A Windows XP help forum. PCbanter

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Home » PCbanter forum » Microsoft Windows XP » General XP issues or comments
Site Map Home Register Authors List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Web Partners

(OT for some:) backup scheme that restores without user input?



 
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old July 6th 13, 02:58 PM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,291
Default (OT for some:) backup scheme that restores without user input?

(Achtung: cross-posted. So that I'm not accused of doing it underhand.)

All you backup enthusiasts:

I'm looking for a backup mechanism which backs up the C: partition of a
Windows XP system to an external (USB-connected) drive, which also
offers to make a bootable CD, which when inserted, restores the
backed-up partition WITHOUT ANY USER INTERACTION - or, with only a few
keystrokes which can be memorised _and don't change or depend on what's
on the screen_.

This is on behalf of my blind friends, who use XP with speech and
Braille output - which doesn't work if they've screwed up the OS
somehow. So what they need is a way of restoring to a working system
that involves nothing more than putting in a CD and cycling the power.
(They could leave the BIOS set to boot from CD first - yes they are
aware of the potential malware aspects of doing that.)

Other things that would be nice, but not important (except the first
one):

Free or cheap

looks after the backup disc in a way that deletes the oldest backup when
there's not enough space to do a new backup

can be set to do a backup and then turn the computer off
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If it's pretentious, then at least it's not the sort that wears a horned helmet
and shrieks about trolls. - Stuart Maconie in Radio Times, 14-20 November 2009.
  #2  
Old July 6th 13, 05:51 PM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
SixStringStu
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default (OT for some:) backup scheme that restores without user input?


"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
(Achtung: cross-posted. So that I'm not accused of doing it underhand.)

All you backup enthusiasts:

I'm looking for a backup mechanism which backs up the C: partition of a
Windows XP system to an external (USB-connected) drive, which also offers
to make a bootable CD, which when inserted, restores the backed-up
partition WITHOUT ANY USER INTERACTION - or, with only a few keystrokes
which can be memorised _and don't change or depend on what's on the
screen_.

This is on behalf of my blind friends, who use XP with speech and Braille
output - which doesn't work if they've screwed up the OS somehow. So what
they need is a way of restoring to a working system that involves nothing
more than putting in a CD and cycling the power. (They could leave the
BIOS set to boot from CD first - yes they are aware of the potential
malware aspects of doing that.)

Other things that would be nice, but not important (except the first one):

Free or cheap

looks after the backup disc in a way that deletes the oldest backup when
there's not enough space to do a new backup


My first thought was space. A C drive image is often times larger then what
would fit on a USB thumb drive. I am not up on what all is available on the
market, so that opinion is seriously dated.


can be set to do a backup and then turn the computer off


I have a friend who is big into Linux. He reports to me that he owns a
laptop that has a dead hard drive. He somehow has the ability to boot either
from the CD or USB, not sure which direction, then load the other device.
That's not a restore such as you are looking for, but it's close.
Aside from the previously mentioned size limitation question I'm thinking
there should be a solution like what you are looking for. Good luck finding
this and please report back on what you discover.
Also, remind folks that XP will no longer have update service after April of
next year.

--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

If it's pretentious, then at least it's not the sort that wears a horned
helmet
and shrieks about trolls. - Stuart Maconie in Radio Times, 14-20 November
2009.



  #3  
Old July 7th 13, 09:29 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Derek Turner
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5
Default (OT for some:) backup scheme that restores without user input?

On Sat, 06 Jul 2013 12:51:11 -0400, SixStringStu wrote:

My first thought was space. A C drive image is often times larger then
what would fit on a USB thumb drive. I am not up on what all is
available on the market, so that opinion is seriously dated.


I think the OP meant that a bootable thumb drive would contain or invoke
the rescue system: the data is there on the external drive. There is
almost certainly a way of doing this with linux but whether it's
available off the shelf or not I know not. (And I don't mean that the
whole computer needs to run linux, just the thumb-drive.)
  #4  
Old July 7th 13, 08:22 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
J. P. Gilliver (John)
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 5,291
Default (OT for some:) backup scheme that restores without user input?

In message , SixStringStu
writes:

"J. P. Gilliver (John)" wrote in message
...
(Achtung: cross-posted. So that I'm not accused of doing it

underhand.)

All you backup enthusiasts:

I'm looking for a backup mechanism which backs up the C: partition of

a
Windows XP system to an external (USB-connected) drive, which also

offers
to make a bootable CD, which when inserted, restores the backed-up
partition WITHOUT ANY USER INTERACTION - or, with only a few

keystrokes
which can be memorised _and don't change or depend on what's on the
screen_.

This is on behalf of my blind friends, who use XP with speech and

Braille
output - which doesn't work if they've screwed up the OS somehow. So

what
they need is a way of restoring to a working system that involves

nothing
more than putting in a CD and cycling the power. (They could leave

the
BIOS set to boot from CD first - yes they are aware of the potential
malware aspects of doing that.)

Other things that would be nice, but not important (except the first

one):

Free or cheap

looks after the backup disc in a way that deletes the oldest backup

when
there's not enough space to do a new backup


My first thought was space. A C drive image is often times larger then

what
would fit on a USB thumb drive. I am not up on what all is available on

the
market, so that opinion is seriously dated.

I/we weren't thinking of a USB thumb drive, but a USB spinning drive.
You can get these at about 12 or 13 GB to the pound sterling for the
ones in the 250 and 320 GB sizes. I wouldn't use a thumb (flash) drive
for backup anyway, as I find they tend to die suddenly.

can be set to do a backup and then turn the computer off


I have a friend who is big into Linux. He reports to me that he owns a
laptop that has a dead hard drive. He somehow has the ability to boot

either
from the CD or USB, not sure which direction, then load the other

device.

Almost certainly loading the USB. Even a USB drive isn't a good idea for
use as main memory, but a CD-RW would wear out in no time (not to
mention would be painfully slow).

That's not a restore such as you are looking for, but it's close.


Not very. That sounds like a system where you always want it to boot up
to the same state, which is not really the same thing as a backup.

Aside from the previously mentioned size limitation question I'm

thinking
there should be a solution like what you are looking for. Good luck

finding
this and please report back on what you discover.


Will do.

Also, remind folks that XP will no longer have update service after

April of
next year.

Won't suddenly stop working though.
[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

All that glitters has a high refractive index.
  #5  
Old July 12th 13, 12:52 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Carol M Lucifer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)

"SixStringStu" wrote in
:

I have a friend who is big into Linux. He reports to me that he owns a
laptop that has a dead hard drive. He somehow has the ability to boot
either from the CD or USB, not sure which direction, then load the
other device. That's not a restore such as you are looking for, but
it's close. Aside from the previously mentioned size limitation
question I'm thinking there should be a solution like what you are
looking for. Good luck finding this and please report back on what you
discover. Also, remind folks that XP will no longer have update
service after April of next year.




James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu) is the criminal, pathological
liar, self-proclaimed sociopath and life-long societal parasite who
instigated and perpetuated the flame war that turned the newsgroup
alt.social-security-disability into the spam pit that it is today.

James Stuart Hodges has a long record of violent criminal behavior and
several felony arrests. One of those arrests got him locked up in a loony
bin. Also, one of the women who he impregnated had her unborn child
murdered because she didn't want to spend the best years of her life
raising the illegitimate offspring of a criminal freak.


James Stuart Hodges
577 SW Dexter Cir, Apt 201
1442 SW Haygood Loop, Apt 101
Lake City, FL 32025
(386) 438-8968
Local PD: (386) 752-4344

From: "6StringStu"
Newsgroups: alt.social-security-disability
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 01:02:30 -0500
" Of the three felonies on my record,
1: Violation of the Mann act (federal kidnapping...)....
2nd Felony arrest Homicide........
3rd felony arrest assault with intent........
Lots of misdomeanors..... fighting hand to hand stuff......"

From: "SixStringStu"
Newsgroups:
alt.social-security-disability,alt.comp.blind-
users,free.UseNet,free.spam,free.spirit
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:39:02 -0400
"My criminal record consists of one count of driving under the influance
of
alchohol...."

From: "6StringStu"
Newsgroups: alt.social-security-disability
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 01:02:30 -0500
"I used to own quite a few firearms. When I awoke from my coma they had
been "liquidated". Nowadys I have......a 357mag revolver
(I'd hate to drop a shell casing when doing that close up action.
A 30-06 with a good scope that I can hit a fist sized target at 500
yards..."

From: "SixStringStu"
Newsgroups: alt.social-security-disability
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:53 -0400
"Of the five guys that jummped me, three are rotting corpses, one is
walking around with a pronounced limp and no orbs in their sockets and
one ****es his pants everytime a car backfires. "









  #6  
Old July 12th 13, 08:44 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Brian Gaff
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 16
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)



Ever thought of going into writing TV scripts, your talent is indeed rare
and should be nurtured, though your slight tendency toward peopling your
fantasies with libelous comments about real people might need some work.
Brian--

From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active


  #7  
Old July 12th 13, 09:07 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Mike Ruddock
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 1
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)



"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...


Ever thought of going into writing TV scripts, your talent is indeed rare
and should be nurtured, though your slight tendency toward peopling your
fantasies with libelous comments about real people might need some work.
Brian--

From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active



???

whoosh

other indications of incomprehension ad lib.


Mike Ruddock


  #8  
Old July 12th 13, 05:53 PM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Brian Gaff
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 16
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)

Yes, well, he posts whether we respond or not. Must be strange having your
own personal troll which follows you about the internet.
Anyway back to normal chat now.
Brian

--
From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active
"Mike Ruddock" wrote in message
...


"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
...


Ever thought of going into writing TV scripts, your talent is indeed rare
and should be nurtured, though your slight tendency toward peopling your
fantasies with libelous comments about real people might need some work.
Brian--

From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active



???

whoosh

other indications of incomprehension ad lib.


Mike Ruddock




  #9  
Old July 13th 13, 11:37 PM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Carol M Lucifer
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 2
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)

"Brian Gaff" wrote in
:



Ever thought of going into writing TV scripts,


Have you ever thought of developing a sense of morality, or do you just
mindlessly side with criminals, pathological liars, self-proclaimed
sociopaths and the morally depraved?

your talent is indeed rare and should be nurtured, though your slight
tendency toward
peopling your fantasies with libelous comments about real people might
need some work.


Truth is an absolute defense against allegations of libel.

  #10  
Old July 14th 13, 12:06 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Peter Percival
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 22
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)

Follow-up set.

Carol M Lucifer wrote:
"Brian Gaff" wrote in
:



Ever thought of going into writing TV scripts,


Have you ever thought of developing a sense of morality, or do you just
mindlessly side with criminals, pathological liars, self-proclaimed
sociopaths and the morally depraved?


I think everyone is deserving of the moral support of others from time
to time. If I were a criminal in the dock I would certainly want a
barrister on my side. Similarly in the other cases.

--
I think I am an Elephant,
Behind another Elephant
Behind /another/ Elephant who isn't really there....
A.A. Milne
  #11  
Old July 15th 13, 12:17 AM posted to uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general,free.usenet,free.spirit
John Doe
external usenet poster
 
Posts: 716
Default Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)

This is off topic, do not read.

--
nym-shifting psychopath
changed the subject line
Carol M Lucifer CML net-nanny.com wrote:

Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!usenet.blueworldhosting.com!feeder02 .blueworldhosting.com!npeer01.iad.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!post02.iad.highwinds-media.com!fx15.iad.POSTED!not-for-mail
Newsgroups: uk.media.radio.archers,alt.comp.blind-users,microsoft.public.windowsxp.general
Subject: Meet James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu)
From: Carol M Lucifer CML net-nanny.com
References: Qmj0krUqJC2RFwPt soft255.demon.co.uk kr9hjg$4kt$1 dont-email.me
User-Agent: Xnews/5.04.25
Lines: 77
Message-ID: 4zHDt.69912$hK5.53471 fx15.iad
X-Complaints-To: abuse teranews.com
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:52:32 UTC
Organization: TeraNews.com
Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2013 23:52:32 GMT
X-Received-Bytes: 3573
Xref: news.eternal-september.org uk.media.radio.archers:140243 alt.comp.blind-users:2021 microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:109335

"SixStringStu" SixStringStu NoReply.com wrote in
news:kr9hjg$4kt$1 dont-email.me:

I have a friend who is big into Linux. He reports to me that he owns a
laptop that has a dead hard drive. He somehow has the ability to boot
either from the CD or USB, not sure which direction, then load the
other device. That's not a restore such as you are looking for, but
it's close. Aside from the previously mentioned size limitation
question I'm thinking there should be a solution like what you are
looking for. Good luck finding this and please report back on what you
discover. Also, remind folks that XP will no longer have update
service after April of next year.




James Stuart Hodges (aka SixStringStu) is the criminal, pathological
liar, self-proclaimed sociopath and life-long societal parasite who
instigated and perpetuated the flame war that turned the newsgroup
alt.social-security-disability into the spam pit that it is today.

James Stuart Hodges has a long record of violent criminal behavior and
several felony arrests. One of those arrests got him locked up in a loony
bin. Also, one of the women who he impregnated had her unborn child
murdered because she didn't want to spend the best years of her life
raising the illegitimate offspring of a criminal freak.


James Stuart Hodges
577 SW Dexter Cir, Apt 201
1442 SW Haygood Loop, Apt 101
Lake City, FL 32025
(386) 438-8968
Local PD: (386) 752-4344

From: "6StringStu" hawki... nccray.net
Newsgroups: alt.social-security-disability
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 01:02:30 -0500
" Of the three felonies on my record,
1: Violation of the Mann act (federal kidnapping...)....
2nd Felony arrest Homicide........
3rd felony arrest assault with intent........
Lots of misdomeanors..... fighting hand to hand stuff......"

From: "SixStringStu" hawkinnc... hotmail.com
Newsgroups:
alt.social-security-disability,alt.comp.blind-
users,free.UseNet,free.spam,free.spirit
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2012 21:39:02 -0400
"My criminal record consists of one count of driving under the influance
of
alchohol...."

From: "6StringStu" hawki... nccray.net
Newsgroups: alt.social-security-disability
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 01:02:30 -0500
"I used to own quite a few firearms. When I awoke from my coma they had
been "liquidated". Nowadys I have......a 357mag revolver
(I'd hate to drop a shell casing when doing that close up action.
A 30-06 with a good scope that I can hit a fist sized target at 500
yards..."

From: "SixStringStu" hawkinnc45 hotmailREMOVE.com
Newsgroups: alt.social-security-disability
Date: Fri, 19 Aug 2011 08:49:53 -0400
"Of the five guys that jummped me, three are rotting corpses, one is
walking around with a pronounced limp and no orbs in their sockets and
one ****es his pants everytime a car backfires. "












 




Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off






All times are GMT +1. The time now is 12:29 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2004-2024 PCbanter.
The comments are property of their posters.