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Old April 2nd 03, 09:18 AM
Paul Williams
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Hi,

I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.

However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.

Anybody got any comments on this?
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Old April 2nd 03, 10:06 AM
Joe Sanchez
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Hi Paul,
Hears a link to explain the differances betwwen XP and Win Me Win 98
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/p...wxpvswin98.asp

XP Pro and XP Home are based on the same technology.

Hope this Helps
Joe

"Paul Williams" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.

However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.

Anybody got any comments on this?



  #3  
Old April 2nd 03, 10:12 AM
JimC
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

From a user's perspective, both versions of XP are simply the newest
siblings in the Windows NT family of operating systems: Win NT Win 2000
Win XP.

Negative stuff that you here about XP Home Edition is not inherited from Win
ME. What you have probably heard is nothing more than grousing about the
learning curve that confronts home users who jump from the W95/98/ME family
into the WinNT/2000/XP family.

--Jim

"Paul Williams" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.

However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.

Anybody got any comments on this?



  #4  
Old April 2nd 03, 10:28 AM
johnf
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Paul Williams wrote:
Hi,

I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.

However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.

Anybody got any comments on this?


Other replies prior to this one are correct and you will often notice when
you go to download XP driver upgrades for 3rd. party programs, you will see
the option is 2000/XP.
FWIW, I originally ran '98 (1st. release), upgraded it to ME (full version),
then later to XP Pro (also full version) and have never had any problems.

--
johnf
(when replying direct, please ensure my address ends with .au)



  #5  
Old April 2nd 03, 10:41 AM
Bil Gates Bastard
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.

Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family.
Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't
make money from support if they make it easy,
so they decided to nail those customers that made
them to be the richest company in the world.
Gates have enough money to last his family
hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now,
so he can nail his customers after he dies.

MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer
or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them
ever again, because they can make money by nailing
others, wasting their time and money, try to impress
them with their worthless over engineered programs.

Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it,
and can't be restored. You simply have to install
clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top
the old install, because the stupid thing asks for
Administrator password but it can't recognize it.

To find your mail files, you have to dig for them
10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name.
Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it.

If you don't know how to secure and configure XP,
then every body on the internet can access your computer,
play with your files and do as they please.

What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.

MS never made a good running product, they always
do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs,
and harder to use.
Look back in their history, from DOS days until
today, non of the products they made was at least
reasonable.

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you
would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap
as Win95, because this is serious NT support.
Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots.
In the past they had mediocre support, now they
have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support.






"Paul Williams" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.

However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.

Anybody got any comments on this?



  #6  
Old April 2nd 03, 11:58 AM
johnf
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Bil Gates ******* wrote:
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.


What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.


(Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office)

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs.


(Never caused any problems for me)

main rant snipped

Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only thinks he
knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs, upgrades & patches, then
complains when things go wrong.

One question. Why are you still using XP??
--
johnf




  #7  
Old April 2nd 03, 11:58 AM
Rick \Nutcase\ Rogers
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Hi Paul,

Both are based on the NT kernel. The Win9x kernel ended with WinME, it =
is the last of the line. Both versions have the same stability features. =
Your impression is correct. WinXP Home is simply a "cut down" version =
designed more for the home user. It is missing a few of the features =
found in the Pro version (notably IIS and the ability to connect to a =
domain) - the core OS however is exactly the same.

--=20
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers aka "Nutcase" MS-MVP - Win9x - =
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
Associate Expert - WinXP - Expert Zone - =
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
Win98 Help - www.rickrogers.org

"Paul Williams" wrote in message =
om...
Hi,
=20
I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.
=20
However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.
=20
Anybody got any comments on this?

  #8  
Old April 2nd 03, 12:03 PM
Michael Stevens
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Bil Gates ******* wrote:
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.

Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family.
Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't
make money from support if they make it easy,
so they decided to nail those customers that made
them to be the richest company in the world.
Gates have enough money to last his family
hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now,
so he can nail his customers after he dies.

MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer
or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them
ever again, because they can make money by nailing
others, wasting their time and money, try to impress
them with their worthless over engineered programs.

Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it,
and can't be restored. You simply have to install
clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top
the old install, because the stupid thing asks for
Administrator password but it can't recognize it.

To find your mail files, you have to dig for them
10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name.
Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it.

If you don't know how to secure and configure XP,
then every body on the internet can access your computer,
play with your files and do as they please.

What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.

MS never made a good running product, they always
do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs,
and harder to use.
Look back in their history, from DOS days until
today, non of the products they made was at least
reasonable.

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you
would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap
as Win95, because this is serious NT support.
Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots.
In the past they had mediocre support, now they
have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support.






BGB,
May I suggest you abandon your normal male penchant for not reading the
manual and actually learn what you are talking about. If you find using XP
unfriendly, you have some serious learning disorders. Every example you gave
was a smoking gun pointing out how ill informed you are. Maybe it is just
the accelerated pace of technology that has you confused. Do you also find
programming your DVD or VCR player a challenge? Maybe that remote with the
ability to control more than one device is the same frustration. I see your
frequent posts, and usually just shake my head in amusement. But I am
beginning to feel sorry for you, either you are a pre-teen with serious lack
of parental supervision, or an ill informed adult. In either case your posts
are getting painful to ignore. Where in the computer owners manual does it
say this computer was expressly built for stupid ill informed people that
refuse to learn how to use them?
BTW From your recent posts, you are probably doing people a favor not
offering your help.
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com



  #9  
Old April 2nd 03, 12:42 PM
JimC
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?


"johnf" wrote in message
...
Bil Gates ******* wrote:
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.


What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.


(Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office)

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs.


(Never caused any problems for me)

main rant snipped

Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only thinks he
knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs, upgrades & patches,

then
complains when things go wrong.

One question. Why are you still using XP??
--
johnf


Johnf,

Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions," and your
lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS instructions"
sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!" Most folks don't ask for
XP help because they selected XP of their own free will. For new PC
systems, XP is shoved down everyone's throat by the Redmond regime's
stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell or Gatweay machine comes with
Microsoft product EULAs that provide users with fewer rights and less
protection than most terrorists enjoy.

--Jim



  #10  
Old April 2nd 03, 01:02 PM
johnf
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

JimC wrote:
"johnf" wrote in message
...
Bil Gates ******* wrote:
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.


What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.


(Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office)

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs.


(Never caused any problems for me)

main rant snipped

Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only
thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs,
upgrades & patches,

then
complains when things go wrong.

One question. Why are you still using XP??
--
johnf


Johnf,

Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions,"
and your lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS
instructions" sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!"
Most folks don't ask for XP help because they selected XP of their
own free will. For new PC systems, XP is shoved down everyone's
throat by the Redmond regime's stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell
or Gatweay machine comes with Microsoft product EULAs that provide
users with fewer rights and less protection than most terrorists
enjoy.

--Jim


No, Jim, my contempt is for people who post purely destructive comments on
what is meant to be helpful NG.
It must be very disconcerting for relative newbies who have just purchased
XP, coming to the NG seeking a solution to a, probably minor, problem &
reading something like that. It sure would give me second thoughts as to
whether I'd done the right thing.
And AFAIK, Dell & Gateway (also HP) modify the basic XP program towards
their own means - look what happened to HP OS's when SP1 was first released.
To me, that can't be hung on MS.
--
johnf


  #11  
Old April 2nd 03, 01:08 PM
Michael Stevens
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

JimC wrote:
"johnf" wrote in message
...
Bil Gates ******* wrote:
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.


What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.


(Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office)

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs.


(Never caused any problems for me)

main rant snipped

Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only
thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs,
upgrades & patches, then complains when things go wrong.

One question. Why are you still using XP??
--
johnf


Johnf,

Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions,"
and your lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS
instructions" sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!"
Most folks don't ask for XP help because they selected XP of their
own free will. For new PC systems, XP is shoved down everyone's
throat by the Redmond regime's stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell
or Gatweay machine comes with Microsoft product EULAs that provide
users with fewer rights and less protection than most terrorists
enjoy.

--Jim


Absolute BS, when was it in recent history acceptable for a computer
manufacturer to offer anything but the latest and most widely compatible OS
as their main product? If anyone is so aggrieved with purchasing a computer
with XP installed, they only have to go as far as their nearest Wall to
purchase a system with Linux installed or purchase a custom system from a
local vendor or build it themselves. The OEM's are in business to make a
profit and they will supply the product that will give the least volume of
support for the software they expect will be used on the supplied OS.
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com



  #12  
Old April 2nd 03, 01:35 PM
Michael Stevens
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Michael Stevens wrote:

Of course Wall was a typo. 8-)



Absolute BS, when was it in recent history acceptable for a computer
manufacturer to offer anything but the latest and most widely
compatible OS as their main product? If anyone is so aggrieved with
purchasing a computer with XP installed, they only have to go as far



as their nearest Wall-Mart to purchase a system with Linux installed or

And I will add for around $200. Learning curve has a varible price.



purchase a custom system from a local vendor or build it themselves.
The OEM's are in business to make a profit and they will supply the
product that will give the least volume of support for the software
they expect will be used on the supplied OS.




  #13  
Old April 2nd 03, 02:12 PM
HillBillyBuddhist
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

I read this post and figured it was an attempt at sarcastic humor. Then I
read the responses and discovered "Bil" was serious. A heavy sigh is the
most emotion I can generate for this poor fellow. To anyone reading "Bil's"
misguided rant who is new to XP or thinking of getting it just ignore the
post. For anyone who has to drive in "Bil's" neighborhood we will say a
prayer for you and hope he spent more time learning the rules of the road
than he did learning to work Windows.

D

"Bil Gates *******" wrote in message
...
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.

Yes, both home and pro belong to the NT family.
Something MS never wanted to do, but they can't
make money from support if they make it easy,
so they decided to nail those customers that made
them to be the richest company in the world.
Gates have enough money to last his family
hundred of years, but he is trying to buy heaven now,
so he can nail his customers after he dies.

MS now doesn't care whether you are a happy customer
or not, and they don't care if you never bought from them
ever again, because they can make money by nailing
others, wasting their time and money, try to impress
them with their worthless over engineered programs.

Yes, it is more stable, but sometimes it dogs it,
and can't be restored. You simply have to install
clean when it does, it doesn't even reinstall on top
the old install, because the stupid thing asks for
Administrator password but it can't recognize it.

To find your mail files, you have to dig for them
10 folders deep, in a weird very long directory name.
Scew your mail box he says, you don't need to find it.

If you don't know how to secure and configure XP,
then every body on the internet can access your computer,
play with your files and do as they please.

What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.

MS never made a good running product, they always
do something new, with more bugs, tougher bugs,
and harder to use.
Look back in their history, from DOS days until
today, non of the products they made was at least
reasonable.

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs. So you
would call MS and pay for support. Not as cheap
as Win95, because this is serious NT support.
Their support are a bunch of ignorant idiots.
In the past they had mediocre support, now they
have stupid ignorant agencies doing their support.






"Paul Williams" wrote in message
om...
Hi,

I've been told that XP Home is based on Windows ME (and as such is not
very good), whereas XP Pro is based on Windows NT and is much better
in terms of stability etc.

However, I was under the impression that XP Home was just a cut down
version of XP Pro with less features. I also assumed that it was a bit
of an attempt by Microsoft to position each prodcut in the market.

Anybody got any comments on this?





  #14  
Old April 2nd 03, 03:27 PM
JimC
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Default XP Home based on Win ME but XP Pro based on NT ?

Michael,

If what you say about OEMs is true, explain why new PC systems prominently
display the Windows logo and bear the legend "Designed For Microsoft Windows
XP."

I have never seen a washing machine stamped with the Proctor & Gamble logo
or a table lamp "Designed For Westinghouse Light Bulbs."

Sorry, Mike, but the tail is wagging the dog in the PC industry.
Unfortunately, your posts suggest that you are one of the wagged dogs.

-Jim

"Michael Stevens" wrote in message
...
JimC wrote:
"johnf" wrote in message
...
Bil Gates ******* wrote:
The most unfriendly operating system for the novice user.
You have to be a professional user, to run both home and pro.

What also worse, for the littlest problem, the computer
shuts down. Who is the stupid person that thought
shutting the computer down in the middle of your
work is a great idea.
Works perfect with MS Office, that thing never ran
right from day one, getting errors with office is a very
common thing, if you don't save your work, then you are
going to loose your work when the computer shuts down.

(Never ever had a shut-down or problems with Office)

I use to help people run their computer, I don't
do it no more, XP has so many bugs is unbelievable,
they make you a service pack, and the darn thing
fixes some bugs but adds big new bugs.

(Never caused any problems for me)

main rant snipped

Apparently another one who doesn't follow MS instructions, only
thinks he knows all, so goes his own merry way with installs,
upgrades & patches, then complains when things go wrong.

One question. Why are you still using XP??
--
johnf


Johnf,

Your contempt for "another one who doesn't follow MS instructions,"
and your lack of empathy are less than admirable. Your "follow MS
instructions" sounds a lot like "follow Saddam's instructions!"
Most folks don't ask for XP help because they selected XP of their
own free will. For new PC systems, XP is shoved down everyone's
throat by the Redmond regime's stranglehold on the OEMs. A new Dell
or Gatweay machine comes with Microsoft product EULAs that provide
users with fewer rights and less protection than most terrorists
enjoy.

--Jim


Absolute BS, when was it in recent history acceptable for a computer
manufacturer to offer anything but the latest and most widely compatible

OS
as their main product? If anyone is so aggrieved with purchasing a

computer
with XP installed, they only have to go as far as their nearest Wall to
purchase a system with Linux installed or purchase a custom system from a
local vendor or build it themselves. The OEM's are in business to make a
profit and they will supply the product that will give the least volume of
support for the software they expect will be used on the supplied OS.
--

Michael Stevens MS-MVP XP

http://michaelstevenstech.com





  #15  
Old April 2nd 03, 04:24 PM
Opinicus
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JimC said:

I have never seen a washing machine stamped with the Proctor & Gamble
logo

Actually I have seen washing machines being sold with a "Such-and-such
detergent recommend" sticker and even with samples of them inside...

--
Bob
Kanyak's Doghouse
http://kanyak.com

 




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