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  #16  
Old March 25th 12, 09:17 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Al Sparber
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Jeff T wrote:

What I'm looking for is, being able to log into
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (for example) from a public computer..

You can use this link from any public computer.:

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/topics?lnk=srg

Newsservers are managed by pedophiles and abusers so don't use them from
any public machines
especially the albasani.net newsgroups that is run by a guy called:
Joerg Jaeger but he uses various aliases:

Good luck.

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Old March 25th 12, 09:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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"Ant" wrote:


I don't think there are any free binary news servers.


http://xsusenet.com/

Jon


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Old March 25th 12, 10:12 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Mayayana wrote:
| Are there any good, free newsservers?
|

I was just looking into that the other day. I've been using
eternal-september, which requires registration but has no
fee. I'm happy with it, and they seem to have a non-
commercial attitude, but lately I've had almost daily problems.
I get "unable to connect", "too many connections from
your IP address", etc. I'm guessing that they're overloaded,
though there's no indication of that from their website.


As I mentioned in the other newsgroup, it's been years since I've last seen
this particular message (if ever). The problem is in the combined interactions
between you newsreader, your ISP, and E-S. It is *not* solely because of E-S,
and it is not overloaded.


The other day I got tired of waiting to log on and decided
to try aioe.org, which doesn't even require registration. I
posted a message and received the error: "Unable to post
because header is more than an hour old." ! I've never seen
an error like that, and it doesn't seem to make sense.


Again this is your fault - why is the time setting on your computer wrong?
Fix your time, time zone, or DST! I see your messages as coming from the future.

I did some looking around but didn't find any promising
solutions, so for now, at least, I'm staying with eternal-
september.


It will work fine, once you fix your settings / change newsreader / change
ISP.

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Old March 25th 12, 10:16 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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In ,
Mayayana typed:
And too many
connections means that your newsreader is using too many threads (or
is it ports?) accessing the server. Some newsreaders you can set
this and some you can't. And once you get this error, I think the
server gives you a timeout for an hour (or is it a few minutes?).


I doubt that's it. I'm using OE. I've been using it
for years. This is a new problem. It may be that as
a cable connector I'm on a shared IP. (?) But I'm
inclined to think these are red herring errors. They're
usually around 9-10AM and the actual error varies
quite a bit.... but I can always reconnect after a few
minutes.


I too use OE6 most of the time and after research it uses like 7 and ES
only allow 5 (somebody check this in case my memory is off). And while
ES claims it is over the limit, they support OE most of the time.

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  #20  
Old March 25th 12, 10:18 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
jim
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:17:42 -0500, in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general, "Jeff T" ,
wrote


What I'm looking for is, being able to log into
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (for example) from a public computer..

Jeff


You probably want to use Google Groups then -- which someone else has
probably already said.....

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Old March 25th 12, 10:52 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Jeff T[_3_]
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"Patok" wrote in message
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Mayayana wrote:
| Are there any good, free newsservers?
|

Thanks, I'll use Google Groups if I have to.


Jeff


  #22  
Old March 25th 12, 11:00 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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|
| Paolo Amoroso has fooled around a *lot* with that clock check. At one
time,
| it was widened out to around a day, so it wouldn't trip up on
| trivial daylight savings errors. If you're seeing that error again,
| you'd need to complain over on aioe.news.helpdesk .
|
| "Clock abusers" post in the future, in the hopes their posting
| will always appear at the "top" of a date-listed screen. That's
| why they do it. And some servers flag such attempts. But in this
| case, the check is too tight.
|

That might explain it. DST started two weeks ago here.
I guess it really defeats the purpose of no reg. if they
try to make up for it with overzealous policing.


  #23  
Old March 25th 12, 11:03 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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| And too many
| connections means that your newsreader is using too many threads (or is
| it ports?) accessing the server. Some newsreaders you can set this and
| some you can't. And once you get this error, I think the server gives
| you a timeout for an hour (or is it a few minutes?).
|

I doubt that's it. I'm using OE. I've been using it
for years. This is a new problem. It may be that as
a cable connector I'm on a shared IP. (?) But I'm
inclined to think these are red herring errors. They're
usually around 9-10AM and the actual error varies
quite a bit.... but I can always reconnect after a few
minutes.


  #24  
Old March 26th 12, 02:42 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Stefan Patric[_3_]
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 11:17:42 -0500, Jeff T wrote:

"Stefan Patric" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:09:52 -0500, Jeff T wrote:

Are there any good, free newsservers?


Yes. A plethora of them. But most are "limited" in some way. Just do
a search for "free Usenet servers."

I use www.aioe.org as it has SSL servers in addition to the open,
unsecured ones, and doesn't require registration.

Stef



What I'm looking for is, being able to log into
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (for example) from a public
computer..


Okay. You asked the wrong question in your initial post.

First, check or ask if the "public computer" is already set up to access
the Usenet. If not, then Google Groups is the only solution as far as I
know. Works from any web browser. But such access may be blocked.

Stef
  #25  
Old March 26th 12, 03:10 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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| I too use OE6 most of the time and after research it uses like 7 and ES
| only allow 5 (somebody check this in case my memory is off). And while
| ES claims it is over the limit, they support OE most of the time.
|

You're not making sense. Why would it be connecting on
7 ports? I have 2 ports live, which I assume are in and out.


  #26  
Old March 26th 12, 03:19 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mayayana
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|
| As I mentioned in the other newsgroup, it's been years since I've last
seen
| this particular message (if ever). The problem is in the combined
interactions
| between you newsreader, your ISP, and E-S. It is *not* solely because of
E-S,
| and it is not overloaded.
|

That doesn't really explain it, though I have wondered if
eternal-september might be seeing multiple connections from
the same cable neighborhood as coming from the same location.
But that's only one message I get.


| Again this is your fault - why is the time setting on your computer
wrong?
| Fix your time, time zone, or DST! I see your messages as coming from the
future.
|

I'm posting this at 9:15 PM EDT. The zone is set to EST,
as there's no EDT zone on Windows. Am I missing something?
I've never noticed an issue about this before. Paul mentioned
that it could be a problem with aioe not having caught up
with Daylight Savings Time. If someone knows all the facts
here I'd be interested to know. But if I've somehow got a
setting wrong on my end I don't know what it is.


  #27  
Old March 26th 12, 03:20 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
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Al Sparber wrote in
:



Jeff T wrote:

What I'm looking for is, being able to log into
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general (for example) from a public
computer..

You can use this link from any public computer.:

http://groups.google.com/group/micro...p.general/topi
cs?lnk=srg

Newsservers are managed by pedophiles and abusers so don't use them
from any public machines
especially the albasani.net newsgroups that is run by a guy called:
Joerg Jaeger but he uses various
aliases:

Good luck.


bull****

you are ****ed at albasani.net because your account was canceled by
albasani for your recent racist post

you are the abuser
  #28  
Old March 26th 12, 03:24 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Stefan Patric[_3_]
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:00:30 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

|
| Paolo Amoroso has fooled around a *lot* with that clock check. At one
time,
| it was widened out to around a day, so it wouldn't trip up on |
trivial daylight savings errors. If you're seeing that error again, |
you'd need to complain over on aioe.news.helpdesk . |
| "Clock abusers" post in the future, in the hopes their posting | will
always appear at the "top" of a date-listed screen. That's | why they do
it. And some servers flag such attempts. But in this | case, the check
is too tight.
|

That might explain it. DST started two weeks ago here.
I guess it really defeats the purpose of no reg. if they try to make up
for it with overzealous policing.


Daylight Savings Time shouldn't cause any problems. I've been using
aioe.org for several years both with Windows and Linux, in and out of
DST, dual booted or dedicated, and never had any problems. I would look
for an improperly set setting or an ill-configured configuration
somewhere.

If you're using OE for Usenet access, check it. I've heard too many
times of problems that when traced lead back to OE as the culprit.

Stef
  #29  
Old March 26th 12, 04:37 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Stefan Patric wrote:
On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:00:30 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

|
| Paolo Amoroso has fooled around a *lot* with that clock check. At one
time,
| it was widened out to around a day, so it wouldn't trip up on |
trivial daylight savings errors. If you're seeing that error again, |
you'd need to complain over on aioe.news.helpdesk . |
| "Clock abusers" post in the future, in the hopes their posting | will
always appear at the "top" of a date-listed screen. That's | why they do
it. And some servers flag such attempts. But in this | case, the check
is too tight.
|

That might explain it. DST started two weeks ago here.
I guess it really defeats the purpose of no reg. if they try to make up
for it with overzealous policing.


Daylight Savings Time shouldn't cause any problems. I've been using
aioe.org for several years both with Windows and Linux, in and out of
DST, dual booted or dedicated, and never had any problems. I would look
for an improperly set setting or an ill-configured configuration
somewhere.

If you're using OE for Usenet access, check it. I've heard too many
times of problems that when traced lead back to OE as the culprit.

Stef


It's when a person, corrects the time manually, to match their watch,
that the trouble begins. A lack of DST promotion, leads them to change
their time setting, which causes the actual time to be wrong. Something
along those line.

And I have fixed DST with tzedit, back when I was running Win2K.
A great little tool from Microsoft.

Paul
  #30  
Old March 26th 12, 04:58 AM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Paul
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Mayayana wrote:

That doesn't really explain it, though I have wondered if
eternal-september might be seeing multiple connections from
the same cable neighborhood as coming from the same location.
But that's only one message I get.


The news client can do more than one thing at a time, given
an opportunity.

For example, in Thunderbird, tick the (+) box next to the server
name, to start a scan for new messages. If, a second later, you
click the group at the top of the list, while the scan is
still working its way down the list (looking for new articles),
that second click can open a new connection to the server, to
get the list of articles for the group and display them iu the
right pane. The two commands can be asynchronous. If you're a real
"click monkey", you could undoubtedly queue up a few connections.
And the connections would happen, if you went into the Config Editor
and changed the connection limit. (Of course, if the server limits
them on its end, it's going to give you one of those fine error
messages.)

Web browsers (of which Thunderbird has a browser engine inside),
also support connection limiting, but users typically set the
limit to around 8 connections or so. I've never tried messing
with that, to see how fouled up I could make things.

To test that limit (8 in the browser), I recommend opening about
21 windows or so (that's how many I have open right now), then
go to Task Manager and do an "End Process" on Firefox. Firefox
remembers session information, even if killed off in that way.
Now, when you next click your Firefox icon, to start a new session,
it knows it was terminated in mid-session, and it'll ask
if you want those 21 windows back again. When it goes to
reload the windows, that gives an excellent opportunity to
see how the connection limit affects things. I find some
of the 21 windows that open, stay blank for maybe 30 seconds,
until they get their turn to open a connection. The connection
limit, slows down the refreshing of the 21 windows.

I use the "session memory" feature on purpose - if I want Firefox
to open those windows the next time I boot, I "kill" Firefox
rather than quitting it, and that remembers everything
I was working on. It beats bookmarking 21 things, one at a time.

Paul
 




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