Bypass Welcome Start-Up Screen

On 6/17/2014 1:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

| The no-password-skip-logon-screen trick relies upon defining only one
| user account. A blank password means you cannot use several features of
| Windows. If you're willing to sacrifice those features, never define
| accounts for other users or for other uses, and don't care about the
| security of your host then use a blank password. You also don't need to
| use the lock your house or car to let you can enter and exit without
| encumbrance, and so can everyone else.
|

But you can lock your house and still unlock your computer.

So how does that analogy apply? I was equating the house or car with
the computer, not something you lock inside your house or car. Why do
you lock your house? To limit access to your stuff inside.

People who work in corporate environments often don't understand
the priorities of most SOHo users.

I take it you aren't dating or married, definitely have no kids, never
have parties, or that you also lock your computer den's door.

Yes, ot is often more important to lock your computer at work than at
home. Workers are often in open cubicles with lots of people moving
around, cleaning crews coming in after hours, people there on shifts
when you're not there. If you live alone and live a lonely life then,
yes, you don't care about physical access to your computer by someone
else while relying on the locked door.

I live with my lady friend and trust her not to steal any top
secret data from my computer.

How could there be any "secret data" on your unprotected computer? If
you're using encrypted containers or whole-disk encryption then you've
substituted or added that protection beyond using a password. In fact,
using encryption means you are more paranoid than someone that only uses
a password. Order of protection strength (and of paranoia), low to
high: telling or trusting someone not to use your computer, a locked
door, OS password, BIOS password, encryption, and layering of multiple
protections.

Alas, reality shows people split up and unfortunately not always on
graceful terms. Talk to some divorcees about losing their computer in a
settlement. Presumably you don't have and don't plan on having kids.
So is the computer room door lockable for when you have friends over?

There are reasons to lock down the system, but those
reasons don't apply to everyone.

Yep, just what I said, too. "If you ... don't care about the security
of your host then use a blank password." I didn't go into how to secure
the environ in which the host resides as that is not an issue with
securing the host itself. Relying on a locked door simply moves the
protection outward from the non-passworded computer. Adding protection
around your house or car lets you leave the house or car unlocked, too.
Do you lock your car inside that locked garage? Some folks do but you
imply you wouldn't. The locked garage is enough protection for you.
You use the locked garage in lieu of locking the car. You replaced one
lock with another. If the environ inside is safe, the outer lock may be
sufficient.

Wow! I have no interest in getting personal or anything. But I am
interested in what size town/city your experience is from. I grew up
partly in a city with millions and partly where I live now in rural area
in the middle of nowhere. My father was from here and we stayed at both
places.

While that huge city has great things that one would miss, I would
rather be were I am at now. Here you could leave your keys in the car
unlocked and never lock your doors to your house. Heck I don't even know
if I could find the keys to the doors if I wanted to. But in small
places like where I live, if one person knows something, everybody else
knows it too. So you can't hide anything really. Totally different than
in a big city.

I don't live in town or anything and there is one big small town like
40,000 or something close by. And I checked online about this since most
of us leave cars unlocked and keys in the car, how many thieves are
there? And there was like 10 a year and they were mostly from couple
breakups. Well no wonder people leave cars unlocked and keys in the car
here. Try that in the heart of a big city and the odds are in is gone in
less than 2 minutes. And no, nobody knows anything or can tell you
anything about it either in a big city.

--
Bill
Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Kingston 120GB SSD - Thunderbird v24.4.0
Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center

BillW50 wrote:

On 6/17/2014 1:01 PM, VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

| The no-password-skip-logon-screen trick relies upon defining only one
| user account. A blank password means you cannot use several features of
| Windows. If you're willing to sacrifice those features, never define
| accounts for other users or for other uses, and don't care about the
| security of your host then use a blank password. You also don't need to
| use the lock your house or car to let you can enter and exit without
| encumbrance, and so can everyone else.
|

But you can lock your house and still unlock your computer.

So how does that analogy apply? I was equating the house or car with
the computer, not something you lock inside your house or car. Why do
you lock your house? To limit access to your stuff inside.

People who work in corporate environments often don't understand
the priorities of most SOHo users.

I take it you aren't dating or married, definitely have no kids, never
have parties, or that you also lock your computer den's door.

Yes, ot is often more important to lock your computer at work than at
home. Workers are often in open cubicles with lots of people moving
around, cleaning crews coming in after hours, people there on shifts
when you're not there. If you live alone and live a lonely life then,
yes, you don't care about physical access to your computer by someone
else while relying on the locked door.

I live with my lady friend and trust her not to steal any top
secret data from my computer.

How could there be any "secret data" on your unprotected computer? If
you're using encrypted containers or whole-disk encryption then you've
substituted or added that protection beyond using a password. In fact,
using encryption means you are more paranoid than someone that only uses
a password. Order of protection strength (and of paranoia), low to
high: telling or trusting someone not to use your computer, a locked
door, OS password, BIOS password, encryption, and layering of multiple
protections.

Alas, reality shows people split up and unfortunately not always on
graceful terms. Talk to some divorcees about losing their computer in a
settlement. Presumably you don't have and don't plan on having kids.
So is the computer room door lockable for when you have friends over?

There are reasons to lock down the system, but those
reasons don't apply to everyone.

Yep, just what I said, too. "If you ... don't care about the security
of your host then use a blank password." I didn't go into how to secure
the environ in which the host resides as that is not an issue with
securing the host itself. Relying on a locked door simply moves the
protection outward from the non-passworded computer. Adding protection
around your house or car lets you leave the house or car unlocked, too.
Do you lock your car inside that locked garage? Some folks do but you
imply you wouldn't. The locked garage is enough protection for you.
You use the locked garage in lieu of locking the car. You replaced one
lock with another. If the environ inside is safe, the outer lock may be
sufficient.

Wow! I have no interest in getting personal or anything. But I am
interested in what size town/city your experience is from. I grew up
partly in a city with millions and partly where I live now in rural area
in the middle of nowhere. My father was from here and we stayed at both
places.

While that huge city has great things that one would miss, I would
rather be were I am at now. Here you could leave your keys in the car
unlocked and never lock your doors to your house. Heck I don't even know
if I could find the keys to the doors if I wanted to. But in small
places like where I live, if one person knows something, everybody else
knows it too. So you can't hide anything really. Totally different than
in a big city.

I don't live in town or anything and there is one big small town like
40,000 or something close by. And I checked online about this since most
of us leave cars unlocked and keys in the car, how many thieves are
there? And there was like 10 a year and they were mostly from couple
breakups. Well no wonder people leave cars unlocked and keys in the car
here. Try that in the heart of a big city and the odds are in is gone in
less than 2 minutes. And no, nobody knows anything or can tell you
anything about it either in a big city.

Yep, you can replace low population density or high distance from
populated areas as a lock. I don't lock my tent when camping in the
deep woods or the cabin in my boat when scuba diving.

VanguardLH wrote:
Mayayana wrote:

| The no-password-skip-logon-screen trick relies upon defining only one
| user account. A blank password means you cannot use several features of
| Windows. If you're willing to sacrifice those features, never define
| accounts for other users or for other uses, and don't care about the
| security of your host then use a blank password. You also don't need to
| use the lock your house or car to let you can enter and exit without
| encumbrance, and so can everyone else.
|

But you can lock your house and still unlock your computer.

So how does that analogy apply? I was equating the house or car with
the computer, not something you lock inside your house or car. Why do
you lock your house? To limit access to your stuff inside.

People who work in corporate environments often don't understand
the priorities of most SOHo users.

I take it you aren't dating or married, definitely have no kids, never
have parties, or that you also lock your computer den's door.

Yes, ot is often more important to lock your computer at work than at
home. Workers are often in open cubicles with lots of people moving
around, cleaning crews coming in after hours, people there on shifts
when you're not there. If you live alone and live a lonely life then,
yes, you don't care about physical access to your computer by someone
else while relying on the locked door.

I don't live alone or lead a lonely life, but I don't lock my computer
either (except physically, to the desk). It has a Windows password (to
enable network functions and task scheduling) but I have it configured
to log on automatically. And that's ignoring the fact that I leave it
switched on 24 hours a day so you wouldn't need to log on anyway.

FWIW I don't have a PIN on my phone either.

Like Mayayana said, people's priorities differ.

--
Mike Barnes
Cheshire, England

| I live with my lady friend and trust her not to steal any top
| secret data from my computer. If anyone ever breaks in I
| expect they'll steal my computer before they steal my
| software code or family pictures. So there's really no reason
| for me to put up with the inconvenience of passwords and
| lackey user limitations every time I boot.
|
| Among the most entertaining acts in every circus are the aerialists who
perform
| without nets! I say, all the more power to you!
|

I don't feel nearly so daring.
Daring would be enabling script in the browser.

| | The no-password-skip-logon-screen trick relies upon defining only one
| | user account. A blank password means you cannot use several features
of
| | Windows. If you're willing to sacrifice those features, never define
| | accounts for other users or for other uses, and don't care about the
| | security of your host then use a blank password. You also don't need
to
| | use the lock your house or car to let you can enter and exit without
| | encumbrance, and so can everyone else.
| |
|
| But you can lock your house and still unlock your computer.
|

The point I was getting at was that you were conflating
all sorts of reckless behavior with simply not using a password.
You didn't put it in context at all. Many people don't need
passwords. Your methods probably work well for you, but
you're passing judgement on other peoples' methods without
knowing their situation.
The idea of locking your house is also a good analogy for the
difference between corporate and SOHo computers. SOHo
people are best served by locking the front door and leaving
the inside of the house open. Corporate computers are usually
on a network and employees have limited rights. Their front
door is unlocked, but every door and cabinet in the builing
requires authorization to open.

| People who work in corporate environments often don't understand
| the priorities of most SOHo users.
|
| I take it you aren't dating or married, definitely have no kids, never
| have parties, or that you also lock your computer den's door.
|

Yikes. I can only imagine what sort of family
and friends you have. You lock down your
computer so they can't get at it?

| If you live alone and live a lonely life then,
| yes, you don't care about physical access to your computer by someone
| else while relying on the locked door.
|

There you go again, defining non-lockdown as an extreme
approach. I don't know anyone who uses a password on
their computer. They're not all anti-social loners who leave
their front door open, keys in the car, and are just waiting
to die.

Mayayana wrote:

Yikes. I can only imagine what sort of family and friends you have.
You lock down your computer so they can't get at it?

Yep, since it not their toy then they're supposed to touch it when
visiting. I don't go running around to keep tabs on them all. I also
lockup my rifles and pistols and even the ammo. No touchie!

On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 15:45:45 -0500, G. Morgan
wrote:

Dave C wrote:

I am the only user of this (with No admin) account, for my Win 7 PC

Is there a way I can bypass the need to Click on my User name, to
stat Windows, each time I boot-up? (Sorry, but I do not know the tech
name for that start up screen). Ideally, I would like to boot directly
into Windows.


http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials...y-startup.html

Thanks to all of the repsondents, your advise was most useful.

BTW I have no concern that someone will take advantage of my modified
log-in. Previously, all one had to do was click on my account, at the
Welcome Screen (PW Blank). Surely there was no underlying security,
with that prior configuaration