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December 5th 03, 02:35 PM
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MSN Messenger 6 Final
Greetings,
You can find the non-preview final version of MSN Messenger 6, as well as a brand-new Messenger website available now at: http://messenger.msn.com ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com 
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December 5th 03, 02:35 PM
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MSN Messenger 6 Final
Thanks, Jonathan. Just wondering when Windows Messenger is going to catch up
with MSN Messenger? Any ideas? S. Heff "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings, You can find the non-preview final version of MSN Messenger 6, as well as a brand-new Messenger website available now at: http://messenger.msn.com ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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December 5th 03, 02:36 PM
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"Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ...
Greetings, You can find the non-preview final version of MSN Messenger 6, as well as a brand-new Messenger website available now at: http://messenger.msn.com ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com And it still has the same voice conversation problems from XP users to 98/ME. Bravo ! Despite several complaints.... *eye roll* Oh well, there's always Yahoo.
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December 5th 03, 02:37 PM
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MSN Messenger 6 Final
Hi,
It depends what you mean by "catch up". If you mean in pure version numbers, yes, Windows Messenger 5 will be released soon. However, if you mean a duplication of features, no, because they're separate clients, designed for separate purposes. MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger (and the upcoming 5) is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.). However, both make use of Microsoft .NET technologies, like the .NET Messenger network, .NET Passport, .NET Alerts, and TabletPC "digital ink" support. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Heff" wrote in message ... Thanks, Jonathan. Just wondering when Windows Messenger is going to catch up with MSN Messenger? Any ideas? S. Heff "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings, You can find the non-preview final version of MSN Messenger 6, as well as a brand-new Messenger website available now at: http://messenger.msn.com ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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December 5th 03, 02:39 PM
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MSN Messenger 6 Final
When installing MSN Messenger 6.0 on WinXP, it says to exit out of all other
versions of Messenger. When attempting to exit out of Windows Messenger 4.7 (the only version I have installed), it says that it can't exit--due to other applications (Outlook, Outlook Express, IE, etc.) still using it. For home users, MSN Messenger seems like the client of choice; Windows Messenger seems like it is becoming the business client of choice. That being said, when will WinXP "lose" its reliance on Windows Messenger for features like Remote Assistance? Conversely, when will MSN Messenger "gain" the WinXP features like Remote Assistance? Or is it likely that more advanced home users (those wanting Remote Assistance, for instance) will continue to want/need both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger on their systems? Chris "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Hi, It depends what you mean by "catch up". If you mean in pure version numbers, yes, Windows Messenger 5 will be released soon. However, if you mean a duplication of features, no, because they're separate clients, designed for separate purposes. MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger (and the upcoming 5) is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.). However, both make use of Microsoft .NET technologies, like the .NET Messenger network, .NET Passport, .NET Alerts, and TabletPC "digital ink" support. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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December 5th 03, 02:39 PM
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Greetings Chris,
Regarding your first problem -- do you have Norton Antivirus 2003 installed? Norton added a new "instant messaging scanning" feature to Norton Antivirus 2003, which can conflict with Messenger and cause this behavior. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'), click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK. The "Remote Assistance" restriction is not a MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger (just the client) problem, it's a Windows problem. When Windows XP was originally released, Windows Messenger was an essential part of these components, and the MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger clients were not separate (Windows Messenger was just the MSN Messenger client that *ran* on Windows XP). I don't believe you'll see this addressed until the next version of Windows -- I certainly don't think the next service pack will change it either. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Chris" wrote in message ... When installing MSN Messenger 6.0 on WinXP, it says to exit out of all other versions of Messenger. When attempting to exit out of Windows Messenger 4.7 (the only version I have installed), it says that it can't exit--due to other applications (Outlook, Outlook Express, IE, etc.) still using it. For home users, MSN Messenger seems like the client of choice; Windows Messenger seems like it is becoming the business client of choice. That being said, when will WinXP "lose" its reliance on Windows Messenger for features like Remote Assistance? Conversely, when will MSN Messenger "gain" the WinXP features like Remote Assistance? Or is it likely that more advanced home users (those wanting Remote Assistance, for instance) will continue to want/need both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger on their systems? Chris "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Hi, It depends what you mean by "catch up". If you mean in pure version numbers, yes, Windows Messenger 5 will be released soon. However, if you mean a duplication of features, no, because they're separate clients, designed for separate purposes. MSN Messenger is centered around MSN technologies (Hotmail, MSN Member Profiles, MSN Mobile, etc.) whereas Windows Messenger (and the upcoming 5) is centered around Windows technologies (Exchange Server, Greenwich/RTC Server, Windows Netmeeting, etc.). However, both make use of Microsoft .NET technologies, like the .NET Messenger network, .NET Passport, .NET Alerts, and TabletPC "digital ink" support. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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December 5th 03, 02:41 PM
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MSN Messenger 6 Final
Thanks for the info. So for the foreseeable future, if you want the cool,
new Messenger interface *and* Remote Assistance, etc. you need to run both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger. That would be good to emphasize somewhere on the MSN Messenger 6.0 page, especially for Windows XP users. "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings Chris, Regarding your first problem -- do you have Norton Antivirus 2003 installed? Norton added a new "instant messaging scanning" feature to Norton Antivirus 2003, which can conflict with Messenger and cause this behavior. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'), click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK. The "Remote Assistance" restriction is not a MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger (just the client) problem, it's a Windows problem. When Windows XP was originally released, Windows Messenger was an essential part of these components, and the MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger clients were not separate (Windows Messenger was just the MSN Messenger client that *ran* on Windows XP). I don't believe you'll see this addressed until the next version of Windows -- I certainly don't think the next service pack will change it either. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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December 5th 03, 02:41 PM
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MSN Messenger 6 Final
Hi Chris,
Well you don't have to "run" both, but you have to have Windows Messenger installed. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com "Chris" wrote in message ... Thanks for the info. So for the foreseeable future, if you want the cool, new Messenger interface *and* Remote Assistance, etc. you need to run both MSN Messenger and Windows Messenger. That would be good to emphasize somewhere on the MSN Messenger 6.0 page, especially for Windows XP users. "Jonathan Kay [MVP]" wrote in message ... Greetings Chris, Regarding your first problem -- do you have Norton Antivirus 2003 installed? Norton added a new "instant messaging scanning" feature to Norton Antivirus 2003, which can conflict with Messenger and cause this behavior. To stop it, open Norton Antivirus (Right-click on the Norton Antivirus icon in the System Tray/Notification Area (by the clock), choose 'Open Norton Antivirus'), click Options, then Instant Messenger then uncheck MSN Instant Messenger and click OK. The "Remote Assistance" restriction is not a MSN Messenger or Windows Messenger (just the client) problem, it's a Windows problem. When Windows XP was originally released, Windows Messenger was an essential part of these components, and the MSN Messenger/Windows Messenger clients were not separate (Windows Messenger was just the MSN Messenger client that *ran* on Windows XP). I don't believe you'll see this addressed until the next version of Windows -- I certainly don't think the next service pack will change it either. ____________________________________________ Jonathan Kay Windows MVP, Messenger Associate Expert http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/ Messenger Resources - http://messenger.jonathankay.com
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