and in other
places too. Why deprecate the first? And especially, why should
someone who uses the first deprecate it?

Also, a reasonable response to "That info is all over the net" would be
"Usenet is part of 'the net'".

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Old January 12th 18, 04:57 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:11:35 +0000, Peter Percival
wrote in
How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


Take a look at https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10

Thank you.

And thank you everyone else for your replies too.

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Old January 12th 18, 08:55 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default Stop Microsoft down loading fixes, updates, etc?

CRNG wrote:
On Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:11:35 +0000, Peter Percival
wrote in
How can I stop Microsoft downloading fixes, updates, etc? Short of
disconnecting it from the Internet, that is.


Take a look at https://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10


It doesn't work.



 




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