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Carl has brought this to us :
I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl Carl, the best way to remove a program completely, is to monitor the installation when you first install it. The two programs below do just that and will in most cases completely remove it or in the case of Total Uninstall, show you a list of the files and registry entries that it could not remove. Total Uninstall (The last freeware version (I still use it) can be downloaded from he http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...al%20Uninstall I just came across this one the other day, and it not only will monitor your installation, but will give you a choice, when you uninstall a program, of completely uninstalling it or keep a reinstall record so that you can reinstall it if change your mind and want it back (kind of neat) It's a definite keeper for me. AShampoo Magical Uninstall http://www2.ashampoo.com/webcache/ht...0803___USD.htm Although it is freeware at the moment, it may not continue to be so. I would get a copy now while it is still available. This one requires registration, but the entire process takes only a minute or two at the most(I wouldn't use my primary email address though, because these type of offers usually result in a bombardment of emails promoting there different products) Note: So far, for me, Magical Uninstall has performed an install, uninstall and reinstall of the applications I tested flawlessly. Hope this helps you out. Enjoy! What about data files, etc., that a program creates on the fly? Will it delete those and their folders too? Many programs create new files as they operate. Twayne |
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Carl has brought this to us :
I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl Carl, the best way to remove a program completely, is to monitor the installation when you first install it. The two programs below do just that and will in most cases completely remove it or in the case of Total Uninstall, show you a list of the files and registry entries that it could not remove. Total Uninstall (The last freeware version (I still use it) can be downloaded from he http://www.321download.com/LastFreew...al%20Uninstall I just came across this one the other day, and it not only will monitor your installation, but will give you a choice, when you uninstall a program, of completely uninstalling it or keep a reinstall record so that you can reinstall it if change your mind and want it back (kind of neat) It's a definite keeper for me. AShampoo Magical Uninstall http://www2.ashampoo.com/webcache/ht...0803___USD.htm Although it is freeware at the moment, it may not continue to be so. I would get a copy now while it is still available. This one requires registration, but the entire process takes only a minute or two at the most(I wouldn't use my primary email address though, because these type of offers usually result in a bombardment of emails promoting there different products) Note: So far, for me, Magical Uninstall has performed an install, uninstall and reinstall of the applications I tested flawlessly. Hope this helps you out. Enjoy! What about data files, etc., that a program creates on the fly? Will it delete those and their folders too? Many programs create new files as they operate. Twayne |
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The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the
application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is installed the files can be deleted directly. The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of firefox to install the latest. To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like "Total Uninstall" ----------------------------- "Carl" escribió en el mensaje ... I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl |
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The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the
application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is installed the files can be deleted directly. The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of firefox to install the latest. To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like "Total Uninstall" ----------------------------- "Carl" escribió en el mensaje ... I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl |
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johnn wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote: I use REVO uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that. If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight. Thanks, John. I downloaded Appupdater as I believed it would both remove AND update programs but, when I tried to run it in the command line, I realized I was in over my head. Got it to do a few things, but if you don't know what you are doing there, best to back out and try something else. REVO has a nice, simple GUI which is what a newbie like me needs. Again, my thanks, Carl |
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johnn wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote: I use REVO uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that. If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight. Thanks, John. I downloaded Appupdater as I believed it would both remove AND update programs but, when I tried to run it in the command line, I realized I was in over my head. Got it to do a few things, but if you don't know what you are doing there, best to back out and try something else. REVO has a nice, simple GUI which is what a newbie like me needs. Again, my thanks, Carl |
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I use REVO uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that. If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight. I just downloaded and ran REVO uninstaller for the first time. I'd like to check one thing. When you get the window that says - - Please carefully verify the bolded items! Only checked bolded items and their subitems will be deleted! - - I presume them mean to check the bolded boxes as I have dore he http://a3.s3.p.quickshareit.com/files/picture2c3f3e.jpg Did I do this right??? Keeping my fingers crossed that I did. Carl |
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I use REVO uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that. If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight. I just downloaded and ran REVO uninstaller for the first time. I'd like to check one thing. When you get the window that says - - Please carefully verify the bolded items! Only checked bolded items and their subitems will be deleted! - - I presume them mean to check the bolded boxes as I have dore he http://a3.s3.p.quickshareit.com/files/picture2c3f3e.jpg Did I do this right??? Keeping my fingers crossed that I did. Carl |
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One more question - how do you delete any and all games that came with
Windows? I couldn't seem to do it with REVO's Hunter Mode. Carl johnn wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote: I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl Hi Carl: I use REVO uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that. If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight. Cheers! __________________________________ johnn __________________________________ "God is dead" - Nietzsche (1844-1935) "Nietzsche is dead" - God |
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One more question - how do you delete any and all games that came with
Windows? I couldn't seem to do it with REVO's Hunter Mode. Carl johnn wrote: On Tue, 20 Jan 2009 19:05:52 -0800 (PST), Carl wrote: I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl Hi Carl: I use REVO uninstaller http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html As far as I kinow, it does exacrly that. If I'm wrong (and I'm no expert) I'm sure someone will soon set me straight. Cheers! __________________________________ johnn __________________________________ "God is dead" - Nietzsche (1844-1935) "Nietzsche is dead" - God |
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Just a little FYI, not a big hairy deal: The Windows Installer Cleanup
Utility uninstalls Windows Installer packages (*.msi) and components (*.msp and *.mst). These objects contain the logic and data needed to install and update applications installed using the Windows Installer (aka MsiInstaller). It doesn't remove the application itself. WICU can be very useful when Windows Installer packages become, shall we say, buggered up and you find yourself unable to uninstall, reinstall or update an application installed by Windows Installer. You use it it to remove the installaer packages, and then you reinstall the application. Now you can (hopefully) uninstall or update the application. When you uninstall an application that uses Windows Installer, the installer packages can get left behind. In this case - they're just sitting there on your hard drive doing nothing, and go figure what that huge .msp file with the cryptic name is - WICU gets rid of the installer packages. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Ronaldo wrote: The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is installed the files can be deleted directly. The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of firefox to install the latest. To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like "Total Uninstall" ----------------------------- "Carl" escribió en el mensaje ... I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl |
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Just a little FYI, not a big hairy deal: The Windows Installer Cleanup
Utility uninstalls Windows Installer packages (*.msi) and components (*.msp and *.mst). These objects contain the logic and data needed to install and update applications installed using the Windows Installer (aka MsiInstaller). It doesn't remove the application itself. WICU can be very useful when Windows Installer packages become, shall we say, buggered up and you find yourself unable to uninstall, reinstall or update an application installed by Windows Installer. You use it it to remove the installaer packages, and then you reinstall the application. Now you can (hopefully) uninstall or update the application. When you uninstall an application that uses Windows Installer, the installer packages can get left behind. In this case - they're just sitting there on your hard drive doing nothing, and go figure what that huge .msp file with the cryptic name is - WICU gets rid of the installer packages. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Ronaldo wrote: The Windows Add or Remove application does a good job but it uses the application's uninstaller and these are designed to leave behind what the new version may need from the previous version. If no new version is installed the files can be deleted directly. The three folders contain the Firefox settings and are left behind by the Firefox uninstaller, anticipating that you are uninstalling one version of firefox to install the latest. To have the best chances of removing everything you installed during a program installation, you need to monitor the installation with a Microsoft product as "Windows Installer Cleanup" or a third party application like "Total Uninstall" ----------------------------- "Carl" escribió en el mensaje ... I am a Mac user, new to Windows. I removed Firefox from Windows XP Home by using the Add or Remove Programs control panel. Afterward, when I do a search for Firefox, I come up with three folders: Components, Defaults, and Plugins. May I just right click on these and delete them? Why are they not deleted by the Add or Remove Programs control panel? Is there some Program I could download, as there is for the Mac, that will, when you use it to delete a program, safely delete every file associated with that program? Many thanks, Carl |
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Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility. I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that) contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications installed using the Windows Installer" Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say, version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility? Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it? One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use? Thanks, Carl |
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Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer
Cleanup Utility. I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that) contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications installed using the Windows Installer" Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say, version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility? Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it? One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use? Thanks, Carl |
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"Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say,
version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility?" Correct, sort of, presuming that v.1 used the Windows Installer and v.1 can be upgraded to v.2. The Windows Installer objects have to remain on your hard disk in order to upgrade. OTOH if v.2 works better as a clean install - let's say you're "upgrading" from Office 2003 to Office 2007 - you'll do better to remove the old installer packages with WICU. Windows Installer objects live primarily in C:\Windows\Installer, which is, of course, a hidden file that is often a gigabyte or more in size. Steve Jobs would not put up with it. "Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it?" Correct. "...get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use" Easy...when you know how. Go to Control Panel Add or Remove Programs Add/Remove Windows Components. --- Leonard Grey Errare humanum est Carl wrote: Thanks, Leonard. On your advice, I installed the Windows Installer Cleanup Utility. I note you stated that this utility will uninstall "objects (that) contain the logic and data needed to install and /update/ applications installed using the Windows Installer" Am I correct in interpreting this to mean that if I downloaded, say, version 1 of some application and wanted to update it when version 2 came out that I would be unable to so do because I had run this utility? Should I just keep it on my HD and use it only if some Windows Installer package became corrupted and I am unable to uninstall, reinstall, or update it? One last question: how the devil do I get rid of those 11 games that M/S installs and that I will never use? Thanks, Carl |
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