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Window Server 2012 pre-activated copy??
Trying to find an activated copy of Windows Server 2012 for some home testing, very interested in a low powered Windows OS to run some applications on a home network.
Can anyone recommend somewhere to download it? Tried all the usual torrent locations. --------------= Posted using GrabIt =---------------- ------= Binary Usenet downloading made easy =--------- -= Get GrabIt for free from http://www.shemes.com/ =- |
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On 11/20/2012 3:30 PM, lid wrote:
Please suggest a better newsreader, I searched google but almost all of them are geared for downloading TV, Movies, etc. A portable app would also be a bonus. http://portableapps.com/apps/interne...rbird_portable It doesn't say newsreader per se, but it does that too. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - Thunderbird v12 Centrino Core2 Duo T7400 2.16 GHz - 4GB - Windows 8 |
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BillW50 wrote:
On 11/20/2012 3:30 PM, lid wrote: Please suggest a better newsreader, I searched google but almost all of them are geared for downloading TV, Movies, etc. A portable app would also be a bonus. http://portableapps.com/apps/interne...rbird_portable It doesn't say newsreader per se, but it does that too. Thanks Bill. Ill give it a try tomorrow. |
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On 20 Nov 2012 21:30:26 GMT, wrote:
[snip] Please suggest a better newsreader, I searched google but almost all of them are geared for downloading TV, Movies, etc. A portable app would also be a bonus. Forte Agent. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko |
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On 20/11/2012 22:29, Gene Wirchenko wrote:
On 20 Nov 2012 21:30:26 GMT, wrote: [snip] Please suggest a better newsreader, I searched google but almost all of them are geared for downloading TV, Movies, etc. A portable app would also be a bonus. Forte Agent. Sincerely, Gene Wirchenko Thanks Gene. I'm currently using the Thunderbird portable and it's just what I was after. I've installed it on my portable USB 3.0 drive so I can keep up to date on whichever device I am using. Thanks, Pete |
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"address_is" wrote:
/*Pete* (original poster)/ Path:...!border5.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail From: "Pete" (GrabIt doesn't add a header to identify itself as the NNTP client) /*address_is* (a respondent)/ Path: ...!news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb. com!not-for-mail User-Agent: NewsTap/3.5.5 (iPad) From: Pete used GrabIt but address_is used NewsTap. Doesn't NewsTap let its users configure their nym (the name shown in the From header)? Even when using multiple newsreader, use the same nym so others see the same identity. Despite arguments that nymshifting has good purposes, that's not really how it gets prevalently employed. http://mobile.clauss-net.de/NewsTap/index.php I couldn't find much there in the way of documentation so I cannot tell if you can define an identity within the server settings. Looks like the author expects his users to discover how to configure his product. If you can define your identity, make it the same nym you use in all your newsreaders. Please suggest a better newsreader, I searched google but almost all of them are geared for downloading TV, Movies, etc. A portable app would also be a bonus. If you are very used to using GrabIt, maybe it can be configured to be Usenet polite. Can you configure it to NOT append its spam signature? Can it be configured to physically wrap lines, like at 72-76 characters in length? From what I can see at: http://www.binaries4all.com/grabit/configuration.php that newsreader gives you almost no control over how to format your posts. It's not designed for participation in discussions. It's designed to grab stuff (extract attachments from posts in binary newsgroups). It appears you are stuck being their spam affiliate; that is, when you use this NNTP client to submit a post, they will spamify your post by appending their spam within the body of your post. Some free NNTP providers do this, too, so all posts submitted through them are spam. Use GrabIt as a tool to retrieve binaries from newsgroups. Use something else to discuss anything in newsgroups. There are many free newsreaders available suitable for participating in discussions. While some may suggest Forte Agent, it's last freeware version is really old and, as I recall, required a workaround for handling multiple servers. It is normally a payware product. If you're going to get a Forte Inc product, I strongly suggest you consider paying for their latest version. While I use 40tude Dialog, it didn't pass my first 3 trials of checking what newsreader would replace Outlook Express. It omitted a couple of features that I required, like showing Watched threads and preferrably putting them at the top of the articles listing pane. It was only after I decided to dig into using scripts to modify events and handlers inside of Dialog that it became my top choice for a newsreader - but only because there existed a library of scripts that I use as-is or lightly modify for my own use. As such, I wouldn't recommend 40tude Dialog unless its behaviors are just what you want since altering them means adding scripts (like how add-ons can alter a web browser's or e-mail client's behaviors). It does, however, have some very nice features that aren't found in other newsreaders. For example, my filters will flag as Ignored posts by unwanted posters (trolls, malcontents, Google Groupers, from known spam servers, etc); however, I also don't want to see any replies to those posts as I'm not interested in seeing noise generated from other noise that I'm filtering out. Dialog has an option to include the subthread under a flagged post. So when the filter fires to flag a post, all replies to it are also flagged. Then I changed my default view to "Hide Ignored Messages". I won't see the noise or the replies to that noise. Yet there are times when someone in a non-noise reply mentions something in a noise post that I may want to see. I select the "All Messages" to view what had been filtered. That's why I ignore-flag the noise subthreads instead of deleting them. Some others in which I've had interested (but no longer remember in which order of preference) we Mesnews Xananews SuperGravity While many use and recommend Xnews, I personally don't like the disconnected panes for the MDI (multiple document interface) and prefer a single window (SDI = single document interface) like most other newsreaders employ. Its author really doesn't design it for use by others. He admits that he designs it for how he likes it and then makes it publicly accessible. Other newsreaders (if they are still supported or when they were supported) were geared toward the users. Note that a newsreader doesn't have to be currently supported to still be good. Mine was abandoned many years ago but still works very well. Some were abandoned and then taken up a couple folks in that community of users to continue developing the product. If you yank attachments from posts in binary newsgroups (and then have to recombine them) then GrabIt is good for that. I've used NewsMan Pro in the past but found it slow. Newsbin was much faster. Neither is free (and why you probably chose GrabIt which is free). Those are okay for their intended purpose but rather suck for discussions (threads) in newsgroups. It's like using a blowtorch to light a cigarette or a lighter to solder your copper plumbing. For inquiries on particular behaviors you would like to see in a newsreader, you can ask over in the news.software.readers for help on particular newsreaders. |
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"address_is" wrote:
I simply want to evaluate virtualisation software to see if it would be useful to me, I was unaware of the length 180 day evaluation. I had assumed it would be the standard 30 days. I'm looking into registration for a trial at the minute. But you don't need a server edition of Windows to evaluate VMMs (virtual machine managers), like VirtualPC 2007, VirtualBox, VMWare Player, etc. Those will install on workstation editions of Windows. The server edition allows the user to remove the GUI and other power sucking options which would help maximise my current hardware. Note you never indicated *why* you wanted a server edition of Windows (versus a workstation edition). You also never mentioned virtualization and whether you wanted a VMM that runs atop an OS or a VMM that is an OS itself. Hard to make recommendations based on vaguities. If you don't have the desktop GUI, how are you going to use the VMMs? VirtualPC 2007 is a headed product. That means you have to login under a Windows account and use the desktop to display the windows (console and guest OS) for that VMM. VMWare Server was a headless VMM; that is, you could let its services load on Windows startup (you didn't even have to log into a Windows account in the host OS) and remotely open its console from another host over the network. Alas, VMWare dropped their free Server version and now you have to use their Player product. If you have an independent host on which to play with virtualization, and rather than run a VMM atop of an OS and then load a guest OS inside a virtual machine, maybe you should look at Microsoft Hyper-V Server (free). This OS is a VMM in itself. When you boot the host, you load the VMM. All the guests run inside a virtual machine. As I recall, the Hyper-V OS only gives you the console window (i.e., command shell) and no GUI. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserv...virtualserver/ If I had newer hardware and a spare host, and I wanted to virtualize a bunch of guest hosts, that might be what I'd use. Make all operating systems on that host be virtualized; i.e., load Hyper-V (the VMM) and have multiple guests all virtualized there. While it has a small footprint regarding host resources, it does have minimums that are beyond my current hardware config (my primary host is 6 years old). My old Athlon XP 3200+ CPU doesn't support HAV (hardware assisted virtualization). Of course, I see in Windows Server 2012 that it can also be a Hyper-V setup. Alas, that version doesn't look to be free like the older 2005 Server Hyper-V product. http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/serve...alization.aspx While you can get an evaluation copy of Windows 2012 Server, will you be completely done with your testing or use of a VMM in half a year (180 days)? Or do you want to continue using the VMM after half a year? If I was going to get into using Hyper-V, I'd probably want to use it just long enough to determine if I liked it and, if so, would continue using it for an indefinite period thereafter (and free is nice unless you can afford to pay for the latest version). I haven't checked on what the 2012 trialware version of Hyper-V gives you over the free 2005 version. I did find: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../jj647789.aspx that compares Hyper-V in 2008 versus 2012. If you're just "evaluating" Hyper-V for your personal use (which means you must have the hardware to support Hyper-V) then it seems even the free old 2005 version would suffice. While I know Windows 2005 Server with its Hyper-V is free, I'm not sure about Windows 2008 Server with its Hyper-V. The download page for 2008: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/e.../dd776191.aspx doesn't say it's free but it also doesn't say it's a time-limited trial .... yet that download page is under the "TechNet Evaluation Center" site. Alas, the "Product details" link in that 2008 download page takes the user to a description of the 2012 version. |
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Window Server 2012 pre-activated copy??
I thought this was a Windows 8 group. Hyper-V is part of Windows 8 Pro,
just add it from the windows add-on menu. K |
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Window Server 2012 pre-activated copy??
Trying to avoid having a full OS underneath my VM OS though.
I looked into Hyper-V Server, as suggested by Vanguard, which is free from Microsoft. The only issue is that the management tool (RSAT) for it is only available for W8 which would force me to update at least one machine to W8 On 22/11/2012 15:07, kreed wrote: I thought this was a Windows 8 group. Hyper-V is part of Windows 8 Pro, just add it from the windows add-on menu. K |
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Window Server 2012 pre-activated copy??
Pete laid this down on his screen :
Trying to avoid having a full OS underneath my VM OS though. Unless you have proper server hardware which can use something like VMware ESxi you cant achieve what you want. I looked into Hyper-V Server, as suggested by Vanguard, which is free from Microsoft. The only issue is that the management tool (RSAT) for it is only available for W8 which would force me to update at least one machine to W8 On 22/11/2012 15:07, kreed wrote: I thought this was a Windows 8 group. Hyper-V is part of Windows 8 Pro, just add it from the windows add-on menu. K For best performance, VMware Workstation or Oracles VirtualBox on a Mac or Linux host will make windows OS'es running as guest OS'es faster than if you used a windows OS as a host OS. If you want stuff to be free go with a linux host say ubuntu or Mint (if want a linux distro thats most like a windows os) then install virtualbox, then install your windows OS's that way. |
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