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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
How does it work compared to RC2?
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Sorry, but since it isn't a public release, we can't talk about it.
If you're on the tech beta, you can check those newsgroups for discussions. -- Terri Stratton Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC http://thetabletpc.net Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp "root" wrote in message ... How does it work compared to RC2? |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
How does it work compared to RC2?
root: Build 2162 is not for the general public. Use with caution, as it pirated. Build 2149 is the last XP SP2 RC2 for the general public. |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Build 2162 is not pirated and there is no NDA. With that said, all of the
SP2 builds have been basically the same since beta 2 in my opinion. I've not had any serious problems except w/ IIS on an early beta but its fixed. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "terri" wrote in message ... Sorry, but since it isn't a public release, we can't talk about it. If you're on the tech beta, you can check those newsgroups for discussions. -- Terri Stratton Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC http://thetabletpc.net Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp "root" wrote in message ... How does it work compared to RC2? |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
As Terri has already said, Build 2162 is not a public release and was not
made available to the public. Those using it are under NDA and not at liberty to discuss it. If people who are not a part of the technical beta have found it for download it is pirated. Linda A. Epstein Microsoft MVP Tablet PC Editor/Publisher: www.TabletPc2.com "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... Build 2162 is not pirated and there is no NDA. With that said, all of the SP2 builds have been basically the same since beta 2 in my opinion. I've not had any serious problems except w/ IIS on an early beta but its fixed. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "terri" wrote in message ... Sorry, but since it isn't a public release, we can't talk about it. If you're on the tech beta, you can check those newsgroups for discussions. -- Terri Stratton Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC http://thetabletpc.net Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp "root" wrote in message ... How does it work compared to RC2? |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
"Linda A. Epstein ~ MS MVP" wrote in message ... As Terri has already said, Build 2162 is not a public release and was not made available to the public. Those using it are under NDA and not at liberty to discuss it. That's all fine and dandy but another poster suggested otherwise. The fact is that it was widely announced on the web and is widely available for download. So for those availing themselves of 2162 then I'd like to hear from them. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread then please don't. |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
As Terri has already said, Build 2162 is not a public release and was not
made available to the public. Those using it are under NDA and not at liberty to discuss it. If people who are not a part of the technical beta have found it for download it is pirated. Linda A. Epstein Microsoft MVP Tablet PC Editor/Publisher: www.TabletPc2.com "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... Build 2162 is not pirated and there is no NDA. With that said, all of the SP2 builds have been basically the same since beta 2 in my opinion. I've not had any serious problems except w/ IIS on an early beta but its fixed. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "terri" wrote in message ... Sorry, but since it isn't a public release, we can't talk about it. If you're on the tech beta, you can check those newsgroups for discussions. -- Terri Stratton Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC http://thetabletpc.net Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp "root" wrote in message ... How does it work compared to RC2? |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
"Linda A. Epstein ~ MS MVP" wrote in message ... As Terri has already said, Build 2162 is not a public release and was not made available to the public. Those using it are under NDA and not at liberty to discuss it. That's all fine and dandy but another poster suggested otherwise. The fact is that it was widely announced on the web and is widely available for download. So for those availing themselves of 2162 then I'd like to hear from them. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread then please don't. |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed
including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... If you were on the technical beta, Josh, then you would know and be active in the appropriate private, technical newsgroups. If you're on the public preview version, that is public knowledge and you can talk about what you have in the public preview newsgroups. As for Longhorn, that has been released to the public via PDC and WinHEC, as well as available for download to MSDN subscribers, but is alpha form only. When it reaches beta stage, those participating in the technical beta will do so with NDAs wrapped into the participation. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... I don't know about the rest of you but I am on the beta and I didn't sign any non-disclosure agreements to get there. I'm not allowed to benchmark it or redistribute it, but I'm not prohibited from talking about it. It has never been the policy of this newsgroup to muzzle talk about unreleased software. I don't see what y'all think the big deal is. We've been talking about Lonestar for months. That's not released or supported. None of the SP2 builds are. Public or not. Getting on the beta was as easy as sending an email. This isn't some top secret project that we're not at liberty to discuss. Geez. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... These are Microsoft's newsgroups, supporting released products from Microsoft. Anything else is unsupported. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Woody" wrote in message ... So you must be refering to Terri and yourself. For the rest of us "we"s, fill your boots. Woody "Mike Kolitz" wrote in message ... "We" would refer to those who are legally obligated not to talk about it due to a non-disclosure agreement. Those not bound by an NDA are welcome to talk about whatever they want. -- Mike Kolitz MCSE 2000 MS-MVP - Windows Setup / Deployment "Woody" wrote in message ... Since this is a public group, "we" can talk about anything "we" want. And who do you mean by "we"? Woody "terri" wrote in message ... Sorry, but since it isn't a public release, we can't talk about it. If you're on the tech beta, you can check those newsgroups for discussions. -- Terri Stratton Microsoft Windows MVP / Tablet PC http://thetabletpc.net Expert Zone - http://microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/default.asp "root" wrote in message ... How does it work compared to RC2? |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Josh, what has been available to the public is the preview edition. What is
going on within the technical beta IS covered by NDA/EULA and may not be discussed outside the technical beta newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... 1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Okay well you can stop saying NDA cause there's no NDA. And like I said
before, the EULA only prevents you from disclosing features not made public by Microsoft. Since there are no undisclosed features in the POST RC2 build, we're free to talk about it. That's the bottom line. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... Josh, what has been available to the public is the preview edition. What is going on within the technical beta IS covered by NDA/EULA and may not be discussed outside the technical beta newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... 1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Xref: newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:1193897 microsoft.public.windowsxp.setup_deployment:132407
Agreed, the Tablet PC Edition 2005 superset is included in Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2, which available to the public. There are proper public preview newsgroups for those discussions. Discussion beyond RC2 is still prohibited, which is why I'm attempting to tell you any post RC2 discussions are not valid here. Post RC2 builds are not available to the public as part of the preview program, and if a user has post RC2 builds they are (1) a technical beta tester with access to the proper technical beta newsgroups for discussion, or (2) a thief. In the case of #1 above, the proper channels are available and should be used. In the case of #2, they know what they can do with the build they're running. The Tablet PC Edition 2005 superset is not yet a released product, and therefore only "supported" in the proper beta/preview newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... Okay well you can stop saying NDA cause there's no NDA. And like I said before, the EULA only prevents you from disclosing features not made public by Microsoft. Since there are no undisclosed features in the POST RC2 build, we're free to talk about it. That's the bottom line. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... Josh, what has been available to the public is the preview edition. What is going on within the technical beta IS covered by NDA/EULA and may not be discussed outside the technical beta newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... 1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Alright fine since we can't agree.. how's this. You don't have to post in
this thread and those of us who want to talk about it will since there are no undisclosed features that we'd be disclosing outside of the provisions of the EULA. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... Agreed, the Tablet PC Edition 2005 superset is included in Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2, which available to the public. There are proper public preview newsgroups for those discussions. Discussion beyond RC2 is still prohibited, which is why I'm attempting to tell you any post RC2 discussions are not valid here. Post RC2 builds are not available to the public as part of the preview program, and if a user has post RC2 builds they are (1) a technical beta tester with access to the proper technical beta newsgroups for discussion, or (2) a thief. In the case of #1 above, the proper channels are available and should be used. In the case of #2, they know what they can do with the build they're running. The Tablet PC Edition 2005 superset is not yet a released product, and therefore only "supported" in the proper beta/preview newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... Okay well you can stop saying NDA cause there's no NDA. And like I said before, the EULA only prevents you from disclosing features not made public by Microsoft. Since there are no undisclosed features in the POST RC2 build, we're free to talk about it. That's the bottom line. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... Josh, what has been available to the public is the preview edition. What is going on within the technical beta IS covered by NDA/EULA and may not be discussed outside the technical beta newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... 1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies |
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The proper area for public discussions of RC2 and the Tablet PC Edition 2005
are defined he http://www.microsoft.com/technet/pro...p2preview.mspx See the link under Newsgroups on the right side. It is an unreleased, unsupported product at this point, but once Microsoft provides the release and everyone upgrades with XP SP2 and Tablet PC Edition 2005, we will support it here. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... Alright fine since we can't agree.. how's this. You don't have to post in this thread and those of us who want to talk about it will since there are no undisclosed features that we'd be disclosing outside of the provisions of the EULA. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... Agreed, the Tablet PC Edition 2005 superset is included in Windows XP Service Pack 2, Release Candidate 2, which available to the public. There are proper public preview newsgroups for those discussions. Discussion beyond RC2 is still prohibited, which is why I'm attempting to tell you any post RC2 discussions are not valid here. Post RC2 builds are not available to the public as part of the preview program, and if a user has post RC2 builds they are (1) a technical beta tester with access to the proper technical beta newsgroups for discussion, or (2) a thief. In the case of #1 above, the proper channels are available and should be used. In the case of #2, they know what they can do with the build they're running. The Tablet PC Edition 2005 superset is not yet a released product, and therefore only "supported" in the proper beta/preview newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... Okay well you can stop saying NDA cause there's no NDA. And like I said before, the EULA only prevents you from disclosing features not made public by Microsoft. Since there are no undisclosed features in the POST RC2 build, we're free to talk about it. That's the bottom line. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies -------------------------------------------------------- Add ink input to Outlook with Tablet Enhancements for Outlook! Only $19.99! http://www.einsteinware.com "Chris H." wrote in message ... Josh, what has been available to the public is the preview edition. What is going on within the technical beta IS covered by NDA/EULA and may not be discussed outside the technical beta newsgroups. -- Chris H. Microsoft Windows MVP/Tablet PC Tablet Creations - http://nicecreations.us/ Associate Expert Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... 1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies |
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Anyone tried XP SP2 post RC2 build 2162 ??
Josh;
"I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it" Which is it? They are two different programs with two different purposes. If you have no NDA, you are not part of the Beta. The Technical Preview currently has offered RC 1 & RC 2 of SP 2. That does not make you a Beta tester. You and your organization may consider you a Beta tester but that would be strictly internal to you. To use the two different terms here as if they are synonymous when they are not does nothing but add to the confusion. Since you seem to lack the knowledge of the difference it seems you are on the Technical Preview as all Beta testers would clearly know and distinguish the difference. To clarify, exactly how did you become involved with the Beta/Technical Preview and to what extent? -- Jupiter Jones [MVP] http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/ "Josh Einstein" wrote in message ... 1) I said Lonestar, not Longhorn. Lonestar was being actively discussed including the new TIP, new SDK, etc in these newsgroups for months. 2) Don't confuse a EULA with a NDA. They are two different things entirely. NDA's are legally binding, EULAs are not. The worst that can happen with a EULA is your software license is terminated. 3) The provision in the EULA for non-disclosure is about new features. Since SP2 was feature complete by the first RC, we are all at liberty to talk about any version. 4) I never said I was not in the beta newsgroups. I simply said I'm not prohibited from talking about it on here. I have been on the beta, technical preview whatever you want to call it since it was first available to those outside Microsoft. I am not talking about the public beta. -- Josh Einstein Einstein Technologies |
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