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Old May 10th 10, 07:42 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc
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Default XP machines not acting the same


Alright, I have tried everything on the net to get my networked "worked"
out...
Anyway, Here is my problem:
I have a home network with 3 machines- 2 XP machines and 1 Win 7.
I swapped out an older XP machine with a new WIN 7 machine.
After changing everything under the sun(sometimes not waiting long
enough I think to let setting take effect) to get them all to
communicate.
PC#1) XPMike ETHERNET
2) WIN7 KIM WIRELESS
3) XPsunflower WIRELESS
99% of the time PC 1 and 2 see each other and share all folders.
MOST of the time PC #1 & 3 do also.
MOST of the time #2 and 3 do not. RIght now PC #2 can see and acces
shared folders on #3. #3 Doesn't see #2 at all or the shared folders.
I finally got frustrated and downloaded Network Magic to see if it
would help me get this sorted out to no avail.It follows along with the
same access that Windows shows with the machine
software(accessability-wise).
Oddly PC #1 & 2 see each other and share no matter what options I
change.I have tried Advance file share on the XP's also and still didn't
change anything(after disabling simple share) and re enabling simple
share.Right now Simple share is actually turned off the XP machines.
I have made exceptions in the firewalls on both.I tried the network set
up Wizard with a USB flash and countless other things that have not
worked.
I am finally now asking for help to get the home office buttoned up and
reduce issues in the future...
I also have attached some info below and can provide anything else
needed to get me through this.
Now, Please accept my thanks in advance!
WORKGROUP (“WORK” NO HOME GROUP)
Discovery etc is all on w\o passwords etc



3) “sunflower” (XP Pro SP3 Machine) Dell
192.168.1.102
255.255.255.0
MAC Address: xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx
Simple file sharing enabled
54Mbps
DYNEX G Desktop card #3 Packet scheduler miniport
WORKGROUP (WORK)
Discovery etc is all on w\o passwords etc
Firewalled w\ exceptions
#3 Scan info below also:

Internet Service
Default Outlook Express Mail POP3 / POP3 FAILED


Default Outlook Express News Not Configured
Internet Explorer Web Proxy Not Configured
Computer Information
Computer System
TOWER


Operating System
Microsoft Windows XP Professional


Version
5.1.2600


Modems and Network Adapters
Modems

Network Adapters
[00000000] Dynex G Desktop Card FAILED
Caption = [00000000] Dynex G Desktop Card
DatabasePath = %SystemRoot%\System32\drivers\etc
DefaultIPGateway = 192.168.1.1(Same Subnet) (PASSED)
Description = Dynex G Desktop Card #3 - Packet Scheduler Miniport
DHCPEnabled = TRUE
DHCPLeaseExpires = 9:32:06 AM 5/11/2010
DHCPLeaseObtained = 9:32:06 AM 5/10/2010
DHCPServer = 192.168.1.1 (PASSED)
DNSDomain = cmts.eph.ptd.net
DNSEnabledForWINSResolution = FALSE
DNSHostName = TOWER
DNSServerSearchOrder (FAILED)
216.144.187.199 (FAILED)
207.44.96.129 (FAILED)
216.144.187.71 (FAILED)
192.168.1.1 (PASSED)
DomainDNSRegistrationEnabled = FALSE
FullDNSRegistrationEnabled = TRUE
GatewayCostMetric = 25
Index = 0
IPAddress = 192.168.1.102 (PASSED)
IPConnectionMetric = 25
IPEnabled = TRUE
IPFilterSecurityEnabled = FALSE
IPSecPermitIPProtocols = 0
IPSecPermitTCPPorts = 0
IPSecPermitUDPPorts = 0
IPSubnet = 255.255.255.0
IPXAddress = 00000000:002275196678
IPXEnabled = TRUE
IPXFrameType = 255
IPXVirtualNetNumber = 2735D185
MACAddress = 00:22:75:19:66:78
ServiceName = BCM43XX
SettingID = {F244EC61-ECCE-4BD3-957D-D9C9432C6083}
TcpipNetbiosOptions = 0
WINSEnableLMHostsLookup = TRUE


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Old May 10th 10, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_2_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


Also,
2 PC's are connected to a LinkSys WRT 600N Router on the same Channel
(except the ethernet machine).
THe Router is connected to a Cable Modem.
Thanks again...I hope!


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Old May 10th 10, 07:53 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_2_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


Also,
2 PC's are connected to a LinkSys WRT 600N Router on the same Channel
(except the ethernet machine).
THe Router is connected to a Cable Modem.
Thanks again...I hope!


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Old May 12th 10, 08:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
John Wunderlich
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Default XP machines not acting the same

damageinc wrote in
:


Alright, I have tried everything on the net to get my networked
"worked" out...
Anyway, Here is my problem:
I have a home network with 3 machines- 2 XP machines and 1 Win 7.
I swapped out an older XP machine with a new WIN 7 machine.
After changing everything under the sun(sometimes not waiting long
enough I think to let setting take effect) to get them all to
communicate.

[...]
IPXEnabled = TRUE
IPXFrameType = 255
IPXVirtualNetNumber = 2735D185



I see you have IPX protocol enabled. You might have your Microsoft
networking bound to both NetBT (TCP/IP) and IPX and the machines could
get confused as to which interface to use.

If you don't need IPX protocol, then disable/uninstall it.

If you do need it, try un-binding it from the File and Printer Sharing
services...
Double-click Network Connections Control panel - Advanced (Menu) -
Advanced Settings(Dropdown) - Click on your "Local Area Connection" in
top window then in bottom window make sure only TCP/IP is checked under
the File and Printer Settings (maybe for Client for Microsoft Networks
as well).

HTH,
John
  #5  
Old May 12th 10, 08:50 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
John Wunderlich
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Default XP machines not acting the same

damageinc wrote in
:


Alright, I have tried everything on the net to get my networked
"worked" out...
Anyway, Here is my problem:
I have a home network with 3 machines- 2 XP machines and 1 Win 7.
I swapped out an older XP machine with a new WIN 7 machine.
After changing everything under the sun(sometimes not waiting long
enough I think to let setting take effect) to get them all to
communicate.

[...]
IPXEnabled = TRUE
IPXFrameType = 255
IPXVirtualNetNumber = 2735D185



I see you have IPX protocol enabled. You might have your Microsoft
networking bound to both NetBT (TCP/IP) and IPX and the machines could
get confused as to which interface to use.

If you don't need IPX protocol, then disable/uninstall it.

If you do need it, try un-binding it from the File and Printer Sharing
services...
Double-click Network Connections Control panel - Advanced (Menu) -
Advanced Settings(Dropdown) - Click on your "Local Area Connection" in
top window then in bottom window make sure only TCP/IP is checked under
the File and Printer Settings (maybe for Client for Microsoft Networks
as well).

HTH,
John
  #6  
Old May 20th 10, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_3_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


I disabled IPX. No luck. Now after a few days, I haven't made any
changes and the scenario is:
THe Win 7 Machine doesn't see either XP machine even though it can ping
them both.
One of the XP machines sees the Win 7 Machine but can't access it at
all.
The other XP machine( the one that runs with the better connectivity)
can open Windo7 7 shares on cmd but cannot see the Win 7 Machine in
WorkGroup.
Both XP machines share and see each other
THis is Unreal. I have tried the LLLTD hot fix and everything else
under the sun- NO LUCK! HELP!
My wife has a work from home office and I just got laid off so I
thought I would work on making her computing more efficient with printer
and file sharing but this is a disaster.I have spent over 100hrs on
this.
Oh, I also disable IPV6 again- No luck.
And....I connected all 3 machines to the router by ethernet to rule out
any wireless issues...still no help.
AAARRGGHHH!
And 1 more thing- I dont get this at all...THe Win 7 Machine can't
access itself in the network- access is denied! WTH?
John Wunderlich;1211309 Wrote:
damageinc wrote in
:


IPXEnabled = TRUE

IPXFrameType = 255
IPXVirtualNetNumber = 2735D185



I see you have IPX protocol enabled. You might have your Microsoft
networking bound to both NetBT (TCP/IP) and IPX and the machines could

get confused as to which interface to use.

If you don't need IPX protocol, then disable/uninstall it.

If you do need it, try un-binding it from the File and Printer Sharing

services...
Double-click Network Connections Control panel - Advanced (Menu) -

Advanced Settings(Dropdown) - Click on your "Local Area Connection" in

top window then in bottom window make sure only TCP/IP is checked under

the File and Printer Settings (maybe for Client for Microsoft Networks

as well).

HTH,
John



  #7  
Old May 20th 10, 09:46 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_3_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


I disabled IPX. No luck. Now after a few days, I haven't made any
changes and the scenario is:
THe Win 7 Machine doesn't see either XP machine even though it can ping
them both.
One of the XP machines sees the Win 7 Machine but can't access it at
all.
The other XP machine( the one that runs with the better connectivity)
can open Windo7 7 shares on cmd but cannot see the Win 7 Machine in
WorkGroup.
Both XP machines share and see each other
THis is Unreal. I have tried the LLLTD hot fix and everything else
under the sun- NO LUCK! HELP!
My wife has a work from home office and I just got laid off so I
thought I would work on making her computing more efficient with printer
and file sharing but this is a disaster.I have spent over 100hrs on
this.
Oh, I also disable IPV6 again- No luck.
And....I connected all 3 machines to the router by ethernet to rule out
any wireless issues...still no help.
AAARRGGHHH!
And 1 more thing- I dont get this at all...THe Win 7 Machine can't
access itself in the network- access is denied! WTH?
John Wunderlich;1211309 Wrote:
damageinc wrote in
:


IPXEnabled = TRUE

IPXFrameType = 255
IPXVirtualNetNumber = 2735D185



I see you have IPX protocol enabled. You might have your Microsoft
networking bound to both NetBT (TCP/IP) and IPX and the machines could

get confused as to which interface to use.

If you don't need IPX protocol, then disable/uninstall it.

If you do need it, try un-binding it from the File and Printer Sharing

services...
Double-click Network Connections Control panel - Advanced (Menu) -

Advanced Settings(Dropdown) - Click on your "Local Area Connection" in

top window then in bottom window make sure only TCP/IP is checked under

the File and Printer Settings (maybe for Client for Microsoft Networks

as well).

HTH,
John



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Old May 20th 10, 09:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_4_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


....and all 3 machines have windows firewall disabled
All 3 have free avast antivirus and are running windows defender.


  #9  
Old May 20th 10, 09:54 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_4_]
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....and all 3 machines have windows firewall disabled
All 3 have free avast antivirus and are running windows defender.


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Old May 21st 10, 02:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_5_]
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Lots of views, little help...
Anyway, I have been able( by changing the "node" on the xp machines to
enable both of them now to share whatever I want.They can also access
the folders that I have been able to share on Win 7.
Again, all machines are on ethernet now...
Anyway, this is turning into a blog on my stressful inability to
completely share xp and win 7 machines...
I have searched everywhere for a fix, no luck...
The xp machines have simple file share off,firewall disabled.THe Win 7
machine has IPV6 disabled...all file sharing and discovery turned out
w\o password .
Strange thing is that Win 7 machine can ping the 2 xps but cannot see
them in network.Oddly they show up on network map.
WHen I click on the Win7 computer on the win 7 machine, it says access
denied?
Also- even more strange, the Win 7 machine cannot share Public
folders.It has an E: drive (CDRW) that can be accessed by the xp
machines. WHen I go into share( Everyone is listed on the folders I
opened, the Win 7 machine tells me that "This folder can't be shared. I
know that Win 7 shares Public if you turn on discovery and file
sharing.What eh heck? Anyone on this forum have an idea? Seems like I am
90% there and something simple is holding me back.Even more strange is
that I was able to access anything I wanted before on the Win 7 machine
with one of the Xp's before consistantly.
This shouldnt be this difficult...
Any ideas are appreciated or maybe this isn't the right forum to ask?


  #11  
Old May 21st 10, 02:32 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
damageinc[_5_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


Lots of views, little help...
Anyway, I have been able( by changing the "node" on the xp machines to
enable both of them now to share whatever I want.They can also access
the folders that I have been able to share on Win 7.
Again, all machines are on ethernet now...
Anyway, this is turning into a blog on my stressful inability to
completely share xp and win 7 machines...
I have searched everywhere for a fix, no luck...
The xp machines have simple file share off,firewall disabled.THe Win 7
machine has IPV6 disabled...all file sharing and discovery turned out
w\o password .
Strange thing is that Win 7 machine can ping the 2 xps but cannot see
them in network.Oddly they show up on network map.
WHen I click on the Win7 computer on the win 7 machine, it says access
denied?
Also- even more strange, the Win 7 machine cannot share Public
folders.It has an E: drive (CDRW) that can be accessed by the xp
machines. WHen I go into share( Everyone is listed on the folders I
opened, the Win 7 machine tells me that "This folder can't be shared. I
know that Win 7 shares Public if you turn on discovery and file
sharing.What eh heck? Anyone on this forum have an idea? Seems like I am
90% there and something simple is holding me back.Even more strange is
that I was able to access anything I wanted before on the Win 7 machine
with one of the Xp's before consistantly.
This shouldnt be this difficult...
Any ideas are appreciated or maybe this isn't the right forum to ask?


  #12  
Old May 21st 10, 08:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
John Wunderlich
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Default XP machines not acting the same

damageinc wrote in
:

I disabled IPX. No luck. Now after a few days, I haven't made any
changes and the scenario is:
THe Win 7 Machine doesn't see either XP machine even though it can
ping them both.
One of the XP machines sees the Win 7 Machine but can't access it
at all.
The other XP machine( the one that runs with the better
connectivity) can open Windo7 7 shares on cmd but cannot see the
Win 7 Machine in WorkGroup.
Both XP machines share and see each other
THis is Unreal. I have tried the LLLTD hot fix and everything else
under the sun- NO LUCK! HELP!
My wife has a work from home office and I just got laid off so I
thought I would work on making her computing more efficient with
printer and file sharing but this is a disaster.I have spent over
100hrs on this.
Oh, I also disable IPV6 again- No luck.
And....I connected all 3 machines to the router by ethernet to
rule out any wireless issues...still no help.
AAARRGGHHH!
And 1 more thing- I dont get this at all...THe Win 7 Machine can't
access itself in the network- access is denied! WTH?


Being that the two XP machines communicate just fine, I would guess
that the problem seems to point to the Win 7 machine. I have no
experience with Win 7. There have been no Win 7 newsgroups formed.

You might want to look for answers in the Microsoft Windows 7 Forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

-- John
  #13  
Old May 21st 10, 08:39 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
John Wunderlich
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Posts: 1,466
Default XP machines not acting the same

damageinc wrote in
:

I disabled IPX. No luck. Now after a few days, I haven't made any
changes and the scenario is:
THe Win 7 Machine doesn't see either XP machine even though it can
ping them both.
One of the XP machines sees the Win 7 Machine but can't access it
at all.
The other XP machine( the one that runs with the better
connectivity) can open Windo7 7 shares on cmd but cannot see the
Win 7 Machine in WorkGroup.
Both XP machines share and see each other
THis is Unreal. I have tried the LLLTD hot fix and everything else
under the sun- NO LUCK! HELP!
My wife has a work from home office and I just got laid off so I
thought I would work on making her computing more efficient with
printer and file sharing but this is a disaster.I have spent over
100hrs on this.
Oh, I also disable IPV6 again- No luck.
And....I connected all 3 machines to the router by ethernet to
rule out any wireless issues...still no help.
AAARRGGHHH!
And 1 more thing- I dont get this at all...THe Win 7 Machine can't
access itself in the network- access is denied! WTH?


Being that the two XP machines communicate just fine, I would guess
that the problem seems to point to the Win 7 machine. I have no
experience with Win 7. There have been no Win 7 newsgroups formed.

You might want to look for answers in the Microsoft Windows 7 Forums:
http://social.answers.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/windows7

-- John
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Old May 21st 10, 09:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
richardmuendes[_2_]
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The solution is pretty simple really, but I advise that you use this as
a last resort:

Either upgrade the two XP devices to Vista or W7, or downgrade W7 to
XP.


  #15  
Old May 21st 10, 09:41 PM posted to microsoft.public.windowsxp.network_web
richardmuendes[_2_]
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Default XP machines not acting the same


The solution is pretty simple really, but I advise that you use this as
a last resort:

Either upgrade the two XP devices to Vista or W7, or downgrade W7 to
XP.


 




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