Only 19 More Days to Go!

On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be released,
a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so that Ubuntu
will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window. Get it at
http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

What can be done with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,
DRM,
Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

--
Alias

Alias wrote:
On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be
released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so
that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window.
Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

What can be done with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the faffing
about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even work)!
What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,
DRM,

Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed if all
the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because there is no
profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU* want *YOUR* work
stolen? I really doubt you would do that - presuming you actually do
*WORK*!

Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks? If you
do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find that whilst
attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have been successfully
attacked and machines infected - and that's why anti-virus, firewalls and
malware applications are written for it!!

Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives) is
immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

Now which are you? *eg*

Unbeliever wrote:
Alias wrote:
On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be
released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so
that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window.
Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

What can be done with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the faffing
about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even work)!

I have no problems with any of my peripherals.

What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,
DRM,

Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed if all
the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because there is no
profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU* want *YOUR* work
stolen? I really doubt you would do that - presuming you actually do
*WORK*!

Someone asked Mick Jagger why he was on tour after his divorce from
Bianca and he said, "I'm broke and need to make some money". When asked
about his records, he replied, "no one but the record companies make
money on that". Cry me a ****ing river but don't DRM my computer.


Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?

Considering I didn't say that.

If you
do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find that whilst
attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have been successfully
attacked and machines infected - and that's why anti-virus, firewalls and
malware applications are written for it!!

Name one malware in the wild currently attacking Linux boxes and I'll
name hundreds, if not thousands, of malware for Windows.


Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives) is
immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

Now which are you? *eg*



Never said it is infallible but compared to Windows it's bullet proof
which is the point, dumb ass.

--
Alias

On 4/10/2010 3:51 PM, Alias, the lying pimp wrote:

--deleted the garbage from alias, the pimp as a public service--
Hey pimp...how does it feel to have your ass kicked in here by everyone,
huh?
Oops! What POS you are.

Unbeliever wrote:
Alias wrote:
On April 29th, the Long Term Support version of Ubuntu will be
released, a release that Mark Shuttleworth devoted all his time to so
that Ubuntu will finally shoot Windows out of the proverbial window.
Get it at http://www.ubuntu.com/ You'll be glad you did.

What can be done with Ubuntu:

Email
Surf the web
Burn CDs.
Rip CDs.
Listen to music.
Watch vidoes/DVDs.
Scan and print.
Spreadsheets.
Presentations
Newsgroups.
HTML editing.
Games like Chess, Tetris, all kinds of solitaire, etc.
Make videos.
Download photos from a camera and organize them.
Translations.
Use a dictionary
Learn how to touch type.
Edit images.
Send and receive a fax.
Take screenshots.
Create .PDF files.
Create and use a data base.
Instant messaging with over 10 different programs in one including
Windows Live Messenger.
IRC.
Bluetooth.

and much more!

So what's new? Windows can do all that - and more - without all the faffing
about trying to get a peripheral to work properly (or even work)!
What you can't do with Ubuntu:

Worry about:
WPA, WGA and WAT raising their false positive ugly heads,
DRM,

Somebody need paying for all the work - and why would DRM be needed if all
the composers and artists stopped doing 'their thing' because there is no
profit in it - would *YOU* work for nothing, would *YOU* want *YOUR* work
stolen? I really doubt you would do that - presuming you actually do
*WORK*!

Viruses,
Root kits,
Spyware,
and
Malware.

And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks? If you
do, then come of that cloud and Google a bit - and you will find that whilst
attacks are not that common, Linfux (and Apple) have been successfully
attacked and machines infected - and that's why anti-virus, firewalls and
malware applications are written for it!!

Rare, and if your Linux is properly locked down, one has to not only
give permission, but type in their password as well for higher level
processes, so sure if on the very rare occasion one is stupid enough to
give higher level permission having not started the process
himself/herself, they jolly well deserve what they get really. Sorry but
with computing and networking, I have NO compassion for stupidity.
Either get educated or suffer the consequences. I work very hard to
educate my clients and except for a few that ignore what they have been
taught, I am gaining ground with them. Bummer, as constant infected
Winders machines is a cash cow really. Those that I have convinced to
dual boot with Linux I hardly hear from... My bad I guess, lost revenue
there! LOL ..BUT, happier clients, and more referrals.

Anti virus for Linux is mostly so you don't pass along infected emails
that came in from infected Winders machines etc. forwarded to Winders
machines. I have run the Linux ClamAV from time to time out of curiosity
mostly, over the past few years and nope nothing on my machine in
general, however it has caught crap sent to me in emails from infected
Winders machines that my ISP's AV didn't catch. Hmmm Imagine that.. LOL

Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives) is
immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

Only "fools" and "idiots" think they are safe with Winders at all, and
think Linux isn't better, SAFER, (NOT infallible, nothing is), about
security than Winders. Anyone who claims they never get hit with a
Winders Virus is most likely a liar. As one that is savvy, and one who
practices very safe hex, I have caught them while in Winders going to
sites I very well knew were ok before, but got hacked and the
virus/malware STILL installed bypassing both Winders and AV. As stated
by another person, name ONE, ONE, threat that is going wild amongst
personal computer Linux boxes. Well? I have just recently had to clean 4
client's computers running Winders and with GOOD updated AV that caught
"nasties" from simply visiting trusted sites that had been hacked. BAM!
No warning at all and they were infected. I visited the same sites while
booted to Linux, and well, here I am MY box is STILL "clean." LOL Get
real eh?

I beta tested then RC tested Win7, then pre-ordered and eventually
installed it as, yep, a dual boot with Linux. (And Vista so triple boot,
Ug, the Wife likes Vista..Why? Beats me! lol) While I like Win7 a lot
and use it for various reasons, my mainstay is Linux for serious
security purposes period. (AND, incredible customization/effects) I use
them both for the best of BOTH worlds.

G'day

Muad'Dib wrote:

I use
them both for the best of BOTH worlds.

G'day

Me too.
--
Alias

"Alias" wrote in message
...
Muad'Dib wrote:

I use
them both for the best of BOTH worlds.

G'day

Me too.

Same here.

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

After you have spent hours on the Linfux command lines to get 'em to work.
:-)
Rubbish.

If that was the case, Jagger's not a millionair then? But the question is
still unanswered - would *you* want *your* work stolen?


That's not the point. DRM restricts fair use. If I BUY a CD then why
shouldn't I be able to listen to it on my laptop, my HiFi OR my mp3 player?
After all I can't listen to all three at once...


And you *really* believe that Linfux is *IMMUNE* from such attacks?

It's far more immune that Windows by design.


Try Googling and you will get the answer, as for the number - well look at
Windows users compared to Linfux users and do the maths youself to see
which is the most profitable to attack.

Nothing to do with "profitability" - it's all down to EASE of attack. A
ten-year old can write a Windows virus...


Only *fools* and *idiots* believe that Linfux (and its derivatives)
is immune from nasties - and infallible to boot!

So as Linux runs the majority of web servers, where are all the Linux
viruses then?


A contradiction there I believe dumb-****, and Linfux is certaing *NOT*
"bullet proof" - there are less attacks on it simply because of the
comparatively low number of users.

Not so. See above. It's the DIFFICULTY of writing Linux viruses, not the
numbers of boxes. As I said - Linux runs the majority of web servers so by
your logic there should be loads of Linux viruses. But there aren't. AFAIK
there's only a hundred or less in the wild as opposed to MILLIONS of Windows
viruses.

And why are the users of it low? Because of all the ****ing about to get
things to work - it's mostly only geeks who love spending hours typing
command lines and those who like playing with themselves prefer toying
with Linfux.


Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command lines" at
all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no coherent
argument.

Gordon wrote:

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command lines"
at all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no
coherent argument.

Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have
read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the
antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,
intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No
mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they
want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will
and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their
claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There
could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they
dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS
using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.
(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,
sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or
flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly
well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's
pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they
will to deny..

G'day

On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
Gordon wrote:

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command
lines" at all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no
coherent argument.

Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have
read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the
antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,
intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No
mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they
want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will
and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their
claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There
could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they
dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS
using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.
(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,
sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or
flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly
well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's
pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they
will to deny..

G'day

You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that
the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?
Oops!

Frank wrote:
On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
Gordon wrote:

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command
lines" at all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no
coherent argument.

Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have
read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the
antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,
intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No
mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they
want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will
and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their
claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There
could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they
dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS
using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.
(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,
sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or
flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly
well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's
pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they
will to deny..

G'day

You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that
the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?
Oops!

2007:

"In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out
while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,
however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany
branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but
flat-out LYING..

NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they
EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a
lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,
stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap
to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office
ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing
someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL
Everyone act surprised!

"Oops!"

Muad'Dib wrote:
Frank wrote:
On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
Gordon wrote:

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command
lines" at all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no
coherent argument.

Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have
read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the
antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,
intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No
mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they
want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will
and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their
claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There
could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they
dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS
using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.
(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,
sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or
flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly
well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's
pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they
will to deny..

G'day

You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that
the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?
Oops!

2007:

"In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out
while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,
however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany
branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but
flat-out LYING..

NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they
EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a
lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,
stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap
to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office
ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing
someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL
Everyone act surprised!

"Oops!"


Frank will reply with only two things: lies and insults.

--
Alias

On 4/17/2010 11:55 PM, Muad'Dib wrote:
Frank wrote:
On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
Gordon wrote:

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command
lines" at all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no
coherent argument.

Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I have
read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the
antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,
intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No
mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if they
want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS will
and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their
claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There
could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they
dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS
using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.
(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,
sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills ignore or
flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly
well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's
pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they
will to deny..

G'day

You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that
the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?
Oops!

2007:

"In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out
while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,
however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany
branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but
flat-out LYING..

NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they
EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a
lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,
stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap
to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office
ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing
someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL
Everyone act surprised!

"Oops!"

Hahaha...yeah...right...I've got some swamp land in Florida you might be
interested in...or maybe a bridge in Arizona?
Oops!...LOL!

On 4/18/2010 4:06 AM, Alias wrote:
Muad'Dib wrote:
Frank wrote:
On 4/14/2010 3:14 AM, Muad'Dib wrote:
Gordon wrote:

"Unbeliever" wrote in message
...

Cretin. My Ubuntu just works out of the box - no "typing command
lines" at all.
Why is it the MS shills have to resort to abuse, disinformation and
downright LIES rather than coherent argument? Because they HAVE no
coherent argument.

Ain't that the truth. ..According to actual MS internal documents I
have
read myself that were released to the public as a result of ONE of the
antitrust lawsuits, that IS their standard M.O. ..Disinformation, FUD,
intimidation, lies, astroturfing, ETC. (All the despicable crap) No
mystery there, as their methods have been exposed for all to see if
they
want to investigate. Uninformed people have no idea just how low MS
will
and does go to develop, promote themselves and products. Even their
claims of user base numbers is 1/2 truths or out-and-out lies. There
could be 200mil computers sitting on shelves around the world, but they
dishonestly include those in their "sales" figures related to USERS
using their product. And Blamer is SO proud, LOL, what a pig.

No big surprise if one has educated them self as to how MS got started.
(The early days) Lies, stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating,
sneaky underhanded crap, and so on, yet the Zealots and Shills
ignore or
flatly deny the TRUTH. (LOL, Standard MO) BUT, the INFORMED know jolly
well better, so the Shills/Zealots can cackle all they want, but it's
pretty hard to deny what is written in black and white. ..Try as they
will to deny..

G'day

You mean like how L.T. reversed engineered unix to make linux? Is that
the kind of stealing, cheating and lying you're referring to?
Oops!

2007:

"In the United States, SCO's Linux/Unix litigation has been stalled out
while the company's bankruptcy trial is being dealt with. In Germany,
however, several court cases have found SCO Group GmbH, SCO's Germany
branch, guilty of lying about Linux containing stolen Unix code."

They were found guilty of LYING, get it? Not merely accusing but
flat-out LYING..

NOVELL owns Unix yet they have no problem with Linux, instead they
EMBRACE Linux and have a Distro of their own.

It is a Unix LIKE OS, nothing more. Furthermore, L.T. hasn't spent a
lifetime with disinformation, FUD, intimidation, lies, astroturfing,
stealing technology, dirty dealings, cheating, sneaky underhanded crap
to promote his OS, unlike MS and its OS and other software. MS Office
ring a bell? They just LOST a lawsuit for what? Yep, for AGAIN stealing
someone else's technology and incorporating it into theirs.. LOL
Everyone act surprised!

"Oops!"


Frank will reply with only two things: lies and insults.

Projecting again sheep-****er? You've been projecting a lot of late. Why
is that? Been caught lying of late...as usual?