Identifying CD

In article ,
says...

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.

I use Lightscribe for a personal music cd of myself that I give to
friends. In another case it's a video series I wanted to give as gifts.
In both cases people usually think it's "commercially" done.

For data backup, I often have to much on disk and am forced to instead
create a listing of disks contents I printout and include with disk.

On 5/13/2014 4:27 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.

Out of curiosity, how much data do you wish to send? How many
megabytes?

It is not that much. Most of the time only a couple of gb.

The problem is that the places she sends it, do not know, and may not
trust mail. The only way they will accept the information is on a CD.

We went through this about 10 years ago, only then they wanted slides
photos. Toward the end before they changed, we had to go all over
Indianapolis to first find slide film and then find someone to develop it.

My wife paints on canvas with acrylic paints. Once the painting is
finished, I take digital photographs. She then submits the paintings to
art galleries, or art associations to convince them to show her work.
Unfortunately these are not Big City organizations, but local galleries
and organization. If you want them to show your work, and they will
only accept examples on CD, if you want your work displayed you submit
your work on CD's. Right now she has about 20 pieces in the Smithfield
NC Chamber of Commerce, (I don't believe she submitted a CD for this)

I suspect that in a half dozen years they will realized they can get the
examples by email, and CD will go the way of the slides.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 17:11:46 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 4:27 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.

Out of curiosity, how much data do you wish to send? How many
megabytes?

It is not that much. Most of the time only a couple of gb.

The problem is that the places she sends it, do not know, and may not
trust mail. The only way they will accept the information is on a CD.

We went through this about 10 years ago, only then they wanted slides
photos. Toward the end before they changed, we had to go all over
Indianapolis to first find slide film and then find someone to develop it.

My wife paints on canvas with acrylic paints. Once the painting is
finished, I take digital photographs. She then submits the paintings to
art galleries, or art associations to convince them to show her work.
Unfortunately these are not Big City organizations, but local galleries
and organization. If you want them to show your work, and they will
only accept examples on CD, if you want your work displayed you submit
your work on CD's. Right now she has about 20 pieces in the Smithfield
NC Chamber of Commerce, (I don't believe she submitted a CD for this)

I suspect that in a half dozen years they will realized they can get the
examples by email, and CD will go the way of the slides.


I wonder if they would peruse her work if posted on a website? You
could even password protect the site. Setting up a beautiful gallery
of her work on a free Wordpress site would not require a massive
amount of education or work.

The ability to add, subtract and modify her portfolio, not to mention
the elimination of burning and mailing digital coasters would make
this sound very appealing to me.

Just a different way to get the mule to walk down the canyon.

In article , R. C.
White writes
3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can do it.
They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably special
inks.

My HP Photosmart D5460 prints disc perfectly, there's a drop down drawer
and a cassette to put the disc in, this slides under the print heads so
no need to go round in the same way paper does, it's all lined up
automatically. The software that came with the printer can be used to
design simple labels or you can drop in a pre designed one from a more
professional application.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

On 5/13/2014 5:30 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
I wonder if they would peruse her work if posted on a website? You
could even password protect the site. Setting up a beautiful gallery
of her work on a free Wordpress site would not require a massive
amount of education or work.

We can only hope that some day they will. There are many ways that
could proceed but they have to convince themselves they are not loosing
any thing with the new methods

Even though they are now accepting electronic images on CD, I still have
to work around the requirement that the digital image be X DPI. I
cheat on this as I don't think that some no the difference, and if the
image looks good they accept it.

Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:
On Tue, 13 May 2014 08:14:09 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in articlelkt2aj$obp$1
@speranza.aioe.org

I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.

I can not believe that my wife is the only one in this world who send
out disk with examples of there work, that require a professional
looking disk, BUT I find out she is.

I scanned one of my old printed CD's and uploaded to Flickr. Pulled
it out of my truck where it has lived for several years. Still looks
the same.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/83195184@N02/14201253353/

--
 GW Ross 

 We are born naked, wet and hungry. 
 Then things get worse. 

On Tue, 13 May 2014 16:15:15 -0400 "Keith Nuttle"
wrote in article lktugi$egu$1
@speranza.aioe.org

On 5/13/2014 2:57 PM, Jason wrote:

I have two Epson inkjets with that feature. They work well. Here's
another - I have no experience with this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Epson-Artisan-Inkjet-Printer-
C11CA45201/dp/B00275G08W



Thanks for all of the responses.

From what I get from all of the post, all methods for Identifying disk
are either something you would not present to a customer with examples
of your work, or either dead or dying.


The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You
can include images as background if you want. They come with a servicable
program for making labels; better ones are available but are not free. I
record chamber groups and produce CD's that all think look just fine. The
inkjet-writable CD's cost a couple of cents more than the ordinary ones.
I used Taiyo-Yuden blanks because I've never burned a bad one. I've begun
including a tiny QR code on the CD's that links to the performers'
websites.

Jason

...and no, they don't smear

Aha! I haven't looked at one of those. Thanks, Mike.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX

Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3528.0331) in Win8.1 Pro with Media
Center


"Mike Swift" wrote in message ...

In article , R. C.
White writes
3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can
do it.
They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably
special
inks.

My HP Photosmart D5460 prints disc perfectly, there's a drop down drawer
and a cassette to put the disc in, this slides under the print heads so
no need to go round in the same way paper does, it's all lined up
automatically. The software that came with the printer can be used to
design simple labels or you can drop in a pre designed one from a more
professional application.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

In article ,
Jason writes
The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You can
include images as background if you want. They come with a servicable
program for making labels; better ones are available but are not free. I
record chamber groups and produce CD's that all think look just fine. The
inkjet-writable CD's cost a couple of cents more than the ordinary ones. I
used Taiyo-Yuden blanks because I've never burned a bad one. I've begun
including a tiny QR code on the CD's that links to the performers' websites.

I hate Epson, they do indeed print great results but I've just sent a
new one to the recycle dump. I tried a full set of genuine carts for £60
($100), I thought this was a bit expensive so got a set of compatibles,
it wouldn't even let me print as it didn't recognise them, my HP on the
other hand complains that they aren't genuine but at least lets me use
them.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

In article , R. C.
White writes
Aha! I haven't looked at one of those. Thanks, Mike.

It's a bit long in the tooth but it may still be available somewhere, or
there may be a more recent model from HP.

Mike

--
Michael Swift We do not regard Englishmen as foreigners.
Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
Yorkshire Halvard Lange

Keith Nuttle said on 5/13/2014 12:18 PM:
On 5/13/2014 10:35 AM, Big Al wrote:

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However
in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)

This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/





Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit, but
my old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420,
Multifunction, did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got it
home was so so happy and surprised to see the feature was there. I
have a couple 100 printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of
theirs as well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm



From the link you must be printing your CD labels and then appling them
to the CD.

Do you do it frequently, and have you had any problems.


At one time they warned against appling labels to CD because it would
cause problems at the speed the CD spins.

No, I have stopped printing labels, I print on printable Cd's now.

Linea Recta said on 5/13/2014 12:22 PM:
"Big Al" schreef in bericht
eb.com...

Mike Swift said on 5/13/2014 10:19 AM:
In article , Keith Nuttle
writes
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support
of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD. However
in my
search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable CD. Has that
technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker
is not
acceptable.)

This may help :-

http://www.avforums.com/threads/inkj...d-dvd.1542228/




Mike

Looking at boxes or Newegg etc you have to hunt for the info a bit,
but my old Canon ip4000 died and I bought another Canon MG5420,
Multifunction, did not see CD in the list of features, but when I got
it home was so so happy and surprised to see the feature was there.
I have a couple 100 printables CD/DVD's.

I bought this software http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/ years ago
and I notice it says supports lightscribe. Also see this link of
theirs as well as the avforums link.
http://acoustica.com/cd-label-maker/...se-support.htm





I wonder is this printing technique on CD durable? Isn't the text easily
wiped off with wet or greasy fingers?




Works great for me. You do have to give them a few minutes to dry of
course. I've never put them in water to test that effect. And I try
to only handle by the center hole.

Keith Nuttle said on 5/13/2014 8:14 AM:
I have been using Lightscribe to Identify my CD. Then HP stopped
support of that technique. Then some one developed printable CD.
However in my search for a new printer, none seems to handle printable
CD. Has that technology been thrown on to the scrap heap also?

If so are there any other professional ways to ID CD? (magic marker is
not acceptable.)
Speaking of the devil. Good article today I found.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technolog...urce=howtogeek

Mike Swift said on 5/14/2014 7:01 AM:
In article ,
Jason writes
The Epson printers produce beautiful results - fully professional. You
can
include images as background if you want. They come with a servicable
program for making labels; better ones are available but are not free. I
record chamber groups and produce CD's that all think look just fine. The
inkjet-writable CD's cost a couple of cents more than the ordinary
ones. I
used Taiyo-Yuden blanks because I've never burned a bad one. I've begun
including a tiny QR code on the CD's that links to the performers'
websites.

I hate Epson, they do indeed print great results but I've just sent a
new one to the recycle dump. I tried a full set of genuine carts for £60
($100), I thought this was a bit expensive so got a set of compatibles,
it wouldn't even let me print as it didn't recognise them, my HP on the
other hand complains that they aren't genuine but at least lets me use
them.

Mike

Go Canon. They are one vendor that makes 3 separate color ink tanks,
making it less expensive to just change one ink when low.
CD printing printers are not that hard to find. Yes the CD's are a bit
more expensive, but I've got CD's that look just like the original.
And cites like http://www.cdcovers.cc/covers have a huge already made
covers for almost any software or product. And there are a ton of
design programs. Hell I used to design in power point before I found a
good program.

On Tue, 13 May 2014 23:44:45 +0100, Mike Swift wrote:

In article , R. C.
White writes
3. You mentioned "printable CD". Print directly onto the surface of the
disk? I think I've heard of such, but I've never seen a printer that can do it.
They would need a straight-through paper path because the disks don't
bend very well, with rollers set for very thick media - and probably special
inks.

My HP Photosmart D5460 prints disc perfectly, there's a drop down drawer
and a cassette to put the disc in, this slides under the print heads so
no need to go round in the same way paper does, it's all lined up
automatically. The software that came with the printer can be used to
design simple labels or you can drop in a pre designed one from a more
professional application.

Mike

These two printers will print on Printable optical disks:

Epson XP-800
Brother MFC-J875DW

They use the same ink cartridges that are already in the printer.

Others in the same families should do the same.

--
Gene E. Bloch (Stumbling Bloch)