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Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users ...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past.
Absolutely no response, other than a few snide remarks and
insults. They don't want to hear from we Windows users because
they are convinced that they (a) know better than us, and (b) are
better than us. It's too bad, but that's been my experience. I
would never bother suggesting anything else to them, since I know
they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I'm a computer user. I use Windows for some things, Linux for others.
Right now I'm using XP because I'm waiting on a new computer to be
delivered to replace the Ubuntu computer because its motherboard went
south and they don't make those kind much anymore and I really want to
see what Ubuntu 64 bit can do anyway.

--
Alias

Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I think that's changing now that Linux has come out of the geek closet
so to speak. Picking sides is silly when one can use both and get the
best of both worlds. Some of the trolls here and on the Linux groups
seem to think like Bush, you're either "with 'em or 'gainst 'em".

--
Alias

Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing
Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power
down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the
presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore
for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be
complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or
ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I'm a computer user. I use Windows for some things, Linux for others.
Right now I'm using XP because I'm waiting on a new computer to be
delivered to replace the Ubuntu computer because its motherboard went
south and they don't make those kind much anymore and I really want to
see what Ubuntu 64 bit can do anyway.



I'll try Ubuntu again. I may give the latest version that's coming
out a whirl. But my experience in the past has made me a bit
jundiced about Linux. I want it to succeed, and I want to use it,
but so far it just isn't as sensible a choice for me as Windows.

-Al-

Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing
Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power
down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the
presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore
for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be
complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or
ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I think that's changing now that Linux has come out of the geek closet
so to speak. Picking sides is silly when one can use both and get the
best of both worlds. Some of the trolls here and on the Linux groups
seem to think like Bush, you're either "with 'em or 'gainst 'em".



Ubuntu is a great distro. They have the right idea -- to make
Linux work for the great mass of people who would be happy to
switch away from Microsoft if they could do so. I'm pulling for
them to succeed.

-Al-

Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record
and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing
Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard
drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub,
power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power
down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the
presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so
much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore
for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to
what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be
complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or
ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my
boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I'm a computer user. I use Windows for some things, Linux for others.
Right now I'm using XP because I'm waiting on a new computer to be
delivered to replace the Ubuntu computer because its motherboard went
south and they don't make those kind much anymore and I really want to
see what Ubuntu 64 bit can do anyway.



I'll try Ubuntu again. I may give the latest version that's coming out a
whirl. But my experience in the past has made me a bit jundiced about
Linux. I want it to succeed, and I want to use it, but so far it just
isn't as sensible a choice for me as Windows.

-Al-

It takes some getting used to but the more you use it, the less you find
yourself using Windows. I'm jonesing right now because I don't have an
Ubuntu install :-)

--
Alias

On 4/16/2010 12:15 PM, Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing
Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power
down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the
presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore
for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be
complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or
ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I'm a computer user. I use Windows for some things, Linux for others.
Right now I'm using XP because I'm waiting on a new computer to be
delivered to replace the Ubuntu computer because its motherboard went
south and they don't make those kind much anymore and I really want to
see what Ubuntu 64 bit can do anyway.

hehehe...so YOU DON'T HAVE A LEGIT COPY OF Windows 7 huh?
Hahahahah...caught you in another one of your many, daily lies!...LOL!

On 4/16/2010 12:18 PM, Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Alias wrote:
Al Smith wrote:
Amelia wrote:
On 4/5/2010 1:23 PM, Mocassin joe wrote:

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA and WGA raising their ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

Also don't forget you:
'Can't' get online (what a pain)
And once you install Linux it overwrites your master boot record and
you
'can't' get it off and Windows back on without a lot more than
average
computer knowhow.
Never again!


That's the single biggest drawback of Linux for new potential users
...
it messes up your boot, so that there is no simple, one-click way to
restore Windows. If Linux had a reliable one-click restore for
Windows,
it would be much more popular to try out.

-Al-

Had you disconnected your Windows hard drive prior to installing
Ubuntu
and have Windows on one SATA drive and Ubuntu on another, you can
choose
between the two by hitting an F key at boot to select which hard drive
to boot to with no need for Grub. When an update comes for Grub, power
down and disconnect the Windows drive, power up and upgrade, power
down
again and reconnect the Windows drive to make sure the Grub update
doesn't mess with your Windows' hard drive. Simple. It does take a
little keyboard and hardware action (if you have to add another hard
drive) to set it up but Windows will not be affected by the
presence of
Ubuntu.



Interesting tip. I've not heard of that before. But it would be so much
simpler if, when we install Linux, it came with a one-button restore
for
the Windows boot routine, so that the boot-up would be set back to what
it was before Linux was installed. I admit, there could be
complications
-- if the drives were changed, or Windows upgraded, or whatever, after
the Linux install, but for many people it would remove the trauma of
testing out a full install of Linux. Having installed Linux eight or
ten
times on various systems, I can tell you that the one thing I hated
about it was getting out my Windows rescue floppy and resetting my boot
sector so that Windows would be recognized again, after (for various
reasons) Linux failed.

-Al-

I agree, it would be nice to have a simple way to restore Windows and
I've emailed Canonical about it. I suggest you do the same as the more
people who suggest it, the better.



I've tried writing to the Linux folks before in the past. Absolutely no
response, other than a few snide remarks and insults. They don't want to
hear from we Windows users because they are convinced that they (a) know
better than us, and (b) are better than us. It's too bad, but that's
been my experience. I would never bother suggesting anything else to
them, since I know they would ignore my suggestion.

-Al-

I think that's changing now that Linux has come out of the geek closet
so to speak. Picking sides is silly when one can use both and get the
best of both worlds. Some of the trolls here and on the Linux groups
seem to think like Bush, you're either "with 'em or 'gainst 'em".

...."the best of both worlds..."? What a stupid statement that is.
Windows 7 will do everything!