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BSOD with YouTube Videos
Hi,
When my wife tries to watch a YouTube video, she gets a blue screen. Her computer locks up and the "busy" circle on the YouTube video also stops. Then she gets a blue screen. I have tried Windows drivers, ATI drivers for her video card, and also I uninstalled Flash and reinstalled the latest version. DVDs play fine. She is running XP SP3. This is a new problem. Any ideas? -paulw |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
PW wrote:
Hi, When my wife tries to watch a YouTube video, she gets a blue screen. Her computer locks up and the "busy" circle on the YouTube video also stops. Then she gets a blue screen. I have tried Windows drivers, ATI drivers for her video card, and also I uninstalled Flash and reinstalled the latest version. DVDs play fine. She is running XP SP3. This is a new problem. Any ideas? -paulw Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration ? http://forums.adobe.com/message/2953600?tstart=0 I believe the latest versions of Flash, now use the video card to speed up some functions. Disabling hardware acceleration may stop that. Paul |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:43:28 -0400, Paul wrote:
PW wrote: Hi, When my wife tries to watch a YouTube video, she gets a blue screen. Her computer locks up and the "busy" circle on the YouTube video also stops. Then she gets a blue screen. I have tried Windows drivers, ATI drivers for her video card, and also I uninstalled Flash and reinstalled the latest version. DVDs play fine. She is running XP SP3. This is a new problem. Any ideas? -paulw Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration ? http://forums.adobe.com/message/2953600?tstart=0 I believe the latest versions of Flash, now use the video card to speed up some functions. Disabling hardware acceleration may stop that. Paul Will do, but is that in Flash or Device Manager? I can't remember. It's been a while since I've used XP. Thanks Paul -paul |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:43:28 -0400, Paul wrote:
PW wrote: Hi, When my wife tries to watch a YouTube video, she gets a blue screen. Her computer locks up and the "busy" circle on the YouTube video also stops. Then she gets a blue screen. I have tried Windows drivers, ATI drivers for her video card, and also I uninstalled Flash and reinstalled the latest version. DVDs play fine. She is running XP SP3. This is a new problem. Any ideas? -paulw Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration ? http://forums.adobe.com/message/2953600?tstart=0 I believe the latest versions of Flash, now use the video card to speed up some functions. Disabling hardware acceleration may stop that. Paul Found it! Thanks! I slid it to one notch above off and now my wife can watch a YouTube video! Thanks so much Paul! -paul |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
PW wrote:
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:43:28 -0400, Paul wrote: PW wrote: Hi, When my wife tries to watch a YouTube video, she gets a blue screen. Her computer locks up and the "busy" circle on the YouTube video also stops. Then she gets a blue screen. I have tried Windows drivers, ATI drivers for her video card, and also I uninstalled Flash and reinstalled the latest version. DVDs play fine. She is running XP SP3. This is a new problem. Any ideas? -paulw Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration ? http://forums.adobe.com/message/2953600?tstart=0 I believe the latest versions of Flash, now use the video card to speed up some functions. Disabling hardware acceleration may stop that. Paul Found it! Thanks! I slid it to one notch above off and now my wife can watch a YouTube video! Thanks so much Paul! -paul Well, Windows has a slider for acceleration, and Flash has a tick box in its configuration dialog for hardware acceleration. It sounds like you got relief, by using one of those. My proposal in this case, was to use the Flash tickbox. In the image here, the Flash setting is with hardware acceleration disabled. Right clicking within the movie frame, should bring that up. Flash doesn't have a traditional Control Panel. The dialog is a popup, triggered by right-click. http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5...7836909137.png Paul |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
In ,
Paul wrote: Well, Windows has a slider for acceleration, and Flash has a tick box in its configuration dialog for hardware acceleration. It sounds like you got relief, by using one of those. My proposal in this case, was to use the Flash tickbox. In the image here, the Flash setting is with hardware acceleration disabled. Right clicking within the movie frame, should bring that up. Flash doesn't have a traditional Control Panel. The dialog is a popup, triggered by right-click. http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5...7836909137.png Well Macromedia Flash is one of the most power hungry and bloated players I have ever used in my life! For example it needs three times more CPU than Windows Media Player does. No other player hits the CPU as hard. How it got to where it is today, I have no clue. Many including myself, try to use the oldest Flash version that we can get by with. Can't go too old, because things won't work. Version 8 seems to the be oldest that almost most websites will work fine with. It's up to PW of course, as they might want to stick with the latest version of Flash. But just in case they don't, you can always get an older version from oldversion.com. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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BillW50 wrote:
In , Paul wrote: Well, Windows has a slider for acceleration, and Flash has a tick box in its configuration dialog for hardware acceleration. It sounds like you got relief, by using one of those. My proposal in this case, was to use the Flash tickbox. In the image here, the Flash setting is with hardware acceleration disabled. Right clicking within the movie frame, should bring that up. Flash doesn't have a traditional Control Panel. The dialog is a popup, triggered by right-click. http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5...7836909137.png Well Macromedia Flash is one of the most power hungry and bloated players I have ever used in my life! For example it needs three times more CPU than Windows Media Player does. No other player hits the CPU as hard. How it got to where it is today, I have no clue. Many including myself, try to use the oldest Flash version that we can get by with. Can't go too old, because things won't work. Version 8 seems to the be oldest that almost most websites will work fine with. It's up to PW of course, as they might want to stick with the latest version of Flash. But just in case they don't, you can always get an older version from oldversion.com. One of the modern features of Flash, is how full screen playback is done. An older version of Flash I used, did screen resizing with the CPU. That burned up about 40% of my CPU, when doing movie playback. That would be taking video content which is 640x480 or smaller, and making it big enough to fill the full screen (1280x1024) on my LCD monitor. There is a function in the video card, that will take a pixmap and resize it (interpolate) to fill the screen. When I tried a version of Flash with that feature, the CPU utilization dropped perilously close to zero. It was in the few percent range. So Flash went from being a pig, to being quite lightweight. And that's because the video card has the necessary function to do it. I don't see a reason to go so far back, to turn features like that off. If a technique they're using isn't stable, then disabling hardware acceleration with the tick box, is one option. Moving the slider in Windows itself, implies regular desktop operations aren't stable and turning off acceleration there can return stability, at the price of slower screen updates or stuttering. Paul |
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Paul wrote: BillW50 wrote: In , Paul wrote: Well, Windows has a slider for acceleration, and Flash has a tick box in its configuration dialog for hardware acceleration. It sounds like you got relief, by using one of those. My proposal in this case, was to use the Flash tickbox. In the image here, the Flash setting is with hardware acceleration disabled. Right clicking within the movie frame, should bring that up. Flash doesn't have a traditional Control Panel. The dialog is a popup, triggered by right-click. http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5...7836909137.png Well Macromedia Flash is one of the most power hungry and bloated players I have ever used in my life! For example it needs three times more CPU than Windows Media Player does. No other player hits the CPU as hard. How it got to where it is today, I have no clue. Many including myself, try to use the oldest Flash version that we can get by with. Can't go too old, because things won't work. Version 8 seems to the be oldest that almost most websites will work fine with. It's up to PW of course, as they might want to stick with the latest version of Flash. But just in case they don't, you can always get an older version from oldversion.com. One of the modern features of Flash, is how full screen playback is done. An older version of Flash I used, did screen resizing with the CPU. That burned up about 40% of my CPU, when doing movie playback. That would be taking video content which is 640x480 or smaller, and making it big enough to fill the full screen (1280x1024) on my LCD monitor. There is a function in the video card, that will take a pixmap and resize it (interpolate) to fill the screen. When I tried a version of Flash with that feature, the CPU utilization dropped perilously close to zero. It was in the few percent range. So Flash went from being a pig, to being quite lightweight. And that's because the video card has the necessary function to do it. I don't see a reason to go so far back, to turn features like that off. If a technique they're using isn't stable, then disabling hardware acceleration with the tick box, is one option. Moving the slider in Windows itself, implies regular desktop operations aren't stable and turning off acceleration there can return stability, at the price of slower screen updates or stuttering. Thanks Paul! I am running v10 on this machine, but I have tons of computers and I am sure some of them have a very old version of Flash. I am also running Maxthon 3 for a browser and it has something different for Flash. As it has its own tools to pull the Flash out into another window. And you can make it full screen or save and things. I haven't tested the performance of it yet, but it is interesting. -- Bill Gateway M465e ('06 era) - OE-QuoteFix v1.19.2 Centrino Core Duo 1.83G - 2GB - Windows XP SP3 |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 22:55:54 -0400, Paul wrote:
PW wrote: On Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:43:28 -0400, Paul wrote: PW wrote: Hi, When my wife tries to watch a YouTube video, she gets a blue screen. Her computer locks up and the "busy" circle on the YouTube video also stops. Then she gets a blue screen. I have tried Windows drivers, ATI drivers for her video card, and also I uninstalled Flash and reinstalled the latest version. DVDs play fine. She is running XP SP3. This is a new problem. Any ideas? -paulw Have you tried disabling hardware acceleration ? http://forums.adobe.com/message/2953600?tstart=0 I believe the latest versions of Flash, now use the video card to speed up some functions. Disabling hardware acceleration may stop that. Paul Found it! Thanks! I slid it to one notch above off and now my wife can watch a YouTube video! Thanks so much Paul! -paul Well, Windows has a slider for acceleration, and Flash has a tick box in its configuration dialog for hardware acceleration. It sounds like you got relief, by using one of those. My proposal in this case, was to use the Flash tickbox. Okay - I will see if I can find that in the Flash Player. I don't think I know how to load just the player without starting a Flash Video (and then how to find options for it while a video is playing). -pw In the image here, the Flash setting is with hardware acceleration disabled. Right clicking within the movie frame, should bring that up. Flash doesn't have a traditional Control Panel. The dialog is a popup, triggered by right-click. http://img529.imageshack.us/img529/5...7836909137.png Paul |
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BSOD with YouTube Videos
PW wrote:
Okay - I will see if I can find that in the Flash Player. I don't think I know how to load just the player without starting a Flash Video (and then how to find options for it while a video is playing). -pw You could go to Youtube and right click the first Flash movie pane you see. Then set the tick box there and test. ******* I have another test case I keep on disk here. Adobe bought Macromedia years ago, and Macromedia is where Flash came from. Unpack this, and open fullScreenSourceRectDemo.html file in a Flash enabled browser. This demonstration has an area on the web page you click, to go from windowed to full screen Flash video mode. Which should help exercise any flaky acceleration features. Download is 50MB or so. Most of the download, is the movie content. You press the esc key to go back to windowed mode. http://download.macromedia.com/pub/l...creen_demo.zip Hmmm. On my current motherboard and video card combination, the screen resizing is back to using the CPU :-( I go from 7% CPU to 15% CPU when I make the movie full screen. And Flash is one patch below being current (I have an update to do when I get around to it). So it's looking like the behavior is different, compared to my last system (with ATI card). You can pop up Task Manager while doing the movie playback test, and see how going full screen affects CPU usage. (Right-click the bar at the bottom of the screen, and select "Task Manager" from the pop up menu.) Paul |
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