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  #61  
Old August 12th 18, 08:29 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 17:32:29 +0100, 😉 Good Guy 😉
wrote:

On 12/08/2018 16:27, dave61430 wrote:
My apologies,



Apologies accepted. In future don't you ever lie to us by saying you
don't read my posts. All the signs suggests that you are eagerly waking
up in the morning to read my posts because they contain very important
and workable solutions for your personal & psychological problems.


Snipping for the purpose of trolling.
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  #62  
Old August 12th 18, 08:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Sun, 12 Aug 2018 02:05:20 +0100, 😉 Good Guy 😉
wrote:

On 11/08/2018 15:18, dave61430 wrote:

For both of you folks:

2). Good Guy is a useless troll whose sole purpose is to hurl insults
and
doesn't know how to post without including a bunch of HTML stuff just to
annoy people.


How can you know this if you don't read any of my posts? Even if you
are reading them, then why are you reading them is you are allergic to
HTML and you are insulted by good advice given by me - Good Guy? Are
you that stupid?


It's not the html that ****es me off, it's the unnecessary use of pretty
colours. Use html if you wish, so you can insert diagrams or use bold
characters etc where needed.
  #63  
Old August 16th 18, 07:48 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On 06/08/2018 20:01, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 13:47:09 +0100, nospam wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a
software
problem.

nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.

try a different keyboard and see if the problem goes away. if it does,
you know it's the original keyboard.

Bull****.Â* Utter bull****.Â* The F ALWAYS works entering my Windows
password.Â* Once logged in and the screen unlocked, I can NEVER use the
lower case F in ANY application.Â* Something which runs only when
actually
at the desktop is stopping that key.


the only way to be sure is by swapping keyboards and see where the
problem follows. it's part of any standard troubleshooting steps and
easy to do.


It's clear already that something stops it working only in certain
circumstances.Â* A hardware fault would stop me entering my password.


You haven't said if the letter 'f' in your password is capital or lower
case? If it is a capital F, then it is clear why you are able to log in.
If it is an 'f', then you have an 'EFF'ing mystery.
  #64  
Old August 16th 18, 08:01 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 19:48:46 +0100, occam wrote:

On 06/08/2018 20:01, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Mon, 06 Aug 2018 13:47:09 +0100, nospam
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a
software
problem.

nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.

try a different keyboard and see if the problem goes away. if it
does,
you know it's the original keyboard.

Bull****. Utter bull****. The F ALWAYS works entering my Windows
password. Once logged in and the screen unlocked, I can NEVER use the
lower case F in ANY application. Something which runs only when
actually
at the desktop is stopping that key.

the only way to be sure is by swapping keyboards and see where the
problem follows. it's part of any standard troubleshooting steps and
easy to do.


It's clear already that something stops it working only in certain
circumstances. A hardware fault would stop me entering my password.


You haven't said if the letter 'f' in your password is capital or lower
case? If it is a capital F, then it is clear why you are able to log in.
If it is an 'f', then you have an 'EFF'ing mystery.


It is lower case.

And the problem has now gone away permanently for no reason.
  #65  
Old August 16th 18, 10:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:08:13 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:55:29 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 08/09/2018 01:59 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:55:31 +0100, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 08/09/2018 08:31 AM, dave61430 wrote:

[snip]

I'm posting this after having read the responses so far. If you
want to
eliminate a possible windows problem, make yourself a live linux
media,
Mint 19 is good, and test the problem on that system.
If all is ok, just install it and live happily ever after.

Yes. That's a really good idea.
Just for one key....

Not for the key, for problem diagnosis.

I have no other problems, well not computer-related anyway.

Of course, there's the other benefit. He could decide he likes Linux.

I would never decide that.


Why don't you experiment with "osk.exe" ?

This picture shows a copy of Notepad with the
focus, and OSK.exe is typing into it.

https://s33.postimg.cc/3ncdzmhbj/OSK.gif

Clicking "Shift" arms it for one key press
and then the state should be cleared.
So "Shift" "f" types an F. There is a caps lock too.


The f key failed again so I tried OSK. That also could not do a lower
case f.
  #66  
Old August 16th 18, 10:19 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
😉 Good Guy 😉
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On 16/08/2018 20:01, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


And the problem has now gone away permanently for no reason.


Perhaps there wasn't any problem in the first place; It was just your
stupidity to troll these newsgroups. Mind you we have a thief in
Windows 7 newsgroup by the name of WhetherMan who is going around
pirating Microsoft software but he is so stupid that he, himself can't
use any of them. What good is any software for that idiot!!!!!!!! He
is still using XP and he is complaining about Office 2016 because he
can't install it!!!!!!!!!! Now what do you say to that idiot?




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  #67  
Old August 16th 18, 10:30 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:08:13 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:55:29 +0100, Mark Lloyd wrote:

On 08/09/2018 01:59 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:55:31 +0100, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 08/09/2018 08:31 AM, dave61430 wrote:

[snip]

I'm posting this after having read the responses so far. If you
want to
eliminate a possible windows problem, make yourself a live linux
media,
Mint 19 is good, and test the problem on that system.
If all is ok, just install it and live happily ever after.

Yes. That's a really good idea.
Just for one key....

Not for the key, for problem diagnosis.
I have no other problems, well not computer-related anyway.

Of course, there's the other benefit. He could decide he likes Linux.
I would never decide that.


Why don't you experiment with "osk.exe" ?

This picture shows a copy of Notepad with the
focus, and OSK.exe is typing into it.

https://s33.postimg.cc/3ncdzmhbj/OSK.gif

Clicking "Shift" arms it for one key press
and then the state should be cleared.
So "Shift" "f" types an F. There is a caps lock too.


The f key failed again so I tried OSK. That also could not do a lower
case f.


So it's some kind of mapping problem and
not a keyboard hardware problem.

Paul
  #68  
Old August 16th 18, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:19:23 +0100, 😉 Good Guy 😉
wrote:

On 16/08/2018 20:01, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:


And the problem has now gone away permanently for no reason.


Perhaps there wasn't any problem in the first place; It was just your
stupidity to troll these newsgroups. Mind you we have a thief in
Windows 7 newsgroup by the name of WhetherMan who is going around
pirating Microsoft software but he is so stupid that he, himself can't
use any of them. What good is any software for that idiot!!!!!!!! He
is still using XP and he is complaining about Office 2016 because he
can't install it!!!!!!!!!! Now what do you say to that idiot?


Everybody pirates software, get over it.
  #69  
Old August 16th 18, 11:51 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:30:43 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Fri, 10 Aug 2018 01:08:13 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 22:55:29 +0100, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 08/09/2018 01:59 PM, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Thu, 09 Aug 2018 18:55:31 +0100, Mark Lloyd
wrote:

On 08/09/2018 08:31 AM, dave61430 wrote:

[snip]

I'm posting this after having read the responses so far. If you
want to
eliminate a possible windows problem, make yourself a live linux
media,
Mint 19 is good, and test the problem on that system.
If all is ok, just install it and live happily ever after.

Yes. That's a really good idea.
Just for one key....

Not for the key, for problem diagnosis.
I have no other problems, well not computer-related anyway.

Of course, there's the other benefit. He could decide he likes Linux.
I would never decide that.

Why don't you experiment with "osk.exe" ?

This picture shows a copy of Notepad with the
focus, and OSK.exe is typing into it.

https://s33.postimg.cc/3ncdzmhbj/OSK.gif

Clicking "Shift" arms it for one key press
and then the state should be cleared.
So "Shift" "f" types an F. There is a caps lock too.

The f key failed again so I tried OSK. That also could not do a lower
case f.


So it's some kind of mapping problem and
not a keyboard hardware problem.


Indeed, but intermittent.
  #70  
Old August 19th 18, 08:40 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windows password?!

On Sun, 5 Aug 2018 21:51:01 +0100, ? Good Guy ?
wrote:

On 05/08/2018 20:52, Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
My windows password (aFter locking the machine, or when starting up)
contains the letter F. This works Fine. I can also type it in here,
or in any program iF it's a capital F. But the lower case F is not
Functional, even though it's ok in the password. What on earth is
going on?


Go and buy a new keyboard - easy to solve any problems like the one you
are describing.

Hey Mr Knife, why don't you use a knife and remove the key to see if the
connection is blocked by dirt from your dirty hands. You really need
to wash your hands regularly especially after going to toilet. or when
using a computer with Windows 10!!!!!!!!!!!!


That's ucked!
  #71  
Old August 21st 18, 04:01 AM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windows password?!

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:47:45 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a software
problem.


nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.


nope. it's almost certainly laky software.

eITHER way it's ucked up.
  #72  
Old August 21st 18, 05:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 04:01:38 +0100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:47:45 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a software
problem.


nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.


nope. it's almost certainly laky software.

eITHER way it's ucked up.


The computer was bought from a shop run by Pakis. Need I say more?
  #73  
Old August 21st 18, 06:58 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 04:01:38 +0100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:47:45 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a software
problem.

nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.


nope. it's almost certainly laky software.

eITHER way it's ucked up.


The computer was bought from a shop run by Pakis. Need I say more?


Did your keyboard look like this ?

https://previews.123rf.com/images/le...d-in-green.jpg

The letter F and J have a raised dimple so
you can feel the "home row" without looking down.

Paul
  #74  
Old August 21st 18, 07:07 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Jimmy Wilkinson Knife[_2_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 18:58:20 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 04:01:38 +0100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:47:45 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a
software
problem.

nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.

nope. it's almost certainly laky software.

eITHER way it's ucked up.

The computer was bought from a shop run by Pakis. Need I say more?


Did your keyboard look like this ?

https://previews.123rf.com/images/le...d-in-green.jpg

The letter F and J have a raised dimple so
you can feel the "home row" without looking down.


The keyboard didn't come with the computer, it was one I already had.

And what was your point?
  #75  
Old August 21st 18, 08:38 PM posted to alt.comp.os.windows-10
Paul[_32_]
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Default F key doesn't work in windows, but I can use it in my Windowspassword?!

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 18:58:20 +0100, Paul wrote:

Jimmy Wilkinson Knife wrote:
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 04:01:38 +0100, Lucifer Morningstar
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2018 18:47:45 -0400, nospam
wrote:

In article , Jimmy Wilkinson
Knife wrote:


If the keyboard works sometimes and not others, it's clearly a
software
problem.

nope. it's almost certainly flaky hardware.

nope. it's almost certainly laky software.

eITHER way it's ucked up.
The computer was bought from a shop run by Pakis. Need I say more?


Did your keyboard look like this ?

https://previews.123rf.com/images/le...d-in-green.jpg


The letter F and J have a raised dimple so
you can feel the "home row" without looking down.


The keyboard didn't come with the computer, it was one I already had.

And what was your point?


Still waiting to find out what's going on
with your mapper software. Has mapper software
ever been run on the machine ? When you "remove program",
does the mapper software remove the old keyboard map ?

And if you install the mapper software now, what
does it show for the current disposition of the
F key ?

Paul
 




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