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Old July 1st 14, 09:36 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be viewed
from anywhere with internet access.
Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via home
wi-fi.
Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows or
Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?
I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is supposed to
simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.
DVR manual and Swann support page doesn't seem to cover this at all.
Any advice appreciated, especially from anyone using one of these systems.

Kenny Cargill

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Old July 1st 14, 11:44 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
Philip Herlihy[_2_]
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In article ,
says...

Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be viewed
from anywhere with internet access.
Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via home
wi-fi.
Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows or
Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?
I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is supposed to
simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.
DVR manual and Swann support page doesn't seem to cover this at all.
Any advice appreciated, especially from anyone using one of these systems.

Kenny Cargill


Can't help with the specifics, but, in general you need to connect to
your home router, and the router must have been configured to route the
connection through to the CCTV system. That means you need a Dynamic
DNS facility (DDNS: tick) which gives you a domain name (actually a sub
domain) which tracks your changing IP address. Secondly, you need to
configure your router to "port forward" incoming connections to the
right machine. Portforward.com may help you with this, or your router's
documentation.

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Old July 1st 14, 03:47 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:36:38 +0100, wrote:

Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be viewed
from anywhere with internet access.


The interwebs say that Swann makes a bunch of CCTV stuff. Swann 2 wasn't
enough info for me to narrow it down, or perhaps I gave up too quickly.

Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via home
wi-fi.


The common theme so far seems to be that you're using applications provided
by Swann, whether it's Linkview or Swannview.

Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows or
Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?


Do they say you need to use a browser? What happens if you simply continue
to use your Linkview application?

I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is supposed to
simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.


My guess (tm) is that the DVR opens a connection to the Swann portal and you
simply access your account through there, using the standard Linkview or
Swannview applications.

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Char Jackson
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Old July 1st 14, 04:07 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Charles Lindbergh
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:36:38 +0100, wrote:

Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be viewed
from anywhere with internet access.
Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via home
wi-fi.
Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows or
Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?
I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is supposed to
simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.
DVR manual and Swann support page doesn't seem to cover this at all.
Any advice appreciated, especially from anyone using one of these systems.

Kenny Cargill


The Swann DVR is the equivalent of a computer server. The DVR server
app must be accessed via specific TCP or UDP ports (Probably TCP).

You need to establish the IP address of your DVR, then, in the router,
under advanced configuration / port forwarding (or some such language)
you need to open the required port to the IP address of the DVR.

Once you have done that, using the public IP address of your home
network, you should be able to connect to the DVR. If the DVR allows
for browser access (most do), you would connect by entering (in the
remote browser address bar) your home IP followed by a colon and then
the port number. e.g. ###.###.###.###:8082 (assuming your home IP
address is IPv4).

This is an overly simplistic explanation of what must be done. If you
can post a link to the Swann DVR manual and the exact make and model
of your home router, we can provide you with detailed instructions.
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Old July 1st 14, 06:54 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Paul
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wrote:
Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be
viewed from anywhere with internet access.
Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via
home wi-fi.
Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows
or Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?
I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is
supposed to simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.
DVR manual and Swann support page doesn't seem to cover this at all.
Any advice appreciated, especially from anyone using one of these systems.

Kenny Cargill


The only thing I'll add is, "Yes, Port Forwarding helps".

And don't trust these IP camera makers further than you
can throw them. If you expose a camera via port forwarding,
it can be hacked from the outside (depending on how
stupid the implementation is).

I'd really be surprised if you had enough "up-link"
bandwidth for this. Once you do your first WAN-side
test, I guess you'll know for sure. My so-called "5Mbit/sec
ADSL", offers me a grand total of 50KB/sec up-link
speed. I can't even video Skype on that, let alone
run surveillance over it.

Paul
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Old July 1st 14, 07:03 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Charles Lindbergh
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On Tue, 01 Jul 2014 13:54:25 -0400, Paul wrote:

wrote:
Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be
viewed from anywhere with internet access.
Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via
home wi-fi.
Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows
or Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?
I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is
supposed to simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.
DVR manual and Swann support page doesn't seem to cover this at all.
Any advice appreciated, especially from anyone using one of these systems.

Kenny Cargill


The only thing I'll add is, "Yes, Port Forwarding helps".

And don't trust these IP camera makers further than you
can throw them. If you expose a camera via port forwarding,
it can be hacked from the outside (depending on how
stupid the implementation is).

I'd really be surprised if you had enough "up-link"
bandwidth for this. Once you do your first WAN-side
test, I guess you'll know for sure. My so-called "5Mbit/sec
ADSL", offers me a grand total of 50KB/sec up-link
speed. I can't even video Skype on that, let alone
run surveillance over it.

Paul


You don't want to expose the cameras beyond the LAN, you want to
expose the server a.k.a. DVR. As for bandwidth, simply adjust the
quality of the image and the frames per second and you can easily
adapt even to a 512k upstream bandwidth for 3 - 4 cameras.
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Old July 1st 14, 07:17 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Thanks for the replies, Swann model is DVR4 1245, user manual he
http://swann.com/downloads/New_FTP/D...80513E_web.pdf
Modem/router is ZyXEL AMG1302-T10A, no model specific manual available but
same as:
ftp://ftp2.zyxel.com/AMG1312-T10B/us...312-T10B_1.pdf
Putting myusername.swanndvr.net into browser address bar takes me to "web
based configurator" for router, same as 192.168.1.1 locally.
I don't see an option there to manually enter details for Swann DVR portal,
it only shows www.dyndns.org under Dynamic DNS with no option to change
that.

Kenny

"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 09:36:38 +0100, wrote:

Just bought a Swann 2 camera home CCTV/DVR system, blurb says can be
viewed
from anywhere with internet access.
Desktop using Swann Linkview & Win 7, DVR hard wired to router, OK there.
HP Notebook using Swann Linkview & Win 7, OK there via home wi-fi.
10" Archos Tablet using Swannview app and Android 4.0.24, OK there via home
wi-fi.
Question is how do I access it from outside my home network via Windows or
Android? What do I put in the browser address bar?
I believe I have DDNS, e-mail etc. correctly set in the DVR, tests there
show successful, have registered with Swann DDNS portal which is supposed
to
simplify things but I have no idea what to do next.
DVR manual and Swann support page doesn't seem to cover this at all.
Any advice appreciated, especially from anyone using one of these systems.

Kenny Cargill


The Swann DVR is the equivalent of a computer server. The DVR server
app must be accessed via specific TCP or UDP ports (Probably TCP).

You need to establish the IP address of your DVR, then, in the router,
under advanced configuration / port forwarding (or some such language)
you need to open the required port to the IP address of the DVR.

Once you have done that, using the public IP address of your home
network, you should be able to connect to the DVR. If the DVR allows
for browser access (most do), you would connect by entering (in the
remote browser address bar) your home IP followed by a colon and then
the port number. e.g. ###.###.###.###:8082 (assuming your home IP
address is IPv4).

This is an overly simplistic explanation of what must be done. If you
can post a link to the Swann DVR manual and the exact make and model
of your home router, we can provide you with detailed instructions.

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Old July 1st 14, 08:50 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Charles Lindbergh
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:17:35 +0100, wrote:

Thanks for the replies, Swann model is DVR4 1245, user manual he
http://swann.com/downloads/New_FTP/D...80513E_web.pdf
Modem/router is ZyXEL AMG1302-T10A, no model specific manual available but
same as:
ftp://ftp2.zyxel.com/AMG1312-T10B/us...312-T10B_1.pdf
Putting myusername.swanndvr.net into browser address bar takes me to "web
based configurator" for router, same as 192.168.1.1 locally.
I don't see an option there to manually enter details for Swann DVR portal,
it only shows www.dyndns.org under Dynamic DNS with no option to change
that.

Kenny


OK Kenny, I just got back from dealing with an abscessed tooth so I
will take a look at the manuals you sent in a little while. I might
even be nice as they prescribed some narcotics for the pain.......
:-)
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Old July 1st 14, 10:55 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Char Jackson
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:17:35 +0100, wrote:

Thanks for the replies, Swann model is DVR4 1245, user manual he
http://swann.com/downloads/New_FTP/D...80513E_web.pdf
Modem/router is ZyXEL AMG1302-T10A, no model specific manual available but
same as:
ftp://ftp2.zyxel.com/AMG1312-T10B/us...312-T10B_1.pdf
Putting myusername.swanndvr.net into browser address bar takes me to "web
based configurator" for router, same as 192.168.1.1 locally.
I don't see an option there to manually enter details for Swann DVR portal,
it only shows www.dyndns.org under Dynamic DNS with no option to change
that.



Lower part of page 12:

///
For remote access (i.e. a device connected via the Internet), you’ll need to
manually forward ports on your router
..
See “Addendum: Third Party Hardware” on page 55 for more information.
If you don’t know how to manually address devices and don’t have access to
someone who does, you may want to consider
upgrading your router - we think that DHCP and UPnP are neat features that
are well worth having.
There’s heaps more information on IP Addresses, DHCP, UPnP and all manner of
remote access information later in this booklet.
In addition to “Addendum: Third Party Hardware” on page 55, have a look at
“Network: General” on page 37 and have a word
with whoever set up your network - they might be able to help you.
///

So the information you need is on pages 12, 37, and 55, and you *WILL* have
to forward ports if your router doesn't do uPNP.

Bottom line, it's extremely straightforward, but it may not be automatic.

--

Char Jackson
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Old July 1st 14, 11:00 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Charles Lindbergh
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On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:17:35 +0100, wrote:

Kenny, I am going to assume you have some basic knowledge of
networking, routers, etc. If you need more information than I give
you, please ask.

Connect your NVR (network video recorder) to your router. The NVR
should automatically obtain an IP address from the router. You can
determine the NVR IP by logging into the machine interface per the
instruction manual. In addition to the IP address, see if you can
also find the MAC address for the NVR.

Now, log into the router and refer to the instructions on page 119 of
the router manual, The Static DHCP screen. You want to create a new
static lease for the NVR.

Once you have created the a lease for the NVR, go to page 149 - 151 of
the router manual.

You need to create two user defined port forwarding rules. This will
open the communication ports between the NVR and the Internet.

Rule one:

Name: Swann9k

external port 9000 (start and end)

server ip (this is the IP address of the NVR which you determined
earlier)

Protocol (set it to all, although you probably only need TCP)

Open start and end port = 9000

Save it and now create a second rule

Rule two:

Name: Swann85

External port 85 (start and end)

Server ip (IP of your NVR)

Protocol = all

Open Start and end port = 85

Save it.


Now, using a browser from anywhere outside of your network, enter
either your public IP address or the ddns address you setup (per the
swann instruction manual) e.g. kenny.swann.org:85 or
123.123.123.123:85

The above should connect to your NVR where you will have to enter a
username and password to gain access.

ALSO, it appears that Swann provides an application you can install on
a remote computer which can access the NVR using port 9000.


This should be more than enough to get you started.
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Old July 2nd 14, 09:48 AM posted to alt.windows7.general
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On 7/1/2014 6:00 PM, Charles Lindbergh wrote:
On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:17:35 +0100, wrote:

Kenny, I am going to assume you have some basic knowledge of
networking, routers, etc. If you need more information than I give
you, please ask.

Connect your NVR (network video recorder) to your router. The NVR
should automatically obtain an IP address from the router. You can
determine the NVR IP by logging into the machine interface per the
instruction manual. In addition to the IP address, see if you can
also find the MAC address for the NVR.

Now, log into the router and refer to the instructions on page 119 of
the router manual, The Static DHCP screen. You want to create a new
static lease for the NVR.

Once you have created the a lease for the NVR, go to page 149 - 151 of
the router manual.

You need to create two user defined port forwarding rules. This will
open the communication ports between the NVR and the Internet.

Rule one:

Name: Swann9k

external port 9000 (start and end)

server ip (this is the IP address of the NVR which you determined
earlier)

Protocol (set it to all, although you probably only need TCP)

Open start and end port = 9000

Save it and now create a second rule

Rule two:

Name: Swann85

External port 85 (start and end)

Server ip (IP of your NVR)

Protocol = all

Open Start and end port = 85

Save it.


Now, using a browser from anywhere outside of your network, enter
either your public IP address or the ddns address you setup (per the
swann instruction manual) e.g. kenny.swann.org:85 or
123.123.123.123:85

The above should connect to your NVR where you will have to enter a
username and password to gain access.

ALSO, it appears that Swann provides an application you can install on
a remote computer which can access the NVR using port 9000.


This should be more than enough to get you started.

This is an excellent guide and exactly how we set our system up.

Additionally, I might add that we use an Android app from Zmodo to
look at our 10 camera setup on our phones and the D9 viewer on our
laptops when we travel.
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Old July 2nd 14, 02:26 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
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Thanks again, I've now got it working in IE, Chrome tells me "Can't load
NPclient" and Firefox seems to stall on loading NPclient.
Router setup pages different from that manual, probably model variation, but
got there in the end!
One final question, IE asks to install IEClient to display DVR remotely,
does this mean that I will be unable to do it from a public computer like
public library PC which blocks installation of plugins etc.?

Kenny

"Charles Lindbergh" wrote in message
...

On Tue, 1 Jul 2014 19:17:35 +0100, wrote:

Kenny, I am going to assume you have some basic knowledge of
networking, routers, etc. If you need more information than I give
you, please ask.

Connect your NVR (network video recorder) to your router. The NVR
should automatically obtain an IP address from the router. You can
determine the NVR IP by logging into the machine interface per the
instruction manual. In addition to the IP address, see if you can
also find the MAC address for the NVR.

Now, log into the router and refer to the instructions on page 119 of
the router manual, The Static DHCP screen. You want to create a new
static lease for the NVR.

Once you have created the a lease for the NVR, go to page 149 - 151 of
the router manual.

You need to create two user defined port forwarding rules. This will
open the communication ports between the NVR and the Internet.

Rule one:

Name: Swann9k

external port 9000 (start and end)

server ip (this is the IP address of the NVR which you determined
earlier)

Protocol (set it to all, although you probably only need TCP)

Open start and end port = 9000

Save it and now create a second rule

Rule two:

Name: Swann85

External port 85 (start and end)

Server ip (IP of your NVR)

Protocol = all

Open Start and end port = 85

Save it.


Now, using a browser from anywhere outside of your network, enter
either your public IP address or the ddns address you setup (per the
swann instruction manual) e.g. kenny.swann.org:85 or
123.123.123.123:85

The above should connect to your NVR where you will have to enter a
username and password to gain access.

ALSO, it appears that Swann provides an application you can install on
a remote computer which can access the NVR using port 9000.


This should be more than enough to get you started.

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Old July 2nd 14, 03:11 PM posted to alt.windows7.general
Charles Lindbergh
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2014 14:26:00 +0100, wrote:

Thanks again, I've now got it working in IE, Chrome tells me "Can't load
NPclient" and Firefox seems to stall on loading NPclient.
Router setup pages different from that manual, probably model variation, but
got there in the end!
One final question, IE asks to install IEClient to display DVR remotely,
does this mean that I will be unable to do it from a public computer like
public library PC which blocks installation of plugins etc.?

Kenny


Kenny, keep in mind I do not use the Swann product myself so I am
basing my input upon what I can find in the manuals.

It would appear Swann has provided "MyDVR" software as the primary way
of interfacing with your NVR. I see they indicate you can access it
with IE, which means they didn't go out of their way to make a very
versatile interface.

You could install an extension in Firefox and I believe Chrome which
allows each browser to impersonate IE in a separate tab.

As for using the system outside of your house on a computer you do not
have installation privileges on, I would say you are greatly
restricted. It is possible you could create a Portableapps USB stick,
with a portable version of Firefox which includes the IE extension. It
might work, but I have no way of trying it. I love portableapps and
it might be worth a go.

Lastly, the most logical way to view the cameras from outside your
house on a computer other than your own would probably be to install
the Swann app on a smartphone and do it that way.

Remember, this is a very low end video surveillance system, it will
not give you the same versatility as Milestone Xprotect Enterprise and
high end Axis, Bosch, Mobotix, Panasonic, Sony or Cannon IP cameras.
 




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