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Boycott Vista in the UK!
Bruce Chambers schrieb:
Alias wrote: Bruce Chambers wrote: Gordon wrote: According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off culture stops. PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this. The prices listed, I'll agree, are outrageous. How much of that is V.A.T? 17.5% Alias Ouch! But that still doesn't account for the entire difference, does it? I wonder if Microsoft is charging more in member countries of the EU, since EU courts are imposing such costly, and sometime absurd, conditions on Microsoft, at the behest of European companies that can't compete? For example, in Germany: Windows Vista Business - Retail 369 Euro - Upgrade 249 Euro - System Builder 139 Euro (19 % V.A.T. incl.) http://www.alternate.de/html/themeworldSearch.html?criteria=YVBM33+YUBM17+YOBM5 A+YOBM6A+YVBM34+YUBM18+YOBM7A+YOBM8A+YVBM35+YUBM19 +YOBM9A+YOBMAA+YVBM36+YUBM20+YOBMBA+YOBMCA&concat= OR&description=Microsoft%20Windows%20Vista 1 USD = Euro 0.771618 GBP 0.509632 http://www.xe.com/ Roy |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
Bruce
Ripping each other off is almost a British National pastime. they are the absolute worst for it.. if they think that they can 'put one over another', they will.. "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... Eric wrote: "Gordon" wrote in message ... According to this BBC page http://www.microsoft.com/uk/press/executives/ users in the Uk are going to be ripped off yet again by being charged DOUBLE the prices charged in USA. Let's boycott Vista in the UK until this rip-off culture stops. PS - if anyone has an email address for the Sales Director of MS UK I would like to know so that I can ask him to comment on this. I hear the price of a German car is higher in the US than in Germany. What's up with that? I hear those crazy people want us to pay shipping and import expenses too. I hear we pay $70 in the US for a jacket they can get for $5 in S Korea. What's up with that? So you think it costs a couple hundred dollars to ship a CD from the U.S. to the U.K.? Just who' s the "crazy" one hear? -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote:
Bruce Ripping each other off is almost a British National pastime. they are the absolute worst for it.. if they think that they can 'put one over another', they will.. Really? Things sure have changed since I last lived in the UK, then. -- Bruce Chambers Help us help you: http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -Benjamin Franklin Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. -Bertrand Russell |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
"Bruce Chambers" wrote in message
... So you think it costs a couple hundred dollars to ship a CD from the U.S. to the U.K.? Just who' s the "crazy" one hear? Especially as the XP CDs were pressed in Ireland, so I'm sure the Vista ones will be also..... |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
Bruce Chambers wrote:
Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User wrote: Bruce Ripping each other off is almost a British National pastime. they are the absolute worst for it.. if they think that they can 'put one over another', they will.. Really? Things sure have changed since I last lived in the UK, then. You obviously hung out with a different crowd than Mike did. Alias |
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"Gordon" wrote in message ... "Bruce Chambers" wrote in message ... So you think it costs a couple hundred dollars to ship a CD from the U.S. to the U.K.? Just who' s the "crazy" one hear? I'm not saying it costs $100 to ship a CD. I was saying that could be part of it, with other factors involved. Especially as the XP CDs were pressed in Ireland, so I'm sure the Vista ones will be also..... Did you miss the part where I asked if they were shipping CD straight from Ireland to "the UK" (England?), or if it was part of a package deal with a PC purchased from the US where they shipped the CD to the US and back up to the UK? Just one suggestion... perhaps MS purposely overcharged the UK because we're just slowly making them pay our expenses for the wars. |
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"Alias" wrote in message
... Eric wrote: did you figure in the expense amount of legislation against MS in Europe? What does that have to do with the end user? Did the end user fine MS? Can you provide one credible source for this speculation or are you just making it up as you go along? Alias Let's suppose, for arguments sake, that Eric is correct (and he may be). The cost is always bore by the end user, they always absorb the "cost of doing business". When business taxes are raised by the governemtn here in the US, we consumers wind up paying for it in highr costs for the products, that's why this nonsense of windfall taxies on oil companies will only cost the consumer more. |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
"Alias" wrote in message
... snip With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen. Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe. |
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Pete Stavrakoglou wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message ... Eric wrote: did you figure in the expense amount of legislation against MS in Europe? What does that have to do with the end user? Did the end user fine MS? Can you provide one credible source for this speculation or are you just making it up as you go along? Alias Let's suppose, for arguments sake, that Eric is correct (and he may be). The cost is always bore by the end user, they always absorb the "cost of doing business". When business taxes are raised by the governemtn here in the US, we consumers wind up paying for it in highr costs for the products, that's why this nonsense of windfall taxies on oil companies will only cost the consumer more. Considering that generic OEM versions are the same price here as in the USA, the argument is moot. Alias |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
Pete Stavrakoglou wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message ... snip With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen. Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe. False. Weak dollar. Highest budget and trade deficit in history. Most jobs are crap jobs at places like McDonald's. Over 40 million people without health insurance. The most prisoners and homeless in the developed world. The economy may be great for Exxon, Microsoft and Bush's buddies but not the average American. Tell the victims of hurricane Katrina how groovy the US economy is. And, when you're done, take a stroll through LA's South Central and tell them because neither of them have gotten the news. Alias |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
"Alias" wrote in message ... Pete Stavrakoglou wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... snip With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen. Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe. False. Weak dollar. Highest budget and trade deficit in history. Most jobs are crap jobs at places like McDonald's. Over 40 million people without health insurance. The most prisoners and homeless in the developed world. The economy may be great for Exxon, Microsoft and Bush's buddies but not the average American. Tell the victims of hurricane Katrina how groovy the US economy is. And, when you're done, take a stroll through LA's South Central and tell them because neither of them have gotten the news. Alias Do you have any actual facts to back up your wild accusations? You obviously have no clue. There are so many things wrong with your statements. |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
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Bob I thought we'd be interested in the following... Humm, that seems to be a common complaint. I don't think it's a complaint - it's a fact. Linux is a geeks OS. Prepackaged has it's costs. So, either learn to cook, or quit carping about the restaurant menu prices. Hey, i'm not complaining about the pricing! In fact - i have no immediate intention of changing to Vista, but if I did, pricing is pricing. UK vs USA pricing has always been a bone of contention with us Brits anyway; c'est la vie. XP works perfectly for me, but I will eventually get round to setting up a Linux box when I have time and can be bothered to ****-arse around with configuring it. -- My reply address is invalid. Please post replies to the group. Messages from Google Groups are set to auto ignore. |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
"Alias" wrote in message
... Pete Stavrakoglou wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... snip With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen. Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe. False. Weak dollar. Highest budget and trade deficit in history. Most jobs are crap jobs at places like McDonald's. Over 40 million people without health insurance. The most prisoners and homeless in the developed world. The economy may be great for Exxon, Microsoft and Bush's buddies but not the average American. Tell the victims of hurricane Katrina how groovy the US economy is. And, when you're done, take a stroll through LA's South Central and tell them because neither of them have gotten the news. Alias Are you an American? Those of us who are average Americans know differently than what you seem to think is the case. You couldn't be more wrong. BTW, what does the number of criminals in jail have to do with the strength of our economy. What are you smoking? |
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Eric wrote:
"Alias" wrote in message ... Pete Stavrakoglou wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... snip With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen. Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe. False. Weak dollar. Highest budget and trade deficit in history. Most jobs are crap jobs at places like McDonald's. Over 40 million people without health insurance. The most prisoners and homeless in the developed world. The economy may be great for Exxon, Microsoft and Bush's buddies but not the average American. Tell the victims of hurricane Katrina how groovy the US economy is. And, when you're done, take a stroll through LA's South Central and tell them because neither of them have gotten the news. Alias Do you have any actual facts to back up your wild accusations? What fact do you have trouble with? You obviously have no clue. Really? Please explain. There are so many things wrong with your statements. Name one. Alias |
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Boycott Vista in the UK!
Pete Stavrakoglou wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... Pete Stavrakoglou wrote: "Alias" wrote in message ... snip With Bush's fiscal and warring policies, that will never happen. Our economy is doing well, has been for years now. His policies aren't as bad as the press or whatever your source is would have you believe. False. Weak dollar. Highest budget and trade deficit in history. Most jobs are crap jobs at places like McDonald's. Over 40 million people without health insurance. The most prisoners and homeless in the developed world. The economy may be great for Exxon, Microsoft and Bush's buddies but not the average American. Tell the victims of hurricane Katrina how groovy the US economy is. And, when you're done, take a stroll through LA's South Central and tell them because neither of them have gotten the news. Alias Are you an American? Those of us who are average Americans know differently than what you seem to think is the case. You couldn't be more wrong. BTW, what does the number of criminals in jail have to do with the strength of our economy. What are you smoking? EX-patriate would be the word that polite folks use. |
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