USB Gamepad in DOS?

Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
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Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

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Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

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Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

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Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that =
reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos =
then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if =
they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most =
familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap =
and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this =
software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, =
statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR =
and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue =
while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft =
want people to buy it.

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...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the =
next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone =
when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. =
It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette =
work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS =
technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP =
compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a =
driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
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for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to =
execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little =
yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a =
better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that =
it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it =
with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their =
almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." =
It would
be a waste of
time.
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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any =
takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one =
has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I =
know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in =
message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can =
get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder =
gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that =
reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos =
then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if =
they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most =
familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap =
and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this =
software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, =
statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR =
and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue =
while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft =
want people to buy it.

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http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message =
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the =
next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone =
when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. =
It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette =
work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS =
technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP =
compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a =
driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
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Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department =
for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to =
execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little =
yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a =
better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that =
it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it =
with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their =
almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." =
It would
be a waste of
time.
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...
Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any =
takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one =
has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I =
know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in =
message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can =
get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder =
gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that =
reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos =
then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if =
they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most =
familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap =
and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this =
software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, =
statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR =
and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue =
while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft =
want people to buy it.

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'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message =
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the =
next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone =
when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. =
It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette =
work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS =
technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP =
compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a =
driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
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Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department =
for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to =
execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little =
yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a =
better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that =
it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it =
with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their =
almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." =
It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any =
takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one =
has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I =
know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in =
message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can =
get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder =
gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:37:20 +0100, "Glen" wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen

Wrong on both counts. There are DOS drivers for USB devices and
they're freely available throughout the web.

My external hard drive is "seen" from a DOS prompt with device drivers
loaded and does very nicely backing up both my hard drives.

Also, most modern BIOS' have legacy support for USB devices. Which
means they're "seen" from DOS.

On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:37:20 +0100, "Glen" wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen

Wrong on both counts. There are DOS drivers for USB devices and
they're freely available throughout the web.

My external hard drive is "seen" from a DOS prompt with device drivers
loaded and does very nicely backing up both my hard drives.

Also, most modern BIOS' have legacy support for USB devices. Which
means they're "seen" from DOS.

Glen wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Except for usb mice and usb hard drives.



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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:37:20 +0100, "Glen" wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen

Wrong on both counts. There are DOS drivers for USB devices and
they're freely available throughout the web.

My external hard drive is "seen" from a DOS prompt with device drivers
loaded and does very nicely backing up both my hard drives.

Also, most modern BIOS' have legacy support for USB devices. Which
means they're "seen" from DOS.

Glen wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Except for usb mice and usb hard drives.



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Glen wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Except for usb mice and usb hard drives.



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Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
--

T.C.

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Excuse me DOS has its uses, I work in a technical support department for a
company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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"Sapper" wrote in message
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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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Dos won't be removed from Longhorn. There are millions of companies that =
reley on Dos apps known as Line Of Business apps. If longhorn dumps Dos =
then these companies won't buy it as they would have to close down if =
they did.

One example is Market Research software. In the environment I'm most =
familar with it is a Dos/Novell application. The Windows ports are crap =
and are designed for the non programmer user. But a company using this =
software would, if Dos was excluded from Longhorn,
1/ Cease operations
2/ Not buy longhorn
3/ Retrain all programmers, analysts, data collection staff, =
statisticians, coders. Hundreds of people. Most of a MR company (only HR =
and the researchers wouldn't need training). And not collecting revenue =
while doing this. This is why Dos IS included in Longhorn, Microsoft =
want people to buy it.

--=20
----------------------------------------------------------
'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/...392635123.html

"t.cruise" wrote in message =
...
Well you probably won't be able to "talk people down to DOS" with the =
next major version
of Windows, because I suspect that even the DOS emulator will be gone =
when "Longhorn" is
released. My response in no way was meant to be taken personally. =
It's just that your
request was analogous to asking how to make a BetaMax Video Cassette =
work with a DVD
player. USB hardware components/drivers are years ahead of DOS =
technology. It's
difficult enough, if at all possible these days, to get Windows XP =
compatible drivers for
some of the older Windows 98 USB peripherals, and you're asking for a =
driver that will
allow a USB hardware component to work with DOS programs.
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company, I frequently talk users down to DOS so I can get them to =
execute
commands etc instead of saying,"can you double click on the little =
yellow
thing with a clamp on it....no can u double LEFT click."
Trust me this can get so bloody annoying. I'm not saying DOS is a =
better
operating system, just that it is not a totally ****ty OS and that =
it has
no uses

"t.cruise" wrote in message
...
DOS has been dead for years. When was the last time that a major
application was written
for DOS? Even Microsoft, who created DOS, finally abandoned it =
with
Windows XP, only
including a DOS emulator for those who refuse to give up on their =
almost
orphaned DOS
software. It wouldn't be "an opportunity for someone to fill." =
It would
be a waste of
time.
--

T.C.

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Well that seems to open an opportunity for someone to fill, any =
takers?
Not being funny or anything, but it does seem odd that no one =
has done
it
yet.
I assume that includes DOSBOX? Which I am about ot try.

"Glen" wrote in message
...
There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I =
know.
Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen


"Sapper" wrote in =
message
...
O.K. I have some old programs, ROTT being one, which I can =
get to
work
in
a
DOPS environment, but cannot get my basic MS Sindwinder =
gamepad to
work
in
any DOS set up.

Any ideas would be great. TIA. Colin D.








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On Tue, 20 Jul 2004 22:37:20 +0100, "Glen" wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Glen

Wrong on both counts. There are DOS drivers for USB devices and
they're freely available throughout the web.

My external hard drive is "seen" from a DOS prompt with device drivers
loaded and does very nicely backing up both my hard drives.

Also, most modern BIOS' have legacy support for USB devices. Which
means they're "seen" from DOS.

Glen wrote:

There aren't any drivers for usb devices in DOS as far as I know. Therefore
no USB device can work in DOS.

Except for usb mice and usb hard drives.



--
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