Password change every two weeks?

Hello,

I don't use Windows 10 personally yet but my wife does and claims that she
is forced to change her password on all her machines every two weeks. Is
this a requirement or something that can be changed? This is the main
password to get into the system once it is booted.

She has a rather special set up in my mind. Windows 10 requires tying an
email address to the system as an account. She has 5 computers all running
with the same email account, each with a different purpose. Three of the
computers are general use computers that others at her business shares.
The constant requirement to change to a new password annoys them all.

Is there a way to change this behavior? A quick search on Google just led
to password reset issues and not the need to periodically change the
password.

Thank you,

David

David LaRue wrote:
Hello,

I don't use Windows 10 personally yet but my wife does and claims that she
is forced to change her password on all her machines every two weeks. Is
this a requirement or something that can be changed? This is the main
password to get into the system once it is booted.

She has a rather special set up in my mind. Windows 10 requires tying an
email address to the system as an account. She has 5 computers all running
with the same email account, each with a different purpose. Three of the
computers are general use computers that others at her business shares.
The constant requirement to change to a new password annoys them all.

Is there a way to change this behavior? A quick search on Google just led
to password reset issues and not the need to periodically change the
password.

Thank you,

David

If the machines were joined to a domain, a GPO could have been
used to push out a password policy. On my work computers, everything
had a policy like that (password aging, password constructs with
nothing easy to guess and so on), no matter what platform. And I
used to keep PostIt notes in my wallet with all the passwords
printed on them. What a giant PITA. And I wasn't a member of
the "Jan-Feb-Mar" club either, so each password was fabricated
another way and had to be written down. I used to spend maybe
an hour on "password day" at work, and update all the passwords.

My Win10 Insider edition installation, has not pestered me that way.

Typically the time is set to some longer interval. Like maybe
the entire password period is 42 days, and the countdown notification
is a 14 day timer. That means you have 28 days of peace and quiet,
then daily balloon notifications that you need to change the password
in the next 14 days or less. So the password period is not 14 days, but
the remaining interval happens to be 14 days when you first see it.

"BlahBlah"
28 days 14 days
---- 42 days ---

There's got to be some explanation as to how a corporate
policy got put on those machines. That doesn't typically
"happen by accident". If you are using Win10 Pro, you could
try GPEDIT, just to see what password policies are available.
But don't expect to reverse or revise it from there.

And I'm not an IT guy, and have no idea how you disconnect
a machine from a domain. Or even what a domain is...
I have played with GPEDIT on Pro setups, but just
for fun. If you're not on a domain, you can use GPEDIT
to set a policy on your own machine, and that is less
work than figuring out what registry settings are
equivalent to a particular GPEDIT policy.

To give an example, there used to be a simple "backoff" setting
for Search Indexer. It was a single registry entry. Then some
idiot changed it, and made it more complicated. When I last
wanted to crank the priority of Search Indexer up, so it would
finish as quickly as possible, I had to use GPEDIT, because I
couldn't find documentation on the correct registry settings
to use. So that is a reason to use GPEDIT on a non-domain
machine. If you don't have a Pro or higher version of OS,
then there isn't likely to be a copy of GPEDIT on there.
So users of stuff like Win7 Home Premium (my laptop) are
out of luck.

Best guess,
Paul

David LaRue wrote on 09/15/2015 5:54 AM:
Hello,

I don't use Windows 10 personally yet but my wife does and claims that she
is forced to change her password on all her machines every two weeks. Is
this a requirement or something that can be changed? This is the main
password to get into the system once it is booted.

She has a rather special set up in my mind. Windows 10 requires tying an
email address to the system as an account. She has 5 computers all running
with the same email account, each with a different purpose. Three of the
computers are general use computers that others at her business shares.
The constant requirement to change to a new password annoys them all.

Is there a way to change this behavior? A quick search on Google just led
to password reset issues and not the need to periodically change the
password.

Thank you,

David



All devices using Win10 and the same MSFT account need to be 'proofed'
as Trusted devices.

Sounds like she's fighting a variety of security checks for location
validation(devices, different location, ip addresses) which can be seen
as a security concern and a need to validate.

Are you certain its a password prompt and not a verification code prompt.



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience

On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 09:54:52 +0000 (UTC), David LaRue
wrote:

Hello,

I don't use Windows 10 personally yet but my wife does and claims that she
is forced to change her password on all her machines every two weeks. Is
this a requirement or something that can be changed? This is the main
password to get into the system once it is booted.

I've had Windows 10 for longer than that and it's never asked me to
change my password. I probably should, but it's never prompted me to
do so.

--
//Steve//

Paul wrote in :

David LaRue wrote:
Hello,

I don't use Windows 10 personally yet but my wife does and claims
that she is forced to change her password on all her machines every
two weeks. Is this a requirement or something that can be changed?
This is the main password to get into the system once it is booted.

She has a rather special set up in my mind. Windows 10 requires
tying an email address to the system as an account. She has 5
computers all running with the same email account, each with a
different purpose. Three of the computers are general use computers
that others at her business shares. The constant requirement to
change to a new password annoys them all.

Is there a way to change this behavior? A quick search on Google
just led to password reset issues and not the need to periodically
change the password.

Thank you,

David

If the machines were joined to a domain, a GPO could have been
used to push out a password policy. On my work computers, everything
had a policy like that (password aging, password constructs with
nothing easy to guess and so on), no matter what platform. And I
used to keep PostIt notes in my wallet with all the passwords
printed on them. What a giant PITA. And I wasn't a member of
the "Jan-Feb-Mar" club either, so each password was fabricated
another way and had to be written down. I used to spend maybe
an hour on "password day" at work, and update all the passwords.

FWIW they were never on a domain. I agree something seems fishy.

If there is no business domain and if she has administrative
privileges on the computer(s) in question, this article for WINDOWS 7
is basically the same for Windows 10.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/w...d-policy-setti
ngs#1TC=windows-7

If there is a domain, then she really should talk with whomever
administers the domain.


I'll try that.

All devices using Win10 and the same MSFT account need to be 'proofed'
as Trusted devices.

Sounds like she's fighting a variety of security checks for location
validation(devices, different location, ip addresses) which can be
seen as a security concern and a need to validate.

Are you certain its a password prompt and not a verification code
prompt.




I just have her description. I'll have her alert me the next time it
happens. The computers are usually spread across three IPs so this may be
the problem.

David LaRue wrote in
:

All devices using Win10 and the same MSFT account need to be
'proofed' as Trusted devices.

Sounds like she's fighting a variety of security checks for location
validation(devices, different location, ip addresses) which can be
seen as a security concern and a need to validate.

Are you certain its a password prompt and not a verification code
prompt.

Yes, this sounds correct. She admits it isn't a request to change her
password, it is a sudden refusal to accept her password. She eventually
uses some way to change her password and log in.

Evidently MS just doesn't like her situation. She has lots of computers
with the same email address because they are hers. They each have
spacial uses. A couple are road warriors for work. The others are
general use for students and employees.

Thank you,

David

David LaRue wrote:
David LaRue wrote in
:

All devices using Win10 and the same MSFT account need to be
'proofed' as Trusted devices.

Sounds like she's fighting a variety of security checks for location
validation(devices, different location, ip addresses) which can be
seen as a security concern and a need to validate.

Are you certain its a password prompt and not a verification code
prompt.

Yes, this sounds correct. She admits it isn't a request to change her
password, it is a sudden refusal to accept her password. She eventually
uses some way to change her password and log in.

Evidently MS just doesn't like her situation. She has lots of computers
with the same email address because they are hers. They each have
spacial uses. A couple are road warriors for work. The others are
general use for students and employees.

Thank you,

David

Would some of the computers been loaded from a "Family Pack" ?
The Family Pack offer is apparently a single license key
which can be installed on three computers. These are normally
offered for a limited time when an OS is released. As far as I
know, this concept is now discontinued.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/30530-63-pack-amazon

"How many product keys do I get with the Family Pack license?

You will receive only one product key that will activate
up to three PC’s running Windows 7 Home Premium."

Imagine the havoc such a product would cause with respect to
Microsoft's newest "Win10 upgrade strategy" :-) Microsoft would have
to learn to count to three.

Paul

David LaRue posted this via
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David LaRue wrote in
:

All devices using Win10 and the same MSFT account need to be
'proofed' as Trusted devices.

Sounds like she's fighting a variety of security checks for location
validation(devices, different location, ip addresses) which can be
seen as a security concern and a need to validate.

Are you certain its a password prompt and not a verification code
prompt.

Yes, this sounds correct. She admits it isn't a request to change her
password, it is a sudden refusal to accept her password. She eventually
uses some way to change her password and log in.

Evidently MS just doesn't like her situation. She has lots of computers
with the same email address because they are hers. They each have
spacial uses. A couple are road warriors for work. The others are
general use for students and employees.

Thank you,

David

They have required me to change my password on one occassion because
someone or something had sent a kizillion eMails with my account name all
over the world. The mails were not even in my "Sent" or "Delete" folders.

Sometimes, due apparently to an over-zealous algorithm, M$ will require a
user to *VERIFY* their account using a verification code. They prompt the
user with screen displaying selective personal information used in the
initial account sign up routine... [***-***-1234 or ]

It's initially annoying because what if I was trying to access the account
via my cellphone and don't have my other phone nearby? Then I'd have to
have the code eMailed to me, which is a PITA because I can't access my
eMail client because it needs to be logged into in order to access the
eMail accounts I have stocked into it...

At my desktop, I usually use the drop-down menu to select "phone" and they
immediately send me an auto-call to my number-of-record which verbalizes
the needed code to input into the blank field on the screen. I just type
it in as the machine rattles it off... but they do repeat it once, if
you're writing it down with a pencil or pen. Then it goes "OK, bye" and
hangs up. Really. I input the code number they give me and click the
button, and all is well until next time. Perhaps it's a learning
algorithm. I'm so NOT worried about anybody hacking into my eMail accounts
- but I can see how some people might be.

M$ might be better off if they'd give users the option to opt-out of this
level of "security"... or not...

Or then again, it might be a surreptitious way to confirm a user's identity
to make a chain-of-evidence connection to a statement or statements that
the user of that particular device has made so they can forward the
information to the NSA, TSA, FBI or PETA for the reward.

Resistance is futile.

--

I AM Bucky Breeder, (*(^; and,
It's like Yogi Berra always used to say:
"The future ain't what it used to be!"

http://tinyurl.com/ocnqvgq

On 16/09/2015 02:06, Steve Silverwood [KB6OJS] wrote:
On Tue, 15 Sep 2015 09:54:52 +0000 (UTC), David LaRue
wrote:

Hello,

I don't use Windows 10 personally yet but my wife does and claims that she
is forced to change her password on all her machines every two weeks. Is
this a requirement or something that can be changed? This is the main
password to get into the system once it is booted.

I've had Windows 10 for longer than that and it's never asked me to
change my password. I probably should, but it's never prompted me to
do so.



there is the ability in win 10 pro to not have to use the password to
access the homescreen.

Paul wrote on 09/16/2015 6:17 AM:

Would some of the computers been loaded from a "Family Pack" ?
The Family Pack offer is apparently a single license key
which can be installed on three computers. These are normally
offered for a limited time when an OS is released. As far as I
know, this concept is now discontinued.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/30530-63-pack-amazon

"How many product keys do I get with the Family Pack license?

You will receive only one product key that will activate
up to three PC’s running Windows 7 Home Premium."

Imagine the havoc such a product would cause with respect to
Microsoft's newest "Win10 upgrade strategy" :-) Microsoft would have
to learn to count to three.

Paul

Doesn't matter...the common product key is not relevant. The 'device'
and the genuine status of each o/s on each device is.

All Win7 FP devices will upgrade to 10. Once each Win7 o/s is
determined to be genuine after running setup.exe from within the
qualifying o/s, Win10 will upgrade (assuming specs are sufficient) and
activate and then save an entitled license and hardware footprint in the
MSFT Store.



--
...winston
msft mvp windows experience