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Old October 21st 10, 09:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Darth Raider
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My question is does anyone know how to change settings to where a file name
can be as long as you need it to be In other words some files I have when I
go to rename them I can only put so much of the file name in when renaming
before running out of room, Anyway to fix that without shortening the name?


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Old October 21st 10, 10:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:45:55 -0400, "Darth Raider" supernatural.net
wrote:

My question is does anyone know how to change settings to where a file name
can be as long as you need it to be In other words some files I have when I
go to rename them I can only put so much of the file name in when renaming
before running out of room, Anyway to fix that without shortening the name?


I don't think you can. What length were you hoping for?

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Old October 22nd 10, 01:21 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bob I
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On 10/21/2010 15:45, Darth Raider wrote:
My question is does anyone know how to change settings to where a file
name can be as long as you need it to be In other words some files I
have when I go to rename them I can only put so much of the file name in
when renaming before running out of room, Anyway to fix that without
shortening the name?


If you can't name a file in 235 characters, you need to re-evaluate
your file naming method.
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Old October 22nd 10, 02:08 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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"Darth Raider" supernatural.net wrote:

My question is does anyone know how to change settings to where a file name
can be as long as you need it to be In other words some files I have when I
go to rename them I can only put so much of the file name in when renaming
before running out of room, Anyway to fix that without shortening the name?


Wikipedia's article on NTFS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS) gives
the maximum file name length as 255 UTF-16 code units. That's it, no
exceptions. And if you actually have a file name that long, you will
doubtless run into problems with some programs that can't handle
extremely long paths.

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Old October 28th 10, 02:45 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article om, "Darth
Raider" says...

My question is does anyone know how to change settings to where a file name
can be as long as you need it to be In other words some files I have when I
go to rename them I can only put so much of the file name in when renaming
before running out of room, Anyway to fix that without shortening the name?


Like others have and will tell you, you're making a serious mistake if
you need longer file names to properly group your files - in fact, if
your file name is longer than 20 characters I would say you're making a
mistake.

I've seen file names like "Dr. Smith, P.HD., CERT I, CERT II, Bio,
DOC.DOCX"

It's amazing that microsoft permits this kind of crap when that file
name would have violated any reasonable standard years ago.

There is no reason to allow more than 1 period and certainly not any
punctuation in file names - it should be limited to Letters, Numbers,
and the Underscore character (to be used in place of a space).

There are so many things that don't work well with punctuation.

We had a firewall that blocked files sent by a web hosting provider, log
reports - something like this "Webcompany.com, your report.xls.pdf" -
the firewall saw it as a .COM file attachment and blocked it (which is
reasonable), but the tripple extension crap is just plain bad.

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Old October 29th 10, 12:56 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Bob I
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On 10/28/2010 08:45, Leythos wrote:
In raweb.com, "Darth
Raider" says...

My question is does anyone know how to change settings to where a file name
can be as long as you need it to be In other words some files I have when I
go to rename them I can only put so much of the file name in when renaming
before running out of room, Anyway to fix that without shortening the name?


Like others have and will tell you, you're making a serious mistake if
you need longer file names to properly group your files - in fact, if
your file name is longer than 20 characters I would say you're making a
mistake.

I've seen file names like "Dr. Smith, P.HD., CERT I, CERT II, Bio,
DOC.DOCX"

It's amazing that microsoft permits this kind of crap when that file
name would have violated any reasonable standard years ago.

There is no reason to allow more than 1 period and certainly not any
punctuation in file names - it should be limited to Letters, Numbers,
and the Underscore character (to be used in place of a space).

There are so many things that don't work well with punctuation.

We had a firewall that blocked files sent by a web hosting provider, log
reports - something like this "Webcompany.com, your report.xls.pdf" -
the firewall saw it as a .COM file attachment and blocked it (which is
reasonable), but the tripple extension crap is just plain bad.


Along that line, you should see some of the weird problems caused by
people using apostrophes in folder names.
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Old October 29th 10, 11:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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In article ,
says...
I'm not sure which OS actually started the 8.3 pattern. Maybe it was

CP/M,
the predecessor of MS-DOS. But the pattern persisted until Long File Names
(LFN) became available in the 90's. I'm too lazy to look it up, but it was
about MS-DOS 6.2. Even after LFNs were allowed, though, MS-DOS created a
Short File Name (SFN), also known as an 8.3 filename, for any LFN that did
not meet the SFN rules. Even today, in a Command Prompt window, we can use
the Dir command (from before Directories became Folders) with the /x switch
to see a directory with a column of SFNs before the column of LFNs.


I believe LFN's on FAT partitions were introduced with NT 3.1 or 3.5. I
believe HPFS and NTFS always supported long names. I think some later
DOS's and Windows 3.1 had some basic support, or at least wouldn't
mangle the bizarre way they were stored in the directory. It was Windows
95 that fully supported it, but only when Windows was running. Support
was again minimal if you exited to DOS mode (not a DOS prompt.)

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