Okay, so who hasn't gotten their invitation to Win 10 upgrade yet?

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 05:30:22 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Thanks. I ask that question a lot. So many people upgrade for no good
reason other than it's the newest version. At least you have a good
reason.

But having the newest version is so much FUN!

--
//Steve//

Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 05:30:22 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Thanks. I ask that question a lot. So many people upgrade for no good
reason other than it's the newest version. At least you have a good
reason.

But having the newest version is so much FUN!

So, it's just a new toy to play with? ;-) Throw that NEW & IMPROVED
sign on anything, and you're hooked. Ah! The contemporary consumer, a
slave to marketing hyperbole. Where has reason and common sense gone?

Stef

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 19:32:30 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 05:30:22 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Thanks. I ask that question a lot. So many people upgrade for no good
reason other than it's the newest version. At least you have a good
reason.

But having the newest version is so much FUN!

So, it's just a new toy to play with? ;-) Throw that NEW & IMPROVED
sign on anything, and you're hooked. Ah! The contemporary consumer, a
slave to marketing hyperbole. Where has reason and common sense gone?

Stef, you KNOW I was just kidding, right?

--
//Steve//

On 10/09/2015 12:15 PM, Stef wrote:
Well, if there's one thing I've learned over the years about Microsoft,
such utilities are not foolproof. But try a 10 upgrade on the
laptop. Laptops are more problematical than desktops. Just do a full
clone before to be safe. I don't trust W10's "reversion" capability.
If that goes okay, then do the desktop.


That is what I had originally done, if you reread my original
description in this thread.

Yousuf Khan

Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS] wrote:

On Fri, 11 Sep 2015 19:32:30 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS] wrote:

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 05:30:22 +0000 (UTC), Stef
wrote:

Thanks. I ask that question a lot. So many people upgrade for no good
reason other than it's the newest version. At least you have a good
reason.

But having the newest version is so much FUN!

So, it's just a new toy to play with? ;-) Throw that NEW & IMPROVED
sign on anything, and you're hooked. Ah! The contemporary consumer, a
slave to marketing hyperbole. Where has reason and common sense gone?

Stef, you KNOW I was just kidding, right?

Of course. So was I. Maybe I should have thrown in a few more smilies.
;-)

Stef

Yousuf Khan wrote:

On 10/09/2015 12:15 PM, Stef wrote:
Well, if there's one thing I've learned over the years about Microsoft,
such utilities are not foolproof. But try a 10 upgrade on the
laptop. Laptops are more problematical than desktops. Just do a full
clone before to be safe. I don't trust W10's "reversion" capability.
If that goes okay, then do the desktop.


That is what I had originally done, if you reread my original
description in this thread.

I thought you "reverted" from W10 to 7 instead of cloning, and it
caused problems. Your original post has long since been erased from
this Usenet client's cache. So, I can't reread it. And I'm too lazy to
do a search.

As for me, I'll never be upgrading to 10, or 7, or 8, or 8.1. XP still
does what I need it to do when I need Windows.

Stef

On 12/09/2015 11:38 AM, Stef wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

On 10/09/2015 12:15 PM, Stef wrote:
Well, if there's one thing I've learned over the years about Microsoft,
such utilities are not foolproof. But try a 10 upgrade on the
laptop. Laptops are more problematical than desktops. Just do a full
clone before to be safe. I don't trust W10's "reversion" capability.
If that goes okay, then do the desktop.


That is what I had originally done, if you reread my original
description in this thread.

I thought you "reverted" from W10 to 7 instead of cloning, and it
caused problems. Your original post has long since been erased from
this Usenet client's cache. So, I can't reread it. And I'm too lazy to
do a search.

Oh, you're right, I hadn't noticed that you were making a distinction
between reversion and restoring.

And you're right, I'm starting to see all kinds of weird issues after
reverting to Windows 7. They all have to do with leftover files that
were added after Windows 10 was installed, but not removed when Windows
7 was reverted to.

One issue I saw was that Windows 10 installed some tasks into the Task
Scheduler, but didn't remove them after reverting to Windows 7. There
are obviously some improvements that were made to Windows 10's Task
Scheduler, which Windows 7 doesn't understand in the least. So I was
getting "corrupt tasks" messages under Win 7. This was also preventing
some startup programs from starting. It was fixed after I manually
deleted the task scheduler files that were added by Win 10.

Another issue that I've noticed has to do with Firefox, which I don't
know is a fault of Win 10, but it may be a Firefox problem that only
occurs under Win 10, but it remains under Win 7 when you revert. I'll
explain that in greater detail in another thread.

Yousuf Khan

Yousuf Khan wrote:

On 12/09/2015 11:38 AM, Stef wrote:
Yousuf Khan wrote:

On 10/09/2015 12:15 PM, Stef wrote:
Well, if there's one thing I've learned over the years about Microsoft,
such utilities are not foolproof. But try a 10 upgrade on the
laptop. Laptops are more problematical than desktops. Just do a full
clone before to be safe. I don't trust W10's "reversion" capability.
If that goes okay, then do the desktop.


That is what I had originally done, if you reread my original
description in this thread.

I thought you "reverted" from W10 to 7 instead of cloning, and it
caused problems. Your original post has long since been erased from
this Usenet client's cache. So, I can't reread it. And I'm too lazy to
do a search.

Oh, you're right, I hadn't noticed that you were making a distinction
between reversion and restoring.

And you're right, I'm starting to see all kinds of weird issues after
reverting to Windows 7. They all have to do with leftover files that
were added after Windows 10 was installed, but not removed when Windows
7 was reverted to.

One issue I saw was that Windows 10 installed some tasks into the Task
Scheduler, but didn't remove them after reverting to Windows 7. There
are obviously some improvements that were made to Windows 10's Task
Scheduler, which Windows 7 doesn't understand in the least. So I was
getting "corrupt tasks" messages under Win 7. This was also preventing
some startup programs from starting. It was fixed after I manually
deleted the task scheduler files that were added by Win 10.

Windows (regardless of version) has always been lousy with housekeeping
chores, among other things. All kinds of crap that shouldn't be there
is left behind for the user to deal with. Very poor programming. But
that's Microsoft: Do it quick. not right.

Another issue that I've noticed has to do with Firefox, which I don't
know is a fault of Win 10, but it may be a Firefox problem that only
occurs under Win 10, but it remains under Win 7 when you revert. I'll
explain that in greater detail in another thread.

Probably a setting was changed in Firefox by W10 that is not reverted
when going back to W7. Read about this somewhere, but can remember
exactly where or what the fix was.

Stef

On 14/09/2015 8:26 PM, Stef wrote:
Windows (regardless of version) has always been lousy with housekeeping
chores, among other things. All kinds of crap that shouldn't be there
is left behind for the user to deal with. Very poor programming. But
that's Microsoft: Do it quick. not right.

That's completely been the case. You actually get surprised when they
create a perfectly functional little utility that actually works the way
they say it will. Windows Easy Transfer was one of those things that had
a potential of not working so horribly right, but it actually does
exactly as it says.

Probably a setting was changed in Firefox by W10 that is not reverted
when going back to W7. Read about this somewhere, but can remember
exactly where or what the fix was.

It turned out to be some malware called "More Results Hub", which for
some reason kept changing my searches and homepage to Yahoo. It affected
Internet Explorer in Windows 7 and Edge in Windows 10 as well.

Yousuf Khan